Youth against establishment!
And what times we are living through, what wild times where the fabric of society seems ripping apart all around us, riots lighting up global cities in response to one too many unarmed black men being killed by the police, surfers near the front lines of demanding justice for the traditionally marginalized.
But what?
Surfers?
Though it’s true as the past few days have seen well-attended paddle outs and demonstrations in beach communities not traditionally associated with civil disobedience.
From Maui we read:
Over 300 Maui residents attended a “paddle out” at Laniapoko Beach on Sunday to remember George Floyd, a black man who died while under Minneapolis Police custody.
Makawao resident Jennifer McGurn learned of the floating memorial through word of mouth.
McGurn posted photos and videos of the memorial on Facebook. It’s since been shared over 43,000 times.
“The feeling on the beach that day was incredible and true aloha. From comments I read, I think people just want beauty and light in their lives right now. It’s been a pretty dark time the last few months. First COVID-19, now this,” she said.
Organized by Megan Rodriguez, dozens of surfers met for a Paddle Out for Peace to spotlight the racism and discrimination displayed in and out of the water.
Rodriguez, who is of mixed race, moved to Santa Cruz in 2015 from New York. Coming from the diverse community of New York to witness and feel racial tension in the Santa Cruz waters was a bit shocking, she said.
“Most of the racial comments came from the children,” she shared. “I’d ask them why they said certain things, and they’d say that they heard these things from their parents.
And in Encinitas, some five-thousand met at Moonlight Beach with hundreds paddling out.
In the direct wake of George Floyd’s killing, a well-meaning but very upset friend rage-texted me many times that surfers are awful, horrible, protesting beach closures but staying silent about more serious, heartbreaking, tough issues. Yesterday’s protest and paddle in Encinitas dwarfed those others.
Of course, protesting is only one form of action but there does seem to be an appetite for greater change. A desire to check a broken system that has stretched from the cities to the coast.
The youth agitating against the establishment once again.
I’m referring to when they traveled from Nevada to Oregon as an armed gang and took over the headquarters of a wildlife reserve by force. Taking multiple federal buildings and vehicles and setting up roadblocks denying authorities access and claiming they had liberated the reserve from the federal government.
How different?
They could bike to that protest, didn’t need to buy an airline ticket. Lemme know when they fly in to Hawaii.
Tell me something. Did you feel the same when the Bundi crew did the same thing? Or were they patriots fighting tyranny?
how did the riots in Hawaii pan out on the weekend?
African Americans are policed far more heavily than whites. That’s why the stats reflect they commit more crime. White folk just get away with it more. It’s not just Floyd either. The list of African Americans murderd by cops is way to long.
A bunch out broke ass kids are traveling to hawaii to riot?
I have a wozzel to sell ya.
No body is trying to make you responsible for the plight of the blackman…or our indigenous peoples……..but you do carry guilt from dishing out punishment for a crime you considered hurtful to yourself……I have also more than once dished out justice for being told to “fuck off ya black cunt “…never felt good afterwards ……did a lot of permanent damage to people , when anger rears it’s ugly head very hard to get a win win.
But , when racism is accepted at all in any way , there is hurt, anger then usually violence…….which is why we are trying to use the current circumstances in the USA/World wide to unite people against racism…
So are you/I/we part of the solution to stop racial abuse and actions?
NO BLAME….
glad someone said it…
Got plenty of former friends who grew up to be cops. they’re all white kids from the suburbs who police black neighborhoods. Every single one of them is a racist and every single one of them barely graduated high school.
If you consider facts to be garbage and you’ve heard them “a million times” and refuse to accept them, then it says a lot about yourself. And I am the furthest thing from a racist or a coward.
Your facts are racist lies. That’s why they are garage
Ha! And there it is, the ad hominem. Have a good day sweet tits.
Ahh, now we’re getting to the meat and potatoes…so why then would such a small percentage of the population rack up these types of stats (see below)? It appears they are more likely to commit more crime. There are many reasons for that that could be dissected, lack of a father figures being one of many considered a primary reasons…but be that as it may, my point being, smaller population yes, but much more likely to find themselves interacting with the police in a negative manner…
Homicide
According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites 45.3% and “Other” 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost eight times higher than Whites, and the victim rate six times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of White victims killed by Whites and 93% of African American victims killed by African Americans.[60][61][62]
Robbery
According to the National Crime Victimization Survey in 2002, robberies with white victims and black offenders were more than 12 times more common than vice versa.[72][73]
Youth crime
The “National Youth Gang Survey Analysis” (2011) state that of gang members, 46% are Hispanic/Latino, 35% are black, 11.5% are white, and 7% are other races/ethnicities.[70]
According to the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, in the year 2008 black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58.5% of youth arrests for homicide and 67% for robbery. Black youths were overrepresented in all offense categories except DUI, liquor laws and drunkenness. Racial disparities in arrest have consistently been far less among older population groups.[71]
black community > brazzo surfers
If anybody actually cares about facts, I’ll leave this here. All data is from Washington Post, one of the most liberal papers in America.
https://www.frontpagemag.co…
Unfortunatly the idiots won’t read or accept that
But thanks for trying…
Each and every year, without exception, whites who are shot and killed by police officers in the U.S. far outnumber blacks and Hispanics who meet that same fate. In 2017, for instance, 457 whites, 223 blacks, and 179 Hispanics were killed by police officers in the line of duty. In 2018, the corresponding figures were 399 whites, 209 blacks, and 148 Hispanics. And in 2019, the totals were 370 whites, 235 blacks, and 158 Hispanics. There is not a hint of racism anywhere in these figures.
When we compare black rates of violent crime, with the rate at which blacks are shot and killed by police officers, we find that blacks are represented among those shooting victims at rates significantly lower than we would normally expect. For example, in 2017, blacks were just 23.6% of all people shot dead by police, even though they were arrested for 37.5% of all violent crimes. The following year, blacks were 26.3% of those fatally shot by police, even as they were arrested for fully 37.4% of violent crimes.
According to Heather Mac Donald: “The per capita rate of officers being feloniously killed is 45 times higher than the rate at which unarmed black males are killed by cops. And an officer’s chance of getting killed by a black assailant is 18.5 times higher than the chance of an unarmed black getting killed by a cop
Mate I’ve exposed this to who I thought were semi intelligent on here and they just brush it
But give some computer modelled climate stats
Woah look out!!
Stats be right, so fuken right!!
I hear you. All you can do is try. The Facts are the facts, and they are indisputable.
Not looking to add to this debate, that’s why I’ve waited till the discussion is well over…i learnt from the stats you provided, and don’t dispute them…but just think when you add another indisputable fact; blacks make up 13% of the population, it paints a much different, and more accurate, picture. In Australia white people die in custody about 3 to 4 times the rate of aboriginals…but they make up only 3% of the population. There are also a lot of other stats, around juvenile incarceration, that blow my mind to be honest. Huge complicated problems, that won’t be solved in our lifetime
white people die in custody 3-4 times the rate of aboriginals , huh?
giving up that it can’t be changed means if you are not part of the solution you are the problem..apathy just doesn’t cut it…but ” ignorance is bliss!
Might not have communicated it properly sorry…was trying to say that if you just count numbers, that is pretty accurate. Between 91 and 2005 160 or so blacks were killed compared to 600 whites, but it needs go be put in context of the fact that aboriginals make up only 3% of the population…so on that basis aboriginals die at a massively disproportionate rate
Didn’t mention giving up…but racism has been around since Adam, so I don’t see it being fixed any time soon…but mate all jokes I write on this site aside, I am married to the most beautiful black girl, my kids are all part Maori my son married to a Nigerian, nothing in this world pains me more than racism, but I have a lot to learn, sorry if I offended you
nah ya didn’t offend me , as you manned up , cleared up the stats , and just so ya know I have been racially vilified since I was a kid , so have bit of trigger point especially with all the shit this week , brings back a lot of nasty shit….take care of your family and stay safe1
Cheers mate, you are a legend, and the last person I would wish to offend. As a dumb mzungu I have now experienced racism but only from the perspective of seeing my loved ones on the receiving end. Heartbreaking enough. Genuinely wish you all the very best, take care of yourself, keep fighting
Thanks for the responses and logic to both you and Brutus. I do not begin to know the stats or cultural views in Oz, though I’ve visited. I only reference the U.S, and I ain’t tryin to stir the pot, all I’m sayin is racism is not “systemic” or “pervasive” in our society. Is our society perfect? No. Nothing is, but let’s put this in true perspective. Now, I’m properly spent and on the piss after a 3 hour surf this afternoon. Here’s to endless 3 hours surf’s.
Exactly! And the very facts you present, along with the fact that African Americans are less than 18% of the US population prove racial bias amongst cops.
I just disputed them. They are not facts.
Your stats are presented to to pitch a racist lie. Per capita. Look it up. I know your favorite American wannabe dictator hates this concept as well.
Again, killed in mainly high percentage or majority black cities.
Google is real easy to use, just don’t go to advocate sites
Once again Bex. Per Capita. You cannot escape that fact.
Nor the fact that they black on black make up 60 % of murder
.if quoting stats reflects on myself then god help us all
I’m not trying to dispute that systemic racism leads to poverty and crime. I’m telling you that an African American has a greater chance of being killed in an encounter with the Police than a white person in the USA.
And then?
apply the same formula in Australia , blackfellas have a greater chance of being killed by cops than whites!
You are using false logic to cover for racist cops. You omitted the most important number. African Americans make up less than 18% of the US population. That makes them far more likely to die at the hand of a cop than a white person.
The stats referenced in that article are correct but I think part of the hypothesis is misleading. Using the violent crime / homicides committed rate as the metric compared between races is where it gets blurry. It’s the non violent offenses and how police handle them that should be looked at(See links below). If you would have asked me yesterday, I would have said clear issue with system, however after reading through the studies and articles below, and yours. Fuck me. Now I just think we don’t have enough data and It’s the rhetoric on both sides that’s the problem. We happen to have a guy in the White House who enjoys revving people up, whether it’s to empower his base or blast his opponents. End result is pissed off people talking politics on a surf website. Personally I’m pro 1st amendment so fuck it, you want to protest? cool. You want to shout about Qanon or flat earth or cucks? Cool. And side note. A man in a long list was murdered on tape. Cops or not, black or white. Still wrong.
https://www.pewresearch.org…
https://www.themarshallproj…
https://www.nytimes.com/int…
https://theintercept.com/20…
Respect your opinion and civil discourse.
By killing his comment it made no sense to leave the replies to it.
The Democrats applaud the welfare cause it keeps blacks exactly where Democrats want them. Depedent on Democrats.
whereas the Republicans would just like to wipe out the Blacks!
No. Based upon Trump’s thriving economy that brought the historically lowest unemployment rate of blacks, Republicans would just like to give them jobs.
But you go ahead and keep spewing Liberal conspiracy theories.
Booming economy? You been under a rock for the last few months?
The Wuhan Flu wasn’t Trump’s fault. You got a problem with Trump improving the lives of black people you racist piece of shit?
You use racist terms to describe Covid and then call me a racist shit. Fucking weak sauce. Trump’s disaster response was a disaster. I didn’t say I was stoked Trump has crashed the economy. Try reading the post before you start hurling insults.
You actually think “Wuhan Flu” is a racist term? You’re a bigger fuckwit than I thought. You’re a communist sympathizer. The USA is fucked if we got retards like you coming up through the educational system.
There you go throwing out accusations and insults with fuck all idea of what your talking about. I’m over a half century old, not coming trough the education system. A communist? Because why? I don’t suck your fukwit presidents cock? I fought in a war against communist fucktard.Try some logic and engage in debate instead out hurling baseless insults snowflake. It’s what adults do.
What war? When did you deploy?
You just called me a fukwit, retarded, ignorant and a communist. Now you want to ask me about my service? I’m really not interested in discussing my service with someone who thinks hurling childish insults and leveling unsubstantiated accusations is the way to communicate.
i was part of an invasion and the people we were trying to conquer didn’t like me!!!! I KNOW RACISM!!!!
yeah , and Donald is healer and unites the people behind him, seen any flying pink pigs lately?
It’s gonna be shithouse either way.. Option 1, the Rus panic was a big old lie and there’s blood in the streets based on the lies, or, option 2 mass outbreak of the wheeze and people die with blood in their lungs. Both options suck.
You do know the Jim Crow laws were Democrat led initiatives, right?
And this one where Antifa clowns showed up in Yucaipa to make good on Antifa’s promise to come to the suburbs.
https://youtu.be/5Capv72lhaI
interesting that no-one from Antifa has been arrested , but they arrested 3 ex military in Las Vegas , for inciting violence ..right wing organisation called the B….’s?
Since Antifa has been declared a terrorist organization, do you really think anyone who’s Antifa is going to identify themselves as such?
Here’s another thing, good old fuckwit George Soros, who is proven to contribute money to organizations that fund Antifa in other countries, is up to a little scheme here in the United States. George Soros conributes to the election campaigns of District Attorneys in the US. In fact, nearly every DA he has funded was able through his funding to far outpace their opponents thereby buying more ad space and time on local TV.
The problem is these DA’s that Soros sees to getting elected push his bullshit agenda.
For instance,
“St. Louis police arrested 36 people between Sunday and Tuesday – 25 of whom were arrested during riots that erupted late Monday and into early Tuesday morning during which four police officers were shot. The charges included misdemeanors and felonies for burglaries, property damage, assault, interfering with arrest, stealing and trespassing and unlawful use of a weapon.
So for all that? It looks like most may never be charged. Only two of those 36 arrests received a summons, the remaining 34 the prosecutor either refused to charge or hasn’t decided to charge yet, and given the history of Gardner, people doubt they ever will be charged.
Here’s the kicker:
From the Washington Examiner:
Gardner, who recently kicked off her reelection campaign, was criticized during her initial run for circuit attorney for accepting at least $30,000 from a super PAC belonging to controversial liberal billionaire George Soros. He is well known for supporting candidates, specifically city attorneys, who push liberal bail reform and sentencing platforms.”
– Red State –
It’s sad sad really bad , that the USA’s intelligence services , don’t know who Antifa is or who their members are……duh…..but the fact stands the only group caught during the protest for violence are the rabid right ……WTF has George Soros got to do with racism?
“According to the report, the FBI in Norfolk received information that the courthouse was tagged with a thick black line spray painted on the exterior. That mark “has been used by anarchist/ANTIFA as a marker to designate a target for potential vandalism/arson.”
The FBI was notified of the marking one day after being notified by an officer of another law enforcement agency that unidentified individuals “believed to be members, or associates, of a local anarchist/ANTIFA group,” were “overheard discussing burning down the Richmond courthouse,” according to the report.
The Richmond Police Department said it seized fire accelerants along with multiple handguns, gas masks and sets of ballistic body armor after arresting seven individuals early Wednesday morning. It’s unclear if those individuals are connected to the earlier vandalism of the Richmond courthouse.”
Your skill at copy/paste from redstate is truly amazing.
Hope it brings some knowledge to that ignorant mind of yours.
No knowledge to be gained from propaganda.
I’d like to think so would I. I wonder how the filmers are feeling….