When should you shift from Need or Project Blank and into the stratified realm of the high-cost corporate wetsuit?
I mentioned this Rip Curl wetsuit in my most recent board review. A 2mm long-sleeved springsuit purchased in their recent online fire sale. At fifty percent off it was cheaper than wholesale, if my memory of wholesale costs serves me correctly.
Maybe it doesn’t.
I hadn’t bought a Rip Curl wetsuit in ten years or so. Not through any specific distaste for them. I’ve just been swinging back and forth in recent times between basic and premium wetsuit brands.
You gotta give Need, and to a lesser extent Project Blank, credit for the niche they’ve created. Upon purchasing my first Need, which was probably around the time I wore my last Rippy suit, I swore I would be a customer for life. Good-enough quality, drastically reduced prices. A brand ethos I could get behind. Even the all-black design was a major selling point.
But wetsuits are one of those things like mattresses or seafood. Sometimes it’s worth paying a premium price to ensure you get a premium product. Need and PB just haven’t quite got there yet with matching the top-end performers. Perhaps it isn’t in their interest to do so. I dunno.
They’re a damned good suit for those on a budget, and I don’t want to dissuade anybody from copping one if they’re looking at suits in that price $200-$400 range. They still can’t be beat.
But I started drifting back to the premium side a few years ago. A Zion 2mm steamer which I still use as a backup. An O’Neill Defender steamer purchased last winter, which I surfed in every day for six months and which is still holding up admirably.
The extra stretch and water protection was immediately noticeable when compared to my Needs and Project Blanks. And this was only a mid-range O’Neill suit. For those cooler winter and autumn mornings, when a certified cold wuss like myself wants as much protection as they can get without sacrificing flexibility, you can’t go past the top-end performers.
It was to my delight, then, when I saw the Rip Curl wetsuit fire sale.
As I mentioned in my previous article, I didn’t really need a new suit. Around my neck of the woods you can transition from boardies and vest to steamer without too much fuss.
Plus I already had a long-sleeved springsuit. A Need, funnily enough, which served four seasons of intermittent use. But it was ready to go. The material was deteriorating so that every time I surfed I had a ring of black nylon/glue around my neck. The fabric in the derriere was one wide legged swing away from ripping open completely. Not a pretty sight.
Cue the Rippy fire sale.
A quick note on this in defence of RC: they did indeed shit the bed with their back and forth. SJ left hung out to dry. Both sides of the argument alienated.
But from what I see on the ground, Rip Curl still do a lot for grassroots surfing. Many kids around here get their first nose sticker deal through RC. I see them out and about supporting boardriders clubs, hosting events. Being part of the community. The Sasha debacle was a PR misstep, and something they will no doubt learn from. But their overall core cred is still there with me.
Anyway, on to the wetsuit itself.
You may remember I had actually put this Rip Curl wetsuit up on Marketplace to fund a board purchase. As new. With tags. Cost price plus a little extra for the obligatory online haggle. But after ten days or so the post had received no bites, and on the first cool-ish day of late summer/early Autumn I decided to wear the fucken thing instead.
It’s a beauty.
There’s a few little design issues with RC chest zips, an under-neck guard that stubbornly refuses to go over my shoulder. Zipper teeth closing in the wrong direction. Key cord that’s too thick for my key. But the thing is ridiculously warm, even as a 2mm, and within a couple of surfs it had adequately stretched into the unique undulations of my bodily contours.
Of course, the day after wearing it I copped three enquiries on Marketplace asking if it was still available. But it only took that one surf to know I had made the right decision.
That endorsement, however, comes with one caveat. Rip Curl wetsuits, while stretchy, are notoriously flaky when it comes to durability.
I shall report back in one year to see how it’s holding up.
What’s your take on long-sleeved springsuits? Do you thrill in the ultra-hip sleekness of long arms and short legs? The buttock firming qualities of the neoprene pull? Or are you a short arm steamer, meat and potatoes type of gal?
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I’ll never buy RC again whilst they sponsor a transgender to surf in competitions against women. Disgraceful.
Leaning towards a 4/3 Excel as my oldest says I’m old and soft.
Fuck wetsuits use malamute fat
Yeah I’ve heard elsewhere about Patagonia wetsuits – they can be a bit stiff. I didn’t know that was because of the fabrics, not the Yulex though. I might give one a go this year. Be good to try a new brand. Cheers Jen.
we can all wear ugg boots? thru the tunnels of carp and SB Indian caves…on an epic day? am of the earth. i’d welcome a woman…editor?
Of course not we should support disenfranchised surfers. Those extra dollars matter.
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I live in 4/3 country and you have to buy the best or you will freeze your arse off. Need and Rippy do not cut it.
Need to Yulex, I wonder what they are like..
I think I got the exact same long arm Springy as Ads, same sale. but in fat guy size of L. Can’t speak to it’s quality yet as the water is still so warm and probs will be for ages. But the early mail here seems positive, except the key thing. I plan on having it replace a full steamer whole way through winter. I reckon I can do it. If my legs get too cold, my multiyear Xcel will be busted out for another lap, it’s getting frail though.
L too. I absolutely didn’t need to wear it yet but was keen to try regardless
My hot take is that individual fit is more important than the premium vs. midrange distinction or brand vs. brand comparisons. The question is not which suit is better but which suit is better for your specific body shape.
A relatively slight difference in fit makes all the difference for warmth, comfort, rashiness, etc. Human bodies are not all the same shape, even among males who are relatively fit in the same ways from pursuing the same sport. It’s even worse for the ladies – I’ve watched my wife struggle and struggle to find a suit that fits, only to conclude she needs to fork out $$$ for a custom.
This is part of why I hate that the most economically sensible thing to do is often to buy wetsuits online when the sales hit. In order to figure out what wetsuit will be best value, you really need to try on the different options. Please don’t be one of those dickheads who tries it on instore then buys it online – support your local surfshop or it won’t be there when you need it
Agreed, fit is no1 priority. But you
need to narrow it down by brand prior, because there’s just no fucking way I’m trying on any more then 2 wetsuits that I’m not immediately going surfing in.
Worst change room experience ever!
Jeez you guys actually still go surfing
Feral wetties hit the sweet spot between stretch/warmth and price for me.
hang ten? booties and gloves not included. did these guy have an incident with explosives?
Can’t imagine forking out big money for a 2mil suit. I mean if you are wearing it the water isn’t cold to begin with. I have a needs 4/3 that I use during the early summer, it’s pretty old now (maybe 5 years at this stage). Very nice suit. I bought one of their 6/5s. It was pretty terrible, not warm, not durable and not flexible!
Most comfortable thing to surf in IMO is A 2/2 zipperless short arm steamer.
Ofcoarse I’m in boardies atm but either side of summer & even mid day winter, it’s the go to for comfort
I had the ring around the neck issue as well once with a suit. Not the best look when trying to sneak in from a mid work surf. Hard to get off too.
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Yep I’ve dialled into a few meetings not realising. Also triggered a fucked up skin reaction that briefly gave me the neck of an 80 year old
I thought it was a reaction between my sunscreen and the rubber but idk.
Once you go Feral you never go back.
No opinion on anything but the full suits, have always gone straight from boardies to a 3/2 full, guess it’s a feature of climates where we surf. Lot of time in 4/3’s and even 5/4’s, surfing with snow on the ground, ice on the windshield, etc. O’Neill and RC steady and hold up and frankly too skittish to switch and chance freezing my ass off with a trendy new competitor. Have used xcel accessories (booties, gloves) from time to time, always went back to the classics. Feet get super cold quick, so have wide variety of booties up to 7mm and those wetsuit sock things, plus the regular gloves/lobster mitts etc … can’t beat RC for the accessories, but O’Neill not far behind (although the socks are Solite — and not really worth it in my opinion, just fwiw) // but take all with grain of salt bc probably just an old dog, new wettie brands sort of situation – and way past giving a shit whether anything looks cool, give me that clearance RC 4/3 in the weird blue that no one wants, be what you see in the rearview as my toasty self drops in past your hipster ass.
Was curl forever but went off them for the bong graphite shit. Previously would never touch billabong wetsuits. But for mine are now A1 fit & flex
Curl to thick with the wool liner in the legs & their rubber goes stale before the end of winter. Maybe the mountain co new owner went for cheaper materials.
Yeah I haven’t had a bong since the old solution Gold days – which I also got cheap. Were good suits from memory. Interesting to hear
Short arm steamers are dope. Long arm steamer you look like a body boarder who has stolen his older brothers stand up
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