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Everyone at What Youth was terrified it might jeopardize their chance by associating with me. It was not a popular decision. | Photo: Scott Chenoweth

Meet: The Man Who Said No to Surf Ranch!

"It was not a popular decision…"

Last September, Travis Ferré, the thirty-something co-founder of What Youth magazine, wrote an anti-Surf Ranch piece in response to the WSL barring surf media from its Future Classic event there.

“The way this whole wave-pool-WSL thing has been introduced to the world feels slimy. Elitist and weird. And while I can’t argue that riding it, watching it and the general excitement around the whole thing is noteworthy, I get the same quesy feeling I get around private golf courses and churches. Or when I hear the awkward clop of flip flops. I just don’t think I can buy into this cultish wave pool culture. I’m happy to stick to what I’ve got in the ocean.”

BeachGrit‘s Chas Smith was equally pained.

“I hate it and hate it honestly and truly and with everything in me. Seriously. Much of what I write here flips between semi and hyper ironic but that fucking wave pool. Ooooooh. I want, as I said on the Grit! podcast, for Kim Jong Un to sic his hydrogen bombs upon it.

Derek Rielly loves it. Loves it to the point of lusty tears. Loves it and would give up on most everything to be able to surf it everyday.

Who is right?

I am.”

Of course, virtue never tested is no virtue at all, as they say.

So when the WSL’s Dave Prodan started sending text messages inviting anyone with any sort of involvement in the surf media to surf the pool, most critics made a swift switcharoo.

Everyone except Travis.

Yesterday I asked Travis to reflect upon his decision.

BeachGrit: Were you, or were you not, invited to play in the Surf Ranch? 

Travis: I was invited! At the time, I didn’t know it was a full-blown media pool party, but I did get the invite from the wonderful people at WSL who didn’t want me to feel left out and offered an opportunity to scope it, despite my critical initial take. I was personally invited by Dave Prodan. And I fucking love Dave Prodan. He’s a dude who works for the WSL who still believes in the “magic” of surfing — be it marketing magic or surf magic or general surf lore magic. He understands it. And he’s a great guy to surf with and share a beer with. He understands his job and does it with passion but does not live with blinders on. He is the only person maybe who speaks my language at WSL I think but I’m not entirely sure. I thought it was very nice for him to reach out. My initial reaction certainly didn’t warrant any special invites. I actually did not know at the time, however, that I’d be joined by the wonderful guest list that included lots of friends in the media world, including you and Chas. Might have been worth the trip just to have a drink with you guys and converse with some pals in Lemoore, CA.

What was your response? 

I said that I wasn’t going to surf it — but maybe I’d consider checking it out or possibly send a proxy in my place, but I quickly forgot and just didn’t follow up. (A few of the crew at What Youth are psyched to check it out and I don’t wanna spoil their chances, so hopefully they can go do the surfin’ slip ‘n’ slide if the opportunity presents itself.) I have my opinions of it, and am obviously not as sold on it being the future of surfing or anything. But that doesn’t mean someone at What Youth isn’t psyched to tuck into one.

What was the WSL’s response to your response?

They offered me to send someone else, but like I said, I didn’t really follow up or think much about it after that.

Why did you dig your heels in? Weren’t you curious? Was the thought of being seen as hypocritical to much to bear? 

I actually really want to throw a party there. There is definitely fun to be had. I’m thinking bands and fireworks and rails and ridiculous elements that make the lunacy of a wave pool more bearable. My general curiosity has been quenched by watching people ride it those first few days. It’s impressive for a few waves, but once you’ve kind of seen most of the scenarios play out, it gets a little old. One of my favorite parts of surfing is the ceaseless wonder I get staring at the sea. Looking for peculiar instances or situations or moments or sections pop up and then the subsequent chase to find those things to stare at. Been doing it since day one. I’m a dumb romantic. Just the other day I spoke with Mason Ho and he said he loves rocks in the ocean because they present unique situations around them for rebounds or waves or opportunities. Things you can’t forecast. I like all the silly stuff that happens before and after surfing more than standing on a wave. The pursuit of new places or things. It all boils down to me hating that human nature feels we have to harness and contain everything. Surfing was pretty cool: a pursuit in nature that was spontaneous and weird and free and you could travel and search out. But you can also use it to dial in a certain location, learning moods and nuances that only that spot has. I hate the idea of mechanizing or harnessing it. Also, the pool has been pretty well surfed out by now in my opinion. Can you get deeper? I’m sure there will be some crazy tricks done in there. Will they get the same credit? I dunno. If you listen to surfers talk about it, all they wanna do now is “make it bigger” or “add sections” and you’re like, “Duh, that’s what makes being a surfer so interesting!” All the pursuits to find unique things to experience in the ocean! Now you have to ride a skim board or do an Al Knost layback in the pit to make it interesting. And we’ve only known it exists for a few months now. I find the fact that it already takes gimmicks to make it interesting should be noted. That once the initial shock and awe of a cool man-made wave wears off, what are we left with? I really hate gimmicky things.

Travis-ferre
While the rest of his surf media pals were being torn to emotional pieces by Surf Ranch, Trav was in South Carolina shooting guns and catching (little) man-eating sharks!

Do you really think surf pools are that bad?

No, they’re not bad. They just take out every layer of surfing that I love. The stuff you can’t explain. The magic. I categorize it the same as a water slide. They’re fun as hell, but it’s not something you base your life around. And surfing can be that. It has enough weird nuance and culture and magic in it that you can actually base a life around it. I’ve been around this planet we got and most of the opportunities presented themselves because back in my mind I was trying to surf somewhere. Wave pools remind me of indoor skydiving, hunting in a pen, fishing in a bucket or virtual porn or something. Maybe “fun” but it ain’t the real thing. I hate the human nature that encourages us to harness and control and contain the purest of pursuits. Wave pools play into that same condition. I don’t doubt the fun and the technology is amazing and I hope some people who maybe never would surf can get some element of the thrill. But there is no chance it replaces the daily struggle to wiggle at your homebreak or wander the globe or chuck a duck dive or feel a current or chop hop a rock and surf in new places in a new ocean or sea. That’s the jazz I love.

Did friends, work pals support your decision? 

No not at all. They were terrified it might jeopardize their chance by associating with me. It was not a popular decision.

What did you do on the day you were supposed to be there? 

I had to go back in my phone and see. But it appears it happened around November 2 which is around the time I was in South Carolina filming a piece on Cam Richards. Our most recent Fairly Normal vid. Quite a fun trip. Shot my first gun. Caught a shark. And dove into southern culture head on. One of the most fascinating trips I’ve ever been on.

Fairly Normal: Cam Richards from What Youth on Vimeo.

Three months on, reading about it everywhere, what’s your position now? 

Sounds like it was a blast. Like hearing about someone going to a fun wedding you didn’t attend. I won’t and didn’t lose any sleep honestly though. I literally live next door to Chris Cote and he showed me his very well-surfed backhand wave and barrel one morning and it was cool! I was stoked to see him shred it, but I didn’t feel any different. I love surfing shitty waves. I love surfing good waves. But it’s the in-between it all that I love most.

 

 

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Jerz
Jerz
8 years ago

Good on ya Travis

shootsthen
shootsthen
8 years ago

I understand why he didn’t go to the pool but I don’t understand why he didn’t let someone go in his stead – too cool to care about his buddies?

Otto
Otto
8 years ago
Otto
Otto
8 years ago

Wow

Otto
Otto
8 years ago

Ha!

?uzzled
?uzzled
8 years ago

The Fairly Normal clip was beautiful. A true representation of the place that I live and people that I know. I like this guy’s values and perspectives.

Rumpelstiltskin
Rumpelstiltskin
8 years ago

if the surf media doesnt keep bitting at the carrott we will be ok

Chris Cote
Chris Cote
8 years ago

This whole thing is true, especially when he says very well-surfed backhand wave and barrel.

Jocks
Jocks
8 years ago

The Inertia always has an opinion for me

What I ask a lot is “What would Laird and God do in this situation” It helps

Neal Kearney
Neal Kearney
8 years ago

Integrity?! In Southern California?! I’m thoroughly impressed. (Subdued) Rage Against the Machine

mundus
mundus
8 years ago

Finally somebody in the “industry” with some integrity, saying no to the cool kids takes alot of character.

Horatio Algae
Horatio Algae
8 years ago
Reply to  mundus

What youth – the no claim claim of surf media. I prefer my surf media with a bit more DeSouza

Rumpelstiltskin
Rumpelstiltskin
8 years ago

the WSL got you guys to sing didnt they. SINCE all the surf media WAS banned from entry, this led to all of you media types complaining and then shock horror, you were invited , like a spoilt kid you got your own way and now you wont shut up about it, seriously , you all played into the WSL hands pure marketing genius , as usual advertorial wins again and team wass are happy again with chas and derek for towing the corporate line and even thou derek probably shops at the farmers markets on thursdays ..

surfmom
surfmom
8 years ago

This guy is the real deal. The first time I met Travis I was at my local shaper’s shop picking up a fresh board. He had shown up with the latest issue of WY and pack of Modelo. When asked of the occasion he fired back something to the effect of “because it’s Friday” with zero hesitation. I along with everyone in the shop was offered a beer and a smile. Only later did I find out that he was the guy behind WY. I was legitimately caught off-guard by the fact he wasn’t like every other industry knob who immediately uses their connections,sponsors, job, etc to ‘swing dick’ on ‘lesser’ surfers like myself. Since then I’ve seen him several times at the shop and am always impressed at the casual stoke and honest-to-goodness normality of the dude. Also fucking rips and is of a creative caliber many in the surf world strive for. Passionate and talented, but steadfast in his reluctance to appear contrived. Truly a disposition we should all emulate.

longtom
longtom
8 years ago
Reply to  surfmom

I am sold, I’ll take half a dozen.

longtom
longtom
8 years ago

Trav for Prez.

nicky buttonshaw
nicky buttonshaw
8 years ago
Tom
Tom
8 years ago

The only way I reckon that the pools will be loved universally is if they actually pump out 4-6 ft perfect flawless barrels, and that you can visit one in your local area to surf at night once you finished in the ocean!!! For me it is the ability to surf after work if I have missed a day traveling etc or the banks winds forecasts are totally fucked – then happily pay my 100 bucks or was it $1350

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago

Stoking the tension. Gets the punters all fired-up and antsy.

BTW: imagine being that guy who has to announce the wave countdown every time.
Soul destroying work. Like kids birthday party DJs etc.

Jen See
Jen See
8 years ago

And just like that, the Grit became a dating site.

Neal Kearney
Neal Kearney
8 years ago
Reply to  Jen See

Cringefest!

Eddie Haiku
Eddie Haiku
8 years ago

He at least could have visited the Kook Pond and released that lil shark into the chlorine. Just when The Adjunct Professor of Frivolous Litigation jumped in.

Black Rubber
Black Rubber
8 years ago
Reply to  Eddie Haiku

“The Adjunct Professor of Frivolous Litigation”

(nodding)

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
8 years ago

I have surfed a few tidal bores in France to please friends and the wave pool has many similarities . No duck dives , No sets , No choice , No salt water , No Ocean ,No sneaking a wave on the way back out, No should I get another wave and then another, No secret Huey rubs . One Wave and Mud . I Hate Mud .

Tomas' silky smooth arms
Tomas' silky smooth arms
8 years ago

No ocean and no ocean

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago

‘Nocean’

… dude, we like, just coined a phrase together.

STOKED.
(High five)

Tomas' silky smooth arms
Tomas' silky smooth arms
8 years ago
Reply to  channelbottom

Ha fuck yes!

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago

I want to gift my portion of the royalties to Chas’s legal fund.

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
8 years ago
Reply to  channelbottom

Yes the Nocean has no storm created motion .

Otto
Otto
8 years ago

I keep imagining Kelly as that guy from Silence of the Lambs, staring down at all of us in the dry well. “It does what it’s told. It puts the nocean on it’s skin!”

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
8 years ago
Reply to  Otto

And off we go like lambs to the slaughter. Kelly is my Shepherd ,I shall not want .

Otto
Otto
8 years ago

Give a man a Slater Design board and he’ll be a surfer for a day. Give a man the nocean of a Wave Ranch and he’ll be a furfer for life.

Tomas' silky smooth arms
Tomas' silky smooth arms
8 years ago
Reply to  channelbottom

The problem with wavepools is there’s nocean.

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago

“Hey let’s drive to the nocean and check the satanic-mirror action.”


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