Opinion: “Whiny surf mags like porn STDs!”

Has the surf media gotten too grouchy?

I was having a conversation yesterday with a wonderful friend and filmmaker, Tate MacDowell when he says:

What’s up with these whiny, hypocritical surf mags. Every time I pick one up I feel like isn’t even fun or they’re telling me not to do shit. Seriously, I just got the latest Stab, Surfing and Surfer and they were all bitching about Instagram and locations being blown out. Don’t they understand I’m trying to get my stoke on with this rag? It’s like picking up a porno and reading a bunch of articles about how STD’s are hurting the industry. Fuck off! I’m obviously not getting laid if I’m reading this!

And I think:

Wow totally.

Do you think surf media has gotten too grouchy? I think it has. But the opposite of grouchy is cheese-faced Inertia. What is the middle ground? Help me help you!

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Lemon Next to the Pie
Lemon Next to the Pie
10 years ago

Zactly. The only acceptable MO is to lie about wherever you had a good session at.

Dicks at my local spoiled a tasty peak within 2 days. 1st day 3 blokes, 2nd day 5, next day 25. The only good thing was the swell had dropped but still. I told anyone who asked I was surfing 2 beaches away…

Limbless Jack
Limbless Jack
10 years ago

I mean they hire all these surf writers…Also it not like 90% is just surf pics…

Seaman Staines
Seaman Staines
10 years ago

Stab Mag are in the hands of their corporate puppet masters for the sole purpose of growing their surf sales market, the hardcore secret spot cover is like wearing a Sons of Anarchy shirt to a Hells Angels party.

throwing disqus
throwing disqus
10 years ago

pacific longboarder…

Abscessed Llama
Abscessed Llama
10 years ago

Why isn’t anyone questioning the watches and devices recording wave length, speed, frequency of rides, date and time. Sure is a lot of data! The question “Is that data being transmitted by location”?

Lemon Next to the Pie
Lemon Next to the Pie
10 years ago

Surf mags? That would be passing on info to about 7 people wouldn’t it?

I’d rather using a phone on the beach was punished by disappearing them up a hole. If you need to call a mate to go surfing with, they don’t really like you.

Tom House
Tom House
10 years ago

do you live in the same house as your surfing friends? how else would you coordinate a surf sesh wthout a phone call? the mind boggles.

Charlie Conway
Charlie Conway
10 years ago

Too grouchy? Never. In fact, not grouchy enough. Look at media coverage of any other sport, brutal in comparison.
When was the last time that a surfer was truly called out for a shitty (excuse me, “poor”) performance?

wincy
wincy
10 years ago
Reply to  Charlie Conway

touché

Tom House
Tom House
10 years ago

I think this MacDowell dude is confusing grouchy with thoughtful

Tate MacDowell
Tate MacDowell
10 years ago
Reply to  Tom House

I just sitting on the shitter trying to read a magazine that makes me excited for surfing and instead I’m reading about a ton of people that are getting paid to go surfing who think people like myself are fucking it up for them. Then I’ll end up at some industry freaking tradeshow with a panel of magazine editors listening to them spit out bullshit reasons that they think readership is down and print is dying.

Tom House
Tom House
10 years ago
Reply to  Tate MacDowell

man for somebody who doesn’t like whining…

Tate MacDowell
Tate MacDowell
10 years ago
Reply to  Tom House

TomHouse must work for a magazine

Abscessed Llama
Abscessed Llama
10 years ago
Reply to  Tate MacDowell

The mags are so use to being the guardian of secrets when it comes to waves and there where about’s. Social media has opened the pandora’s box! Ive been shut down when asking an industry fellow about certain location of a wave i wanted to go surf. “Its a secret can’t talk…” I have no empathy for their situation. Its all about control..

Suss Oldman
Suss Oldman
10 years ago

Incorrect!!! The mags are the disclosers of surf spots, always have been. But regular folks do it too, and should be beaten with a stick for it. Shut up you guys.

Lemon Next to the Pie
Lemon Next to the Pie
10 years ago
Reply to  Suss Oldman

There’s a lot of people who would benefit from a good stick beating.

wally
wally
10 years ago

Surf mags reflect the sport. Surf mags are grouchy because most surfers are really old.

Tate MacDowell
Tate MacDowell
10 years ago
Reply to  wally

and there you have it… the mags really just want to tell us all to fuck off and take up golfing instead. But that’s not much of a business plan.

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
10 years ago

No no no no no it’s called “attitude”. It tells everyone you are an “opinion leader”, you know, “right on! we’re calling this shit to account!” while in fact you are disappearing up your own arse.

wincy
wincy
10 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

now we all know there is only so far you can disappear up your own narnia-hole. to really disappear one must go alone into anothers narnia-hole. this is physics people.

wincy
wincy
10 years ago
Reply to  wincy

or geometry. i cant rememembember.

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
10 years ago
Reply to  wincy

Next! “Stop using your Mobile Telephones to alert your colleagues to the goodness of the Surf!”

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
10 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

“We’re All Rebels!!” No you’re not.

Chas Smith
Chas Smith
10 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

Ha!

Otto
Otto
10 years ago

That t-shirt should have also said “and one hell of a dumb fucking haircut”

velobwoy
velobwoy
10 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Beg to differ

Tired old guy
Tired old guy
10 years ago
Reply to  velobwoy

Betty Page meets weed wacker

velobwoy
velobwoy
10 years ago
Reply to  Tired old guy

Karen O meets PJ Harvey meets rrawrrr….

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
10 years ago
Reply to  velobwoy

I hate it when Dudes get creepy but that New York Jewish junkie chic vibe does it for me…

Michael Ciaramella
Michael Ciaramella
10 years ago

I wrote the grouchy ING piece. Sorry Chester, I’m a salty dog

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
10 years ago

Are the rumours true that ING is going weekly with a glossy tabloid style in a attempt to compete with BeachGrit?

Michael Ciaramella
Michael Ciaramella
10 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

We’ll be publishing a twice daily zine called beachshit

Chas Smith
Chas Smith
10 years ago

Ha! Well Derek and I are pivoting to a feel good t-shirt brand called 4ever 40!

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
10 years ago

Oh, So other than the time frame, sticking with the status quo.

Chas Smith
Chas Smith
10 years ago

I didn’t read! How grouchy were you? Like…..Don Trump grouchy or K. Khan grouchy?

Michael Ciaramella
Michael Ciaramella
10 years ago
Reply to  Chas Smith

I thought I was your favorite surf journalist? Warshaw has already mailed me his half of your friendship bracelet…

The Kublai is a good man at heart, I reckon I’d align myself within his realm of grouchery

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago

Tis the most enlightened and hermetic, sometimes ascetic and even mystical, form of grouchery.

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago

Bring the fun. Bring the incendiary. Bring the controversial. Bring the true “irreverence” which Surfer curiously champions without, apparently, having looked up the word.

wincy
wincy
10 years ago

chas tell us things you love and why they are great

Darghh
Darghh
10 years ago
Reply to  wincy

Real things tho, not just clothes I can’t afford.

The Bitchy Crab
The Bitchy Crab
10 years ago

I’d like to step in and say I came…this…close to announcing the cover above as the cover of the year. I loved it!

Tate MacDowell
Tate MacDowell
10 years ago

I like the picture and all the work put into making it. I just didn’t even know that “dropping pins” was a thing.

Chas Smith
Chas Smith
10 years ago

I like aesthetically but believe that we have become overly grouchy. The demand to “stop dropping pins…” Don’t fucking tell me what to fucking do! See! Grouchy!

Tate MacDowell
Tate MacDowell
10 years ago
Reply to  Chas Smith

But then you’ve got Derek in that Dane interpretation telling us to “Lose the soul arch.” You writers think that we’re just waiting to be told what to do and what not to do?

Tom House
Tom House
10 years ago
Reply to  Tate MacDowell

if you paddle out in the way, splash others while kicking, and sit too close to people in the lineup, you deserve to be told what to do.

Tate MacDowell
Tate MacDowell
10 years ago
Reply to  Tom House

“Ew, did you see that kook splash me? I hate getting wet when I’m surfing!”

Tom House
Tom House
10 years ago
Reply to  Tate MacDowell

oh no

Michael Ciaramella
Michael Ciaramella
10 years ago
Reply to  Tate MacDowell

that is very much the way that media works, yes

Jen See
Jen See
10 years ago

snort laughing

Samuel Hall
Samuel Hall
10 years ago

Hahahahaha yes grom

Captain Clark
Captain Clark
10 years ago
Reply to  Chas Smith

I have been listening to the surf splendor podcast since I heard about it on BG. That said, there is a really good one with Dave Parmenter that sums this up fairly well.

Frontwards Fin Frank
Frontwards Fin Frank
10 years ago

Grit is the middle way!


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