"Unks took one too many hits to the cranium!"
Four months ago, one of MMA’s greatest, the Hawaiian who took the spotlight off the UFC heavyweights and turned it onto the little guys, announced his candidacy for governor of Hawaii.
Hawaiian-born Jay Dee Penn, who is forty-two and of Irish-American and Korean-Hawaiian descent, posted a clip from the movie Sparta with a call for Hawaiians to wrench control away from bureaucrats insisting on vaccine passports, masks and so on.
“Hawaii will be vaccinated with Aloha,” wrote Baby Jay.
Now, BJ has accidentally sparked a wild race debate on Instagram after posting what he figured was a message of unity to his 345,000 fans.
“Whether you are Hawaiian by blood or Hawaiian by heart. If you live in Hawaii you are Hawaiian.”
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A little clumsy, yeah, for it gifts Mark Zuckerberg, Julia Roberts, Woody Harrelson, Owen Wilson and so on the same Hawaiian status as a direct descendant of Queen Liliʻuokalani, the archipelago’s last regent whose rule was ended at the point of a bayonet by US Marines in 1893.
Even someone like John John Florence, I’d guess, would avoid calling himself Hawaiian and would phrase an answer to the question of his origins with, “I’m from Hawaii.”
Fans of BJ went to town on the Champ.
“Nah bro not how it works.”
Um no. Not even. YIKES
Now everybody going tink dey hawaiian smh
Haole vote secured.
Native Hawaiians, or simply Hawaiians (Hawaiian: kānaka ʻōiwi, kānaka maoli, and Hawaiʻi maoli), are the Indigenous Polynesian people of the Hawaiian Islands. The traditional name of the Hawaiian people is Kānaka Maoli.
No, absolutely not. If someone is living in Hawai’i and is not Hawaiian, it does NOT make them Hawaiian.
You still have time to delete this
Im haole and I live on Oahu. I love the place and the people but I know I’m not Hawaiian. People can have their own culture and still be respectful to each other.
No no no absolutely not! I was born n raised here n have no Hawaiian blood so that makes me “local” not Hawaiian. My husband n babies r of hawaiian blood but I know where I stand when it comes to this topic! So if I lived in the Marshall Islands would I be a Micronesian?? This is ridiculous!
unks took one too many hits to the cranium bc ABSOLUTELY NOT
Have you been living under a rock? Kānaka have been consistently battling the ignorance of foreigners and locals alike, much more amidst the pandemic, for this exact ignorant ideology & you want to validate folks who’ve sought to invalidate the voices & authors of Hawai’i… you’re so out of touch for this. I don’t know who you’re panhandling to or grifting for, but this is not it. Let it be said & clear, living in Hawai’i ≠ Hawaiian
And so on.
What is it with assholes seperating people in to tribes.
Can’t help but think a lot of those Insta comments sound like 1942.
Hawaiian is an ethnicity. It is not a nationality, as Hawaii is part of the United States.
People who are not ethnic polynesian should not be referred to as “Hawaiian” – they aren’t.
Haole are not “Hawaiian”.
Why do you care? Why do you need to separate people by race? Both Jesus and MLK would disagree with race separation. Once again more racism in that group of islands than ever existed in the KKK.
I lived in Scotland for 25+ years, have lots of ‘ancestral Scottish blood’ (whatever the the fuck that bullshit means) but would never pronounce myself as “Scottish”.
That’s a bit harsh
Mark Zuckerberg is Hawaiian
Much ado about nothing.
BJ could have avoided this ‘controversy’ by simply stating that ‘if you live in Hawaii, you’re a Hawaiian resident.’ Note to aspiring politicians: word usage matters.
Haoleaiian
I can see the point through the haze but its a bit of a flawed outlook. There is a certain aspect to “Live Aloha” at play in the islands but its a touchy subject to actually be calling people Hawaiian who are not, including Penn. I have plenty friends who have lived in Indo for 30-40 years. They are referred to as expats, they don’t suddenly claim to be Indo’s (although that might be because they don’t want to be associated with the backwards ass Indo way of doing things).
As I sat in traffic on the 405 yesterday I realized I’m a 405ian
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When you drive your car on the highway does that mean you are highwayan?
Yup. Local haole here. My Hawaiian friends know who they can say “howzit Hawaiian!?” to and who they can’t.
I think he means people who grew up in Hawaii can feel related to one another when they see someone anywhere in the world. Not like blood related but more like calabash cousins.
Does BJ not know about subordinate clauses? And no, BJ, that ain’t a new wrestling move.
I’ve been blessed by Hawaiian “Aloha” three times.
1984, some guy told me I was catching too many waves, sent me down to OTW. There, I had a dream session and figured it was over, but I was again gifted “Aloha” on Ke Nui and yet again at Haliewa Med Center.
Just months later, I enjoyed “Aloha” at Kaisers after surfing all night alone. The three guys who paddled out at dawn were so filled with “Aloha” that I ended the all time session on an off note.
All pale in comparison to the “Aloha” I was shown at Maile Point in ’86.
I feel Hawaiian just thinking about all the love.
I’m haole, was born and raised on Oahu and surfed all over, including spots known for heavy localism. Never once did I see anyone get sent in or hassled when they hadn’t done something to deserve it, i.e. dropping in, back paddling, etc. Just sayin’.
Exactly. Big secret, Aloha means f… you. And to the guy who said that he deserved it, he probably did.
But there are some really great Hawaiian people that live the aloha spirit. Just to clarify. Unfortunately the many spoil it for the few.
Haole’s for Penn. Yeeeewt.
BJ is one very, very troubled braddah. And he ain’t no Hawaiian. He is hapa Korean and Caucasian. Despite him attempting to claim that his late father was Irish/Hawaiian on his wikipedia page it’s well known that is BS. His father was born in Kansas and is Irish/English 100% northern European heritage. His father also never claimed to have Hawaiian koko.
BJ was challenged to take a genetic test after he started to purport that his father was part Hawaiian/Polynesian. He refuses to test. He even forgot to edit another passage in his personal data section wiki page that correctly declares his father as strictly Irish/English.
No matter though as he is still 100% local boy but his brain is sadly scrambled and his constant run-ins with the law are pitiful with his personal life in complete turmoil.
perfect for politics
Thats not racist at all.
Only days after MLK day too.
You really should get outside your garage more often Bex.
Seriously, people who are born in and grow up in England for example, are English regardless of their blood, and any attempt to say they aren’t would be blasted as filthy racism.
Pull your head in.
Yeah but the English did make a habit of raping and pillaging before and after them. That some chickens come home to roost is only to be expected
You know that Idris Elba, half the English football team etc are black and English.
They just are.
Who do you know that raped and pillaged?
Are you gonna tell Naomi Campbell she ain’t English, Faaark, she’d crack ya.
Yes they are both black and English – we can both agree on that. The British empire invaded and enslaved other peoples, so the old Faustian pact has come back to haunt English nationalists.
So haunted
They’re really not though. We all know the difference between Africans-Brits and ethnic Brits the same way we all know the difference between haoles from Hawaii and Native Hawaiians.
We’re supposed to pretend we don’t know these things, but we all do. Race and nationality are not the same, and saying so isn’t wrong; it’s common sense.
There’s a lot of pretending
No doubt
So would anyone born in Hawaii not be a US citizen? Fumes in the garage, Bexy…
Just be racist then if that’s what you want.Some hawaiian are polynesian some are Anglo some asian, black, etc. Same as in England
Hmmmm…is this the right wing talking point of the moment? To conflate nationality with race? You also know Hawaii is a state, right? So someone born there, is a US citizen.
Difference is the Hawaiians didn’t go on a worldwide 600 year raping and pillaging spree. If they had then it might be like England.
You think the Polynesian expansion across the pacific was peaceful?
Rape and pillage isn’t a European invention
Wouldn’t have thought there was anyone there before the Polynesians, but I could be corrected on that
They expanded in every direction. Some islands were inhabited and some were not. They were a warrior society because conquering your neighbor was the thing to do.
Their naivety is stunning
But they did
Lol all of Hawaii was conquered through bloodshed. Kamehameha didn’t negotiate control of the islands, he went island to island attacking the natives of those islands.
It also seems bizarre to single out the Brits, who have nothing to do with this story.
I do wonder if you’d assert these arbitrary rules about who is truly a native to a country for other empires that colonized, conquered and pillaged, as was the norm throughout the world for most of human history. I’d particularly encourage you to look into the Arab slave trade and see what they did with their millions of African slaves, or for that matter, the mass cruelty of many an African empire (Shaka Zulu is particularly fascinating and horrifying).
I think you’ll find that if “people from this area raped and pillaged at some point in history” is your benchmark for a country or territory that anyone can show up and claim to be a native of, then there aren’t many places where this isn’t true.
Good points, however Bexy originally referred to the English, and my people have a long 800 year history of oppression with them. Bexy is an English nationalist (bizarrely – who is living in Australia), and I can’t help but enjoy the dismay of English Nationalists as the remains of the empire come home to roost
How would you feel if China invaded Australia and forced everybody to speak Chinese. Would they be Australians?
I’d feel like a tooheys or 2
It’s got nothing to do with racism Bexy. DHMF says it below exactly right: you’re conflating race with nationality. Your world view naïveté is stunning.
I’m just stunning.
Does he stand a chance at this election thing? He seems nuts.
Whether you are a Beach Gritter by accident or a Beach Gritter by choice. If you live in Beach Grit you are a Beach Gritter
Blood is thicker than wannabe.
Just make Hawaii a reservation and get it over with.
parts of it already are in that there is low or no cost Native-Hawaiian-only housing areas(a large part of Waimanalo on Oahu for example). I do wonder if these Native Hawaiian “reservations” will be expanded over time .
Fuck I miss the “commenter”…I really wish he could chime 1000 times his Sisyphean rant and educate us….I hear he is also a Scientologist!..
Wiggs made an early call and diagnosed him as a Cat Fingerer.
Fuck, that got him going…. Hahahahah
Malibu library is now turning the Wifi off at 6PM when they close…. fyi
Where the hell did Wiggs disappear to?
He called in the other day to insult Chas.
He’s around.
A noble cause.
Should I even ask?
And he lived in Waikiki for 3 years. Just ask him!