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Stab co-founder Sam McIntosh adjusts his tie for battle!
Stab co-founder Sam McIntosh adjusts his tie for battle!

Aggression: Stab goes super nuclear!

Shots fired that can't be ignored!

The boiling rage behind a pained smile is something I’ve been addicted to as long as I can remember. It is part of why I stuck myself into the middle of Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Al Aqsa Martyr’s Brigade, Russian mafia parties as a slightly younger man.

Part of why I went to Mick Fanning’s North Shore Micktory party as a slightly older man.

I love conflict and don’t think it is a bad thing but rather something that lubes the spirit, challenges the staid narrative and creates dramas that everyone can enjoy.

Which is part of why I crashed Stab magazine’s booth at the Agenda trade show in Long Beach, California a few short weeks ago. It was a sad place with only one lonely boy sitting cross-legged on the floor but it thrilled me much. Not because of its social failure but because I got to reconnect with Sam McIntosh and his little biz partner mate Tom Bird and their most pained smiles that I have ever seen in my entire life. Pained, angry, frustrated. Hurt. Rigid.

Livid.

Oh you know some of the history between us all. You know that BeachGrit founder Derek Rielly co-founded Stab. You know that he brought me on more than a decade ago to write for Stab. You know that I regularly poke fun of Stab. And you know that Stab mostly stays publicly silent.

Mostly.

What you maybe don’t know is, behind the scenes Stab‘s other co-founder 41 year-old Sam McIntosh purportedly calls surf companies and tells them they’ll be left out of SurfStitch’s glorious offering. Tells them that advertising on BeachGrit will be bad for their business. In legal terms that’s called tortious interference and very naughty, suable etc. But all’s fair in love and war and I’ve never written about…

…until Sam went on new website The Business of Surf and went nuclear! The interviewer asks:

Are you and him (Derek Rielly) still mates? Theres often a few digs at STAB via Beachgrit but is it all fair in love and war?

And Sam McIntosh responds:

I approached Derek when these stories started appearing and told him I thought it was more damaging to him than me. But the stories continued. So I called him. I said: “We talked about this. You know it’s a shitty look in business talking about your ex, yeah?”

We always had a rule not to trash talk competitors on Stab and it served us so well.” And we made a deal. I said you will never read a negative word about you or your business ever on Stab – you have my word. It’s far classier for us both.”

And I’ve stood by that.

This is a gifted writer, brilliant even, 50 years old, getting giddy with his little biz partner mate, poking holes in the business he used to own on a public forum. This is part of the foundation for his last big swing in business! And validation doesn’t come in commercial success but when other veteran surf writers like Nick Carroll roll in to throw punches! Think about that objectively for a second: a 30-year career writing about surfing and you’re fixated not on the world tour, or commerce, or the environment or John John but the business you sold a decade ago!

Little biz partner mate? Little biz partner mate?

THAT’S ME!

Little biz partner mate. Oooooooooh. I fear that Sam misunderstood the laughs that I was making toward Stab here, the “stories that started appearing” the “giddiness” as the full force of my capacity to rage.

Uh oh!

I have many stories. Many many many funny stories. And now the cold war has turned hot. Unfortunately for Sam he mistook “online surf publishing” for “business” and mistook his “word for truth” as truth.

Oops.

Now it is on on.

Or as the great fighter William Tecumseh Sherman said:

I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell.

Welcome to paradise Stab magazine.

Welcome to paradise.

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Ricoimmo

dare to dream

East of the 5

Pretty sure Sam McIntosh was an Alpha Phi at SDSU in the late 1990’s. I’m sorry for what happened to you Sammy; I really am…..

Abscessed Llama

Maybe Derek needs to real his kitten in slightly. I’m still waiting for a story on the use of HGH in the sport of kings top athlete / athelete’s…

turts

This is so fucking lame. Speaks volumes about surfings direction

channelbottom

Straight to the beach with a poo-stance?

turts

Only if I can put on my leather jacket and do some pretend shovelling with Ford

channelbottom

https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

just nicked this from reddit.
vaguely relevant somehow, dunno.

turts
Choc

Sam has great eyebrows!

channelbottom

He’s got a terrible receding hairline though.
Totally kooking out there.

Dumb Florida Redneck
abs(ə)nt

Sam’s a great guy. He’d never act like a spoilt child and yell and scream and threaten. Sam can not be categorized as a cunt, like, ever.

DrunkenAngel

sarcasm?

longtom

Sammy screwed the spread a few times in that interview methinks.

abs(ə)nt

Always.

Return of the Samsung Board

If Tudor can’t get non- alco sponsors, he might have to let Stab employ him as a contract knee kicker

channelbottom

Sean V and Tudor should get an abusive Twitter double-act going.

Imagine them in the WSL commentary booth…

Dumb Florida Redneck

I’d subscribe to that.

channelbottom

They could alternate between a ‘Chan’ / ‘Wiggoly’s Paddling Style ‘ duet of hilarious filth, and a SV / JT tirade of abuse.

Instant classic. Show me where to pay.

throwing disqus

Stab, if your reading this (we know your reading this), the best thing you could do for your site would be to actually moderate some of the comments. One of the the best things about beachgrit is the great interaction in this section and how well NEGS moderates it. Just saying..

Tom

Yeah spot on the comments on Stab go out of hand – bit of banter here but nothing “too personal” makes it more fun for sure!!!

channelbottom

I think Joiny is getting a bit tiring also, bless his little cotton socks.

janeausten

Mario’s pretty bloody good too.

Dogsnuts

What’s with the articles lately over at stab being largely written by Alan Smithee?

NEGATRON

Can’t say I’ve ever heard Derek say a foul word about Sam or STAB here at Beachgrit?? Guess he thinks Derek should put a muzzle on his little bitty Biz partner? Chas, muzzle? Ha!

longtom

thats what I thought…..why did Sam go ham on Derek ? Doesn’t he know Chas by name?

funky Gibbon

Passive aggressive… The true sign of a weak weak man.

longtom

Is he not at least intelligent enough to realise how blatant that was then: how it’s such a shitty look in business, yeah?

funky Gibbon

He also knows that if he publicly calls out Chas he’s going to get ripped to shreds by Chas. Everyone knows Derek is a nice bloke… He speaks to everyone and is always out surfing and chatting. I can’t remember the last time I saw Sam in the surf if there wasn’t a pro in tow.

NEGATRON

Hand up… weak, weak man in the room… it was a passive aggressive move on my behalf to throw this story to Chas this morning.

funky Gibbon

I’d say it was rightly a fully aggressive move on your part.

NEGATRON

If BeachGrit was the Game of Thrones I’d be Petyr Baelish.

A short weasel of a man who plays his cards close to his chest throwing people onto the swords of others for his own sick amusement, the stench of death just ever so slightly covered by the smell of stolen roses.
https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

funky Gibbon

Imagine that written on your headstone!

Lemon Next to the Pie

Would that make Chas Tyrion or Cersei?

MC would have been John Snow. (‘You know nothing John Snow’ and his girlfriend schools him).

Can I be The Hound?

NEGATRON

Chas is totally Cersei…

The Hound you are!

Litmus and Chill

Feigning ignorance of someone’s name is a power play that I’m planning on doing a lot of at my high school reunion.

Bragu Moy

Love the fact that Beach thingy doesn’t pretend to do journalism… but everyone assumes they do. The ultimate joke on Stab and alike.

NEGATRON

Alot of fun-less and dull people criticise this site for its picking of the lowest hanging fruit, but that’s what I love about the Grit… two dudes that have, and have had some serious journalistic side projects, still finding the time to poke fun and throw stones in this little glasshouse of ours…
But I do see where Sam is coming from… STAB is his baby! I just think he fails to see that his baby is now a teenager and still breastfeeding…

longtom

I seriously don’t understand his beef though.

If STAB is flying high then Chas chipping away means nothing except to prove the old adage: the only thing worse than getting spoken about is not getting spoken about.

ie; what the fuck has he got to worry about≥ he sounded mightily butthurt for bloke killing it.

the numbers don’t add up here.

channelbottom

er… a teenager, breastfeeding and also turning tricks.
Very dark.

NEGATRON

STAB in the Dark.

Dumb Florida Redneck

Oooof , nice…..

DrunkenAngel

you’re supposed to give up breastfeeding?

GiGi

Don’t tell my 30 year old cousins in Italy that…. They’ll f**kin flip!!!!!!

J H

Italy? Have you been to Franklin Square lately?

?uzzled

That’s hot

GiGi

Right on all points….

Bragu Moy

… and wearing onesies!

ricmatic

Is this on pay per view? I would gladly pay $4 a month!

m0rt

Little biz partner mate is so much better than professional receding hairline. This is going to get good

channelbottom

Whoooo…

Handbags at dawn it is!

Blood-colored nail polish will be chipped, mascara liberally smeared and wax-curdling shrieks will rend the delicate aether of the surf lifestyle inter-whatsit.

Can’t fucking wait.

longtom

“I said you will never read a negative word about you or your business ever on Stab – you have my word.”

He wrote this after Morgan W left not a single chamber unemptied? Maybe Morgan never got the memo?

Has Nick Carroll been swinging punches ….at Stab?

Was Sam on peyote when he spoke?

Surely Derek isn’t 50? He only looks 30 in the photo.

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Thanks Derek.

Tom

That’s what I was going to comment – cant be 50???? I thought the Sabre interviews he was pushing 30
Fuck he hold’s it well if that the case!!

kchunks

At least Board bandages and the guy doing the throw away foam climb hung about.

Chris Binns

Zing!

Chris Binns

Board Bandages ad sits beautifully alongside last week’s post about folks who are too cool for leashes mind.

DrunkenAngel
Chas Smith

Amen!

channelbottom

Did Lost really get scared away?

Edit: I can now see a little banner ad, so I guess not. Thank goodness.

The MHL Buoy

The comments! https://www.swellnet.com/fo…

NEGATRON

Longtom, bitter and angry! Love it!
“To call Reilly a stain on the soul of surfing is to dignify mould”

The MHL Buoy

Heavy words and so much passion. If Chas whips up a internal blood feud would Sam McKintosh break a smile?

Matt Warshaw

Stories please! Hot stories, funny stories.

Mapski

That’ll be three bucks a pop to you.

Dogsnuts

Fucking bang!

throwing disqus

This is why i love this comment section so much. amazing.

toofattosurf

stab’s better…

GiGi

Well done….

capn birdseye

Hah! I just read this, mouthed to myself, “shit – shots fired!” and came here to see who wrote a response!

NUG

Sam obviously plagiarized those quotes from the former CEO of Blockbuster Video.

throwing disqus

I haven’t laughed at a comment as much as i did just now at yours. Brilliant.

Dogsnuts

Holy fuck.

christo

Yeah, super beautiful.


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