The world's greatest rhino chaster on his new biopic Take Every Wave…
Earlier today, a well-proportioned fifty-three-year-old Hawaiian-born man, a superhuman some might say, lighted up my telephone from his summer house in Malibu, California.
Laird Zerfas (later, Hamilton, when his mammy split from daddy and moved her and the boy to the North Shore where she married the big-waver Billy Hamilton) was born in an experimental salt-water sphere, was scouted as a model as a teenager and, later, turned the whole big-wave thing on the head with tow-surfing, foils and so on.
Malibu in summer is where Laird does his pre-season training: running, swimming, paddling, six, sometimes seven days a week.
Maui, in winter, is where Laird besieges his favourite big waves. Jaws etc.
Laird was calling to talk about the movie Take Every Wave: the life of Laird Hamilton, the biopic directed by Rory Kennedy, which is loosed into fifty American cinemas in two days.
In a few hours he’ll be fronting the US premiere (the movie’s world premiere was at Savage Cinema at the San Sebastian Film Festival in Spain) perhaps even ditching the famous flip-flops-with-jeans look.
“I might go big and wear shoes!” he says.
Should you see Take Any Wave? Read the review here!
Now let’s babble.
BeachGrit: In the trailer, ’cause, caveat, I ain’t seen the film, lost the link to the screener, you said the ocean was where you could get away from trouble on the land? What trouble?
Laird: I grew up a white guy in Hawaii and there was a certain level of …of…of…aggression… on the land. Or should I say, instead of aggression, a certain level of separation. I was a white guy in a dark guy’s world. I was an outsider, like I am in surfing, so it was a natural place for me. Some of my best friends are Hawaiians and some of the greatest and most beautiful people are Hawaiians. But when you’re a minority in a racially tense environment you get used to being an outcast. I think that shaped my life.
BeachGrit: Do you sympathise with the wretched treatment doled out to Afro-Americanos by the White Devil on the mainland?
Laird: I sympathise. First of all, it makes me anti-racial. I always say I’m a human from earth. If you’re different we can talk about it. I am anti-racial. I have friends of all nationalities and I don’t discriminate.
BeachGrit: What’s the key to a remarkable life?
Laird: You’ll never regret following your heart. You don’t always know if you’re going in the right direction but if you go with your heart and instincts it seems to pan out. At least for me.
BeachGrit: How honest is the film?
Laird: It’s about as honest and open as I can be. I did twenty five hours of interviews with Rory Kennedy, the director, and she interviewed every person that she could and dug out archival footage and she made a story out of it. What she chooses to put in and what she chooses to take out, it’s all her and her skills. I did what I could to make a great film. Some people are quite surprised by it. But, is every single thing that happened to me in it? No. You couldn’t fit it all in a two-hour movie.
BeachGrit: What keeps you awake at night?
Laird: The wellness of my children. Things that I desire keep me awake too. I’m kept awake by the inspirational as well as the fear based. But the things that are fear-based have to do with my family.
BeachGrit: Have you ever believed you were about to die?
Laird: I have. Probably more than once. Most of ’em happened when I was really young.
BeachGrit: Can you recount a specific event?
Laird: They blend together. I try not to give anything like that too much power.
BeachGrit: What’s failure to you?
Laird: Not willing to try is a form of failure. The lack of an ability to say you’re sorry, there’s failure in that.
When I’m in danger, when I’m in a position of fear, I’m on high alert. It’s the most awake I can be in my life. My awareness, everything, peripheral vision, my senses are on maximum. Everything’s turned up.
BeachGrit: What’s fear to you?
Laird: Fear is your imagination. Fear itself is an energy, an emotion that is very useful. Being scared is something else, however.
BeachGrit: How does fear manifest itself within you?
Laird: When I’m in danger, when I’m in a position of fear, I’m on high alert. It’s the most awake I can be in my life. My awareness, everything, peripheral vision, my senses are on maximum. I’m assessing. Everything’s turned up. It’s a mode I go into. I’ve been there before and it’s got me through a lot of different situations.
BeachGrit: What would you change about your life?
Laird: Nothing if it would stop me from being here, today, at this time. Listen, are there things I’m remorseful for? That I regret? Yeah, possibly. Everyone has that. But, if the changing of those things would change where I am, I wouldn’t change any of ‘em. Listen, at a certain point, having regrets is unhealthy anyway.
BeachGrit: This ain’t movie, but that damn hip you got sawn off and replaced a year ago. You’re awake in the operation and you go home without painkillers. Oowee, that’s tough.
Laird: It felt like a horse kick for three months. But it had gotten to the point where I could barely walk. I’d surf for two hours and then have to do two hours of mobility, soft-tissue work to get it neutral. I don’t mind hobbling around if I can perform in the ocean but it was starting to inhibit my ability in the water.
BeachGrit: Is watching your hip get sawn off and replaced with steel a fabulous experience?
Laird: The doctor was covered in my blood, all over his mask. I could feel him yanking on me. I could feel pulsing as he was doing shit to my leg. It wasn’t pain because they did a spinal tap where they numb one leg. I called one of my buddies to talk during the operation for amusement,
BeachGrit: How y’feel now?
Laird: Phenomenal. I run the beach but I got other issues now. Other things that hurt, but not that.
BeachGrit: Take Every Wave is a life story. Describe your life.
Laird: Listen, the film is full disclosure. Life is a rollercoaster and no matter what is perceived in the media, there’s a winter, a summer, a hurricane, a calm. Things happen. Experience happens. My life is no different.
And watch in weird 360!
I try not to be critical of the questions/ reporting here as I have no idea how that stuff works, but how do you not hit the female/sharks issue? Would love to know what his wife and daughter’s reactions were.
..but why would [presumably], one of the fittest people imaginable have an [?elective] hip replacement under spinal anaesthetic? That is very weird, or there’s a fuller story there.
Fuck all of y’all Laird haters! I like that he made his own way as a pro surfer without submitting to the sameness of the surf industry. I’m stoked on his new feature length film with an actual story that I can watch with my family instead of a bunch of clips of the clones of the day.
paddling not relevant , as Laird went beyond the paddle realm and pioneered Foiling and towing into waves that were never deemed surfable!
He was a presence in the water , could ride Backdoor very well , style was a bit stiff , but in bigger waves he was and is a standout , as he pioneered Tow surfing which means went where no-one else had been before , had to redesign his equipment , which had an influence on all of us who have ever ridden big waves , one could say he was one of the catalyst’s that pushed surfing in big waves to todays levels.
You don’t have to like Laird , but you can respect what he has done , and he can seriously back up his mouth!
I don’t like Laird but yeah yeah
That Biggest Wednesday tow surfing he did in ’98 (?) was phenomenal
Right, let’s just all forget about Buzzy Kerbox???? Yawn, I’m so tired of mainstream hype/ignorance. Quit acting like a sheep Maurice.
I thought the subject matter was Laird , but just for you , yeah Buzzy was there , and he partnered with Laird.
what fucken Hype and ignorance , I know him from personal experience had a great chat to him during the Lowers comp, all about design /foils / frontiers still to be conquered, he offered to help with the new foil technology , training facilities etc…not a word about himself , 2 blokes having a chat about the future…as for the sheep comment are you a New Zealander , am I making you horny?
I think the ignorance comment might apply to you , as you don’t really seem to have done too much in your surfing life and then take pot shots a blokes who really have backed their mouths up!
Yeah, we know you know everybody Maurice. I got my big surf bravado from Buzzy Trent, and was able to know the Big Wave crew. I just get tired of Laird getting hyped up about being “The Big Wave Pioneer”. As for your “haven’t done much in your surfing life”. I was busy creating a nest egg for myself, and defending my Country. But your impressive board shaping career, and all the money you have is making me jealous. Wow, you still have to pound out boards to make money. LoL. How’s that success in the Surf World doing you, little buddy?
Having a bad day VS?
Buzzy Trent , are you really older than me?
The difference between Mr Kerbox and Laird was Lairds drive on design , and being a better self promoter , so it’s the media who have hyped him up , but that doesn’t change the substance of what he has done and what he is doing!
As I said you don’t seem to have done much in your surfing life , but have built a nice nest egg , and defended your country , whereas I have surfed /shaped at pretty high level , but as far as the money goes, hahhahhaa….I own a $500 car , and still travel to shape to make ends meet, no assets/savings , so success is grey area , what’s your version of success…..nest egg and defended your country , I would be considered an enormous failure in your world , but I live in another!
I’ve always been a distant fan of your work/character. You’ve changed, but I still appreciate your sacrifice/donation to the Surf World. Truth is, I’ve only ever taken, not contributed.
I’d like to think I have evolved a bit with all the Lessons in life I have received , no sacrifice or donation , funny how one of my life Motto’s is , I gave more than I took , which is not a criticism of those who have pursued wealth as their holy grail , but more an observation of where the world is at , Me Me Me….will be interesting to see how this world will play out…off for a surf …
Bloody good answer, Brutus.
I wonder if he talks about his botox trips to the dr with ben stiller. Hopefully.
Laird Shmaird. How bout that interview, Dazza? “What’s fear to you?”?! Any one of us could’ve answered that for him with a madlib. You could’ve talked about why the average Gritter thinks he’s a douche, and his perceived narcissism. What – afraid he wouldn’t like you afterwards?
right on! boring questions indeed. laird’s very happy being laird – he really doesn’t mind getting asked anything.
I doubt Laird would see average Beach Gritters as a peer group he would respect their opinions , and yeah there are a lot of very average gritters , who love living the tall poppy syndrome , but can they back up their opinions as can Laird?
I don’t think most Gritters, when speaking honestly, would have anything but respect for what he’s done in the water. It’s the self-mythologizing that intrudes upon our media/head-space which is problematic. And I get it – it’s about making a living. But you can’t get something without giving up something – in this case, cool-cred. And I bet he’s fine with that. Still, would have been nice for Derek to at least bring it up.
cool cred , but by whom?
I think Laird has cool-cred with his peers!
I don’t know, does he? Who does even think his peers are? Isn’t it at least worth talking about? There’s obviously resentment out there. Whether he gives a shit or not, why ignore it?
yes he does , as a pioneer , designing surf boards and foils leading the way for guys like Kai Lenny.
I would imagine his peers would be all kinds of people , you might call them the Elite , but basically people who can back up their mouths with actions….and are a bit left field?
Laird has always been very thick skinned , but also very respectful , he wouldn’t give a shit about any resentment or negative comments as he is too busy with his life!
I was genuinely curious. I get heart jumps and an inability to swallow air when I get scared. Wondered how it affected him.
I think pretty much every big wave god answers that question the same way.
Typical BS you would expect in this article. Last time I checked Laird winters on Kauai and hasn’t surfed Jaws in a decade. He is the master of self promotion to make a buck. Good gig if you can get it. With an ego so big a moon orbits it. I’ll pass on the movie.
me too, haven’t seen any footy for years
had a long chat with him a couple of weeks ago , foils are what he is now pioneering , some amazing design stories , training with the USA Americas cups teams , learning about how to go 50knts and do a turn……pretty exciting stuff!
+1 for Die Antwoord.
Dunno who the rest of those losers are.
I just like lists
Franz Liszt?
He good.
Yeah about 1983 at Backdoor.
Derek-Take any wave or take EVERY wave? Trailer claims the latter.
Yeah, I got it wrong. The PR company hit me up this morning.
Laird’s a narscisist. I don’t like him much. Call him what you like, in real life he’d shut you up just by talking about himself for hours. You’d wander off wondering if he would be your next child’s P.E or Maths teacher. Or worse.
Laird’s a classic. I like him a lot. Call him what you like, in real life he’d shut you right up just by being himself. You’d wander off wondering if he would be your next child’s godfather.
I live in a sea of those people and dont think of it as a virtue
I trust your judgement.
Polarizing no doubt, but the walk has always backed up the talk.
agree – in print and at a distance he’s fun to hate but in person he’s fun to be around. also he treats the help well, which ain’t nothing. i suspect it’d be a different story tho if you’re someone he views as competition
“I’m anti-racial”, sounds an awful lot like something a racist would say.
Yeah but…
As a haole who also grew up in Hawaii, I totally agree with him in the spirit of his words if not the mangled vocalisation.
white people always saying they are ‘anti-racial’. nice to have the choice. fucktard laird doesn’t know shit about race … so fucktard laird should shut the fuck up. then again, his ego would keep babbling away as if he had anything worthwhile saying.
World is tough for blonde haired white dudes sometimes…. usually never
as weird as it is to believe, it actually is in hawaii
Racism is about power, not colour.
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Laird still surfing Jaws?
Of course!
Then perhaps we should all shut the fuck up. Or not
Good point … my “knee acts up again” every time the waves are 8 ft ….
Anyone who thinks laird is fun to be around in person has never had him stuff them at 10 foot Hanalei on a fucking boat with an oar. It is the absolute worst and somehow he does it to everyone (except Titus and Terry Chung) every session.
Might I suggest you hide behind an Avatar of some sort before slinging off at big guys like Laird? We all do, it’s so much safer. Weaker, but safer.
Haha. I’m much more comfortable talking about people behind their back. Also way tougher behind a fake name.
Whatever, that is my email and you are welcome to direct any problems there and I will reply promptly. Thought I could weigh in with some personal experience but my handle isn’t befitting? I could be any of the thousands of chargers who have been burned by the biggest pig that ever wielded a carbon fiber paddle and a small boat.
Also never saw mr wonderful paddling peahi when I went? Yeah I can’t comment on this, I’m obviously a kook.
We just like to have fun here man…. it all stems from love …
I was gonna ask him if he’s accepting resumes…..
I bow to thee, Laird, god of the humblebrag…