"If he claimed to be a Nazi and hating blacks, maybe it was Dora putting on a fright mask and saying Boo! to the surfing world…"
Well Dora understood way back when, before Musk and before Trump and before WSL bought BeachGrit, the PT Barnumism that there is no such thing as bad publicity.
Dora would say outrageous things and as long as people were talking about him or putting him in Surfer Magazine and paying attention to him and maybe even paying him, Dora was winning.
Dora had a big, black hole of a soul and he thrived on negative energy, poor sap.
Tubesteak said Dora was the product of a dysfunctional childhood and probably had an Oedipus complex about his mom, who sounds like a femme fatale from a Raymond Chandler novel: Human fish, swimming at the bottom of the great ocean of atmosphere, develop psychic injuries as they collide with one another. Most mortal of all are those gotten from the parent fish.
Da Bull said Dora was very bright and that was part of his problem.
Dora cared about things and was hardly the only person to be spun out by the cynicism and hypocrisy and violence and divison of the 1960s.
Anyone who surfs Malibu now fantasizes about rolling up to Furst Point in 1956 driving a Bel Air or a ‘Vette or an F100 or a Woody or a Spyder rocking out to Girl Can’t Help It by Little Richard and surfing yourself to jelly on balsa chips on those big, green days with maybe 20 friends and no dingalings coming for another five years.
That’s how Dora had it and it was paradise, pretty much, but it all ended very very fast – Gidget to Ride the Wild Surf in 1962 and that was the end of that.
And that would be a heavy, heavy loss. Soul shattering. Turn a guy into a racist and a Nazi lover, or someone who pretended to be, just because the world made him spin.
In 1959, in the movie Gidget, the big to-do was that Kahuna didn’t have a real job.
Ten years later in 1969, Tarantino’s 1969, during the historic swell of December, in that same week the fan was killed at Altamont, the first Vietnam draft lottery was held and Manson was trotted out on the front page of the LA Times as the evil mind behind Tate/Labianca.
The world changes a lot in 10 years but rarely has it changed as much as between 1959 and 1969. Dora got swept up in all that. Some say he was at the Ambassador Hotel the night Robert Kennedy was shot.
Would a racist support Robert Kennedy or a Nazi support the Democratic Party?
Unlikely.
If he claimed to be a Nazi and hating blacks, maybe it was Dora putting on a fright mask and saying “Boo!” to the surfing world, to people he held in disdain because as we see from BeachGrit, there are a lot of dumbass proles in the surfing world.
Dora’s rascism could have been an act put on by an angry person who didn’t care about wrong or right.
He just wanted attention, maybe going back to the mom deal.
Dora was an act.
As is Trump, as is Musk, as is bitchgripe.com, all of it designed to generate controversy and, hopefully, money money money.
Or maybe Dora really did hate n**gers and Kikes. Who knows?
What was true about Weber and Velzy is true around here: Dora’s been dead for years, but people still want to kill him.
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Would you like to converse with MLK’s right-hand man to fill in your hysterical historical voids? His daughter is one of my best friends. He’s a white pastor. He jumped a bomb to protect MLK. His name is also King. I’ve always found that ironic.
FYI. As a historian, you may be interested in reading a book called “Cunt. A history.” Raising information revealed in this book always goes down badly at up market dinner parties.
Originally it was used to describe a smart woman, Learned, powerful, influential within the tribe. Then it went onto “scabbard for a sword” in the greek era. I’ll let you join the dots.
“Thank God for a few ‘free’ waves”. MSD
I think she may be a unicorn.
totally nuts
https://www.youtube.com/wat…
This is good Jen See. “hey cunt” ! at the pub. (good to seeyou buddy would you like a beer?)
Fuck off cunt. in the surf. Please leave my surf break. I am more local than you.
You’re not a bad cunt then ay? When you are expecting someone to be an arsehole and they are actually a good human.
shit cunt. As in, he is a shit cunt. . That’s about as bad as you can get in australia. Shit cunt and cuntroach. So there you go.
Very rarely is this word used in the context of women and/or their anatomy.
Learning curve, eh?
when someone tells you who they are, believe him.
what’s more logical, evaluating someone based on his actions and words, or coming up with your own goofy theories based on the notion that losing malibu paradise could make you racist. or that mom thing. (as if the hordes of post-gidget newbies were black!)
as for the headline, it’s idiotic to the max. ask the good folks in south boston whether its possible to both support the kennedys and be racist towards blacks.
yes, dora was a product of his time, but there were plenty of others in his same era who weren’t racist, and plenty of others who were raised one way but evolved through life experience. maybe it doesn’t feel good for some to acknowledge that the guy whose name is always still written on the malibu wall had white supremacist beliefs. (or maybe some of dora’s fans share those sentiments) either way, grow the fuck up.
So more ‘conjecture’. That’s what a lot of this is and now trying to lay a trip on some of his backers using, ‘no facts’, just more conjecture and innuendo.
Unfortunately the true comprehension comes through on the inflection of the final ‘ay’. If it was a slow, flat ‘ay’, that would indicate the questioner was asking a question to which he thought the answer was obvious. In this case though, I feel the noseguard of joey is using a touch of rising inflection, which would mean the double negatives do add up to a positive. It can be hard to comprehend the delicacies of Australian slang at the best of times, let alone from the written word. Don’t worry about understanding it as much as using it whenever possible.
the ay definitely had no rising inflection indicating a question. More the flat lazy ay on the end of sentences used by queenslanders to indicate that this is the end of the sentence, ay. At some point in a young surfers life it can be used to mask the possibility of intelligence and so help integrate with the “pack”. ay.
Well, that just proves how difficult it is to use the nuances of Straylian in the written form ay.
I guess the Grit welcomes you back Ben. All the OG ad copy writers are present and accounted for here at the “rebel” outpost.
I get called a good cunt quite often and it’s a sacred compliment.
I’ve found a drawn out “Caaaant” is generally less joyous than a quick “cunt”.
I find “caaaaaarnt” more endearing
me too
Translate? You lost me.
Schafer is a common name in Germany.
But our Schafers weren’t common.
Sorry.
“Cunt” is a flexible word to our Antipodean friends, just as “aloha” is to Hawaiians.
Cunt can be a term of endearment or a death threat.
A flexible word indeed.
I get called a good cunt quite often. My Euro and Murican chick friends don’t understand that is a sacred compliment.
you are a mad shitcunt.
That means you rock it!
its warm and fuzzy auzzy
Once the guy starts talking about. Mongrel races again it’s time to ban him Chas.
I get the feeling that being editor of surfer sends you loopy. I suppose I should feel sorry for him.
For anyone who’s interested in Dora I recommend “all for a few perfect waves” by David Rensin. It’s the best surf biography ever written. Way better than this mumbo-jumbo.
I once slept in the same bed as Dora did. But not at the same time.
your not a bad cunt then ay
Carters problem.
Holy shit…whats with all the Dora Hullabaloo?
The right to the pursuit of happiness should not be confused with the right to happiness ….. ?
Just don’t ever infringe on my right to a happy penis …
An old Nike big wig bought a container full of Miki Dora’s stuff. This lady rented a house to him before he bailed the US and he left a bunch of shit. In this container was a bunch of drawings. Very racists against Asians, Jews and African Americans.
Some Mongrel Mob gang members in the East Cape of New Zealand got a lot of his choicest items after he died (including the famously photographed Nazi coat and associated encoutrements) that he’d left there years earlier.
Maybe he actually did leave “a bunch of shit” (as you put it) at that ladies house in the US ?….
Really? see above comment.
Really ! see my above comment to ghost bro.
It’s not a secret, was in the news after he died.
A lot of his choicest items that had been stored in NZ since he lived there in the ’70’s or ’80’s, were auctioned off publicly after his death and the proceeds sent to his dad.
I dunno about ghostbruddas claim though….
You hammerheads really think Dora is dead?
Apparently you haven’t surfed Shipwreck Bay in a while.
Who was it that said: “There’s a sucker born every minute.”
Was that PT Barnum too?
Wow, it was.
That guy is a walking talking quote machine.
Better than Greg Noll. Or Brock! Or Karl Marx!
Yeah I live an hour away from shippies and can assure you he ain’t there
Really? and we’re just hearing this some 40 years later and none of this stuff has ever surfaced? Did you dream this………….