When JK nailed the under-the-lip reverse who knew
what to call it! He wanted yahtzee, I wanted Club Sandwich. Guess
who won!
Remember back in 2007 when Josh Kerr nailed his
first-ever under-the-lip-grab-rail-reverse in
competition? It was Snapper, his opponent was
Mick Fanning and he… lost.
Kelly Slater got so high on it he called it the best move ever
in a contest. What’s rad is it still gets the spectators’ toes
tapping and judges jabbing fingers in the eight range on their
little scoring tablet.
I recorded this interview shortly after the event and christened
it the Club Sandwich…
BeachGrit: I believe you’ve been calling this turn a
Yahtzee. I much prefer the name The Club Sandwich purely because,
like the sandwich, it has everything stuffed inside it: reversed,
upside-down, rail grabbed…
JOSH KERR: Yeah, mmmmmm, I hear what you’re
saying but I honestly don’t care what you call it – it’s just
a grabbed reverse, really.
I’d wager that’s your modesty speaking.
And, as an aside, no one has ever won a string of world titles by
being modest. You and I both agree that it’s far more than a
grab-rail reverse.
(Warming up) Yeah! It’s sick! It’s an
upside-down-grabbed-reverse, that’s just what I call it. But I’m
feeling The Club Sandwich. Shaun Hazza (Harrington) was
trying them a while back and I was trying to copy him and I started
to get really upside down. It’s the only way I can do those
grab-rail reverses.
Tell me your response to Kelly’s
hyperbole about the turn being the best ever in
competition…
It was heavy. I don’t think The Club
Sandwich – see, now I’m using it – is that crazy a move. A lot
of guys could do it if they tried it. It’s one of those ones that
no one’s tried. But, y’know, it was pretty friggen crazy when I
heard Kelly had said that.
In your quarter-final heat at Snapper,
you needed a nine on your final wave and you didn’t get the score.
Did you feel undervalued given the move’s entertainment
value?
The crazy thing is, if I’d pulled into a little
tube out the back, they would’ve given me the score – if I had
clinged inside a non-critical tube, if I’d just pulled into a bit
of crap out the back, I would’ve scored highly and got through.
Judging should be about the critical turns you do on a wave.
Despite the talk of rewarding critical
surfing, do you therefore believe it’s still the gentleman who
rides the biggest wave for the longest time whilst spasming that
gets the most points?
Yeah, but then they’ll go all crazy. Like in the
first round, Bruce did a big layback snap and they gave him a nine
plus – for one turn and a layback snap. Nine points. That’s good
judging.
Perhaps, and this is just a theory of
mine, no judge wants to be seen rewarding something that might, as
time progresses, turn out to be easy. Like a frontside reverse in
1991, for instance.
Definitely, definitely. I’m sure none of those
dudes have done of those things. Why should they be judging it?
But if we used your unrealistic
standard, as you suggest, current WCT surfing could only be judged
by Andy, Kelly, Joel and a few others.
(Conceding interviewer’s fatal lunge) Yeah,
I know. It’s weird. It’s one of those sporting things. That’s
why skateboarding’s not about contests, it’s about video sections.
And that’s what makes a good skateboarder. Everyone surfs
different; its such an expressionistic sport.
Okay, let’s talk about The Club
Sandwich. I’m about to go surfing, I wanna do one, take me to my
field of dreams…
Well. First of all, I try and fade before I go
up so when I do the bottom turn I’m almost straight up, my board’s
at 12 o’clock. When I hit I try and actually grab my rail just as
I’m transitioning from the bottom turn to the other rail. This is
almost mid face. It’s pretty early, but it’s the best way. You
wanna be looking up at a lip that’s already start to throw out
otherwise you’ll go through it and it’ll be an air. Start the
actual turn early, mid-face, and as soon as your board hits the lip
you really rip it around. Put your other hand in the face of the
wave and put all your pressure on the front foot and throw your
board and body upside down and throw the fins back toward the
beach. It happens really quickly. Because you’ve got so much
momentum, your board swings around really quickly from the fins
grabbing. Sometimes I do that and my body keeps spinning and I fall
off because my board wants to go straight but my body doesn’t.
You’ve gotta stay low because you’re hitting a lip that’s gonna
barrel. I mean, expect a barrelling lip on the back as you come out
of it. Stay low.
That’s one of the better step-by-step
descriptions for a move I’ve heard. Simple yet
instructive.
Aaaaaaaaaaay.