"All I could see was his black legs in his wetsuit. I just thought it was another guy on his phone."
A young surfer is dead after being stabbed in the neck in a Coffs Harbour beach car park minutes after wrapping up a pre-work surf yesterday.
The twenty-two-year-old surfer and stone mason was found suffering multiple stab wounds beside an orange sedan just before seven am and taken to hospital where he died.
A BeachGrit source from the area reckons a pal of his drove past the kid “but thought he was bending down to dry off.”
A local homeless man told local news he saw the surfer drive into the carpark at six.
Coffs Harbour mayor Paul Amos described the attack as “random” adding, “I like other people in Coffs Harbour do the early morning swim, have the early morning walk along the beach … and some poor person has decided to do just that and for some random reason this event has occurred.”
Yeah, it ain’t that big a surprise.
One of the darker secrets of the supposed milk-and-honey run from Sydney to Byron is how soaked so many of these supposedly happy holiday hamlets are in meth and its various cuz’s, its mesmeric pull and fascination swallowing so many souls, as well as the accompanying gun-wielding outlaw motorbike gangs and a general gangster mentality.
A crime scene has been set-up and the cops are looking for the alleged killer who, if rumours are to be believed, is a homeless ice head.
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Some people have been proud of stranger things
Derek,
Do you really think it is correct to end this with “rumours” just to stoke the comments? Stick to the facts until the actual investigators inform us who the suspects are.
Property is too fuckin expensive. Iceheads need a fuckin roof over their cunt heads too. Otherwise they’re gonna be dangerous cunts.
They love a bit of victorian Italianate filigree
“One of the darker secrets of the supposed milk-and-honey run from Sydney to Byron is how soaked so many of these supposedly happy holiday hamlets are in meth and its various cuz’s, its mesmeric pull and fascination swallowing so many souls, as well as the accompanying gun-wielding outlaw motorbike gangs and a general gangster mentality.”
such an apt description of so much of SoCal as well
I tried ice a little while back, twice.
It’s simply the most amazing drug I’ve ever used.
I felt fantastic and the only side effect was my desire to use it again.
Very strong desire, very, very strong.
I waited it out and the desire passed.
I don’t think I can do crack again.
It’s that good you can’t just hit it and run.
I’m one of the lucky ones.
Just being honest, it’s not a fucked drug, it’s the best ever!
And it doesn’t make you want knife someone.
Fuck it’s Australia!
Random mental cases knifing people everywhere.
Don’t worry about our wildlife, killer snakes and spiders and sharks.
It’s the the fucken humans that you need watching out for!
Fuckkkk .
Even just sharing my experience now has me tingling too getting on it again.
It’s amazing but fuckkkk it’s addictive.
Unbelievably addictive.
You can’t try it and not want it again!
It’s so addictive!
careful bud! sounds like a slippery slope.
Just a pipe away from joining AI forever
Damn man, try not to think about it at all if you’re tingling for it. Be thankful you never touched anything MORE addictive than that
Yeh I always enjoyed it as a party thing but made sure I only had it when I was gonna party. Melbournes always had the best drugs scene in Australia. When shit goes regional there’s no context for it.
Smoking meth and stabbing people is so hip right now.
Thanks for looking out for ice’s reputation there. It almost got a bad rap.
There a reason why people get on it and lose everything.
Rather than just try “ drugs are bad” I just told the truth.
It’s amazing and addictive as fuckkkk.
I’m understanding why it ruins so many life’s.
Think about it, why would people take it if it wasn’t a awesome high?
Rather than pretend it isn’t face the truth.
Just saying “ drugs are bad” isn’t really winning is it?
Welll… amphetamines have been around – in a myriad of forms and potency – for a very long time. Mentioned in another comment, newy was awash with bikie speed in the late 80’s early 90’s and it travelled up the coast with the smack for the underground kids… dark overlords with tatts plying the trade. So… yeah, amphetamine psychosis is hardly a new thing.
What’s new is radical inequality. House prices have pushed the lower socio-economic cohort to the margins, especially on the coast. There will always be poor people, but the distance between poor and rich is what damages the psyche. It’s the knowledge that you will never find a place in society that encourages a rejection of it.
Drugs are a very functional tool for ignoring your hopelessness, until it stops working, or you (inevitably) run out of money. Then the darkness takes hold.
There, but for the grace of [insert deity] go every single one of us
When you sit back and wax lyrical from a philosophical distance, you can come up with all sorts of valid propositions. But what about the parents? The bloke was 22. His parents have raised him through nappies, his first words, his first day at school, his first kiss, his first love, his first heartbreak, his first job…
22…he was just about to make his mark on the world. As a parent, you think your hard work’s done by then and then what? Some smacky meth junkie decides to stab him at 7am down the beach coz he’s tweaking? No theorising will ever cover the hole that’s been torn through his parents’ hearts.
Yeah and “consequence of action ” doesn’t seem to play a part in the mind of a meth head. It’s disastrous for all. Especially the victim and family.
Consequence of action doesn’t seem to play a part in people who think like Kahzi, either.
There’s a hierarchy of empathy, unless we all want to be devils.
Au contraire…
Consequence of action is precisely what I am alluding to. The societal consequences of advantage/disadvantage must be addressed. After all, there is quite a lot of modern and ancient historical precedent. The idea that the perception of inequality does not contribute to bad social outcomes is naive, at best…
An accurate “hierarchy of empathy ” must include the idea that we are all capable of being devils for it to be comprehensive.
Obviously we’re all capable of being devils.
The most fucked up people you’ll ever meet are the rich and famous, or especially their kids.
Your virtue signaling is divorced from the real world. You have no reason to believe this murderer was “disadvantaged.” You’re just obsessed with this as a narrative that explains everything. It doesn’t. Not even close.
So… let me attempt to interpret what you’re saying, here…
You have no reason to believe the murderer wasn’t disadvantaged, so your position on this is as feasible as mine.
“Virtue signalling” – as a narrative technique – includes the idea that the narrator is somehow above the fray… whereas I am purporting the opposite; I am as much a contributor to the pervasiveness of inequality as everyone else and, as such, contribute to the negative societal outcomes (like a beach carpark stabbing) that – statistically – increase in proportion to levels of inequality.
Furthermore, you completely concede that we are all capable of nefariousness, which is central to my point.
Why didn’t you just say you agree with me?
You’re obsessed with a libertarian narrative as an accurate assessment of “the real world ” . It isn’t. Not even close.
Their lives are ruined, all b/c some junkie is a junkie.
Stabbed 8 fucking times at 7 in the morning after a surf. What the fuck is wrong with this world…
See above
Kahzi is a good example of what’s wrong.
Every individual, in the end, chooses what they do with the cards they’re dealt. This murderer was dealt the same cards as a lot of people who made other choices.
Whatever can be done at the societal level, individual people will still need to make choices, unless we want to live in gulags where we live short hellish lives and die without ever having any options.
Meth users are not junkies. Heroin addicts are junkies. There’s a vast difference.
Both cause terrible damage to others, while destroying themselves.
My friend’s father who ODed in a shitty motel room at 46, my neighbor’s methhead ex who torched his house with 7 people asleep in it including her own son, both left a trail of destruction.
When you sit back and theorise about people you don’t personally know, and force a false binary on a circumstance you have no personal connection to, it sounds like you’re making it about you.
A “philosophical distance” allows for objective reasoning… which is the opposite of subjective indulgence. I grew up surfing where this guy surfed, but I know asking why this tragedy happened from a subjective perspective will not elicit answers.
Empathy is an intellectual pursuit. Sure, you get better at it as you gather more experiences, but the application of those experiences in an empathetic way requires careful calibration. And a good dose of humility.
You find that the parents of this guy are your people, and the “smacky meth junkie” is disposable filth.
Is it not possible that socio-economic inequity has contributed to the devaluation of the lives of both the victim, and the perpetrator? If the answer is yes, what could be included in the possible solution?
…see what I did there?
Any given academic will happily continue to exchange theories and arguments.
Any caring parent will tell you to fuck off.
And I wouldn’t blame them if they were grieving the loss of their son… that’s empathy.
However, as a parent, I can see how a beloved functional child could easily get lost to drugs, and as someone that also understands the pharmacological effects of amphetamine psychosis, I know that the effect commonly reduces to nothing if the consumption stops.
This leads us to the larger – philosophical and societal – problems that may have a solution if addressed in a functional, objective manner.
The problem of inequality is everyone’s responsibility. That’s why so many people choose to ignore it, or worse, are subject to it to such a degree that they stab someone at a beach carpark or, say, a Westfield’s in Bondi Junction.
Psychosis takes many forms, however the flaws and fault lines of society can direct the terrible manifestations. The government policy mindlessly favouring capital being pumped into coastal real estate, and the weird bro-culture incel misogyny found in online echo chambers can find active traction in a disturbed mind incapable of rational thought.
I could be wrong, but that’s not the point. I would only be troubled by that fact if I thought I was entitled to be right.
I’m sure all of this social justice stuff was a real comfort to this kid as he bled out in his wetsuit in the car park, and that he knew in his heart that the fact he was dying wasn’t this really junkie’s fault—it was societal inequality.
Perhaps you too will feel the same way if someone ever stabs you 8 times when you’re coming back to your car from a surf.
Oh and everyone yearns to be stabbed, prioritised against the reasoned consideration of why they may be being stabbed.
That’s your logic, here.
I find it fascinating that those attacking me seem to be unable to understand how I could feel – deeply – about the facts and circumstances of this tragedy (noting – again – that this was the stretch of coast where I learnt to surf at 9 years of age), but also examine my role in causing it as a part of society, as a whole.
My read on this is that they take offence at the latter perspective because it includes them as a part of society.
Suck it up, you intellectual cowards.
You’re the worst kind of jerkoff.
Nobody starts a meth habit without knowing what the shit does to people, in 2024.
You’re talking about him like he was a tragic suicide, not a senseless murderer who killed a guy doing nothing to him or to anyone.
Is addiction a disease? Maybe in some sense. But nobody goes to their cancer dealer to pick up some leukemia. Meth use is a choice. “Society” has done what it can to limit access to it, often to the detriment of innocent people who can’t get enough decongestant for their sick kids.
The parties you blame, well, other than incels who had nothing to do with this, may well be culpable for things, but they didn’t force him to do meth.
if you know anything about the meth crisis….it should be so many people who had never taken drugs ( country drug you could/redus neckus!) were introduced to Ice as a recreational drug where you could drink heaps of piss , but still be lucid and ahhhh the sex……then the addiction……”Society has done what it can to limit access to it”, ha , yet it’s still everywhere..
Maybe in days gone by Brutus but as NF said above, it’s 2024. Everyone knows what ice is and what ice does.
that was my point , a lot of country people , had never taken ice or any other drugs except Alcohol…….surfers have always been in contact with drugs and did a lot of pioneering of them all , so we are pretty tuned in on what drugs are dangerous/addictive as we have the experience as surfing has always had a drug culture…….but that’s just surfing!!
Yeah, growing up in Cronulla, it was alcohol, mull, eccies for the ravers or speed for the really loose ones. Meth didn’t exist. Nor did coke in the sense that everyone up the pub had a pocket full of plastic.
Now? 50 year old blokes are doing more coke than their kids, meth is destroying lives in every class structure, and alcohol is still doing what alcohol’s always done. The biggest problem I see is not the act of consumption itself, but more the effect of the drugs. Meth cause cunts to stab people 8 times at 7 in the morning and coke is draining bank accounts and killing marriages faster than infidelity could ever have hoped to from what I’m seeing in my little sub-group of mates.
It is everywhere because you can’t stop market forces from operating, just like you could get Levi’s in the Soviet Union, handguns in the London criminal underground, and hard drugs in Singapore where the death penalty is imposed for possession.
My point is that society has never signaled in any way, that meth is safe or recreational. People choose to do the stuff in a social and legal environment that tells them every day that they shouldn’t. There’s only so much anyone can do, apart from the individual who can choose to do the shit or not.
Whereever there is strong demand for anything illegal , there will be a black market.
meth/Ice is used in different medical situations in cold tablets etc…..just like morphine/fentanyl/oxy………then us humans abuse the medicine ……
I mean we just have to look at the Oxy crisis…..
Right. It seems impossible to stop this form of self destruction, except with each individual addict.
As long as people are willing to pay, the supply will exist somewhere.
Again, choice is – logically – limited by access to choices.
One of the measurable aspects of the expanded distance between poor and rich is the amount of choice. To be brutally frank, rich meth users are less likely to fall afoul of the law because of the buffer provided by their financial capacity. So, they choose to use meth, but are less likely to encounter negative consequences.
Society (if it is structurally inequitable) infers they deserve the advantages, even though the same “choice” has been made by the stabby fellow in the carpark.
Same same for mental health sufferer’s.
Men that focus on themselves as the victim (eg incels) have more to do with this discussion than “sick kids” that need “decongestant” (I mean… WTF?!)
I am sensing that there is a hierarchy of jerkoffs, and you are WAAAYYY ahead of me
He’s offering an opinion on solutions other than “make better choices”
If they’re being polite.
That’s some pretty big projectioning there tucked into some nice prose. Where you come from is irrelevant – drug/meth related crime is rampant across the world. And why the fuck would I have empathy for a bloke who stabbed a guy 8 times at 7 in the morning? Rich/poor, lucky/unlucky, with/without, you can make whatever contrasts your academic heart desires. The fact still remains a 22 year bloke with his life in front of him got a razor sharp knife plunged into him 8 times after a morning surf. So no, I have zero fucking empathy for the perpetrator.
Disposable filth? They’re your words mate, not mine.
No one would diminish the enormity of this tragedy, least of all me.
I was that 22 year old, at the same beach. That makes him relatable to my life but, importantly, it has nothing to do with the application of empathy.
Crime is rampant across the world… The ICC and the ICJ have a great deal of work to do right now, and there’s a former president in court as we speak. Tens of thousands of people are dying in Gaza and Ukraine in circumstances that fit the definition of criminal. A property developer hides in Lebanon after utilising the government sanctioned housing policy to game the system. Is it fair that 26 err 27 women have died in DV related crime this year alone?
These things can (and should) be confronted. The wonderful thing about the intellectual application of empathy is it allows you to see how you can examine your own reactions to tragedy, and objectively assess how you can confront how you may be enabling inequality in your own sphere of influence.
You have “zero fucking empathy ” for the perpetrator because you’re doing it wrong.
Yes, this murderer is disposable filth.
This comment doesn’t fit on BG, but I’m glad you shared it anyway.
Horrible to hear about. RIP
Love to his family. No one should have to deal with that. Fucken scum.
seriously fucked up!!!
RIP and prayers to the family in Perth
i’ll say it once again…
society is unravelling.
There is no political solution
To our troubled evolution.
I’m in a country that heavily criminalizes drugs–even a big sign at the airport that says if you leave to do drugs and come back and get tested you’ll still go to jail. No junkies doing junkie shit here. No guns, too. All the deterrence is run by the state by trained professionals. As a non-junkie, I don’t mind it at all. So, some political solutions do exist, this being one of a few possible pathways.
Yep, I live in Japan. Get caught with a reefer in your pocket and your life’s fucked. I love it.
Ok, wow, youve changed.
No, I still identify as male.
Probly cause you are.
Speaking of, Hot Stuff, I’ve got something poking around just for you.
Whats ur take on sting?
I like the police albums
Maybe its the tantric thing, he just comes across a bit self centered and idiotic
I was digging them today!!
Its been a while, sick players!!
Tight little unit isnt it , underrated i’d say
They got multiple grammys
you should watch “what makes this song great” by Rick Beatto. He really breaks down some of the Police songs.
There’s too much stuff on youtube, i end up going on a tangent falling into the weirdest wormholes . Mainly avoid it
Tragic for the young bloke. Sadly, as a dad to two young girls now living in Japan, the meth and the crime in Oz mean there ain’t no fucking chance in hell I’ll ever move back there. Beautiful country. The people? Gone are the days of the laid-back Aussie, she’ll be right mate, sweet.
I was back there in Sydney for a few weeks last year. First time I’d driven there in 25 years. Fuck me the road rage and aggression. Then got to the pub and the fucken aggression there… blokes from 20-50 kept disappearing into the dunnies every half hour then coming back and chewing my ear off. That’s the blokes with jobs and money. Drugs are fucken rife.
Can imagine what the blokes with no jobs or money are doing for their meth hit…stabbing poor blokes at 7am when they go for a surf. Aussie Aussie Aussie.
Well i drive in it every day and while hectic, i get waves and nods.
Youve talked it up a bit there
Can only say what I experienced mate. Stayed in North Sydney and drove to Maquarie Uni for a week – aggression and honking horns everywhere. Then drove through the city down to Cronulla on a Friday arvo, fuck me the rage along the Eastern Distributor and through the airport tunnel was off chops. Could be that you’re used to it and think it’s perfectly normal. As someone who grew up in Sydney for the first 25 years of my life, it sure as fuck wasn’t what it used to be on the roads.
Then got to Cronulla and the pub. More trips to the dunny than a nursing home!
Maybe you can’t drive for shit??
Sydney is a busy place but it’s no worse than any other big city
Yeah, when my bro comes down from Newy he rekons its pretty fuked.
Anywhere’s fucked when you’re coming from Newy
Yep, best stay right there.
Fuck you sound like a cunt of a driver
Pull up your blankey & get back to knitting those mits
Was blokes like you doing the driving. Not quite sure where I said anyone was honking their horns at me. I was just watching it all take place and wondering why the fuck everyone was so aggro. But you go on being macho.
Sydney’s fucked. Bunch of cunts asking what suburb each other lives in so they can decide if they have to kiss arse or get their arse kissed.
Right on, Moonee Ponds?
Not even close. I think it’s called money ponds nowadays.
Had a friend who observed: In Melbourne, people ask which school you went to. In Sydney, people ask you where you live. Thought it was interesting.
I reckon that used to be right. An older friend wears the fact he grew up in the Collingwood flats in the 70s as a badge of honour these days
Living in Japan has probably made you a bad driver. Driving slowly, no indicating etc – i.e. all the stuff Asians do on the road
You saw DR at the bar?!?
DR only frequents the tutti frutti bars of Bondi way. I was down Cronulla, once as equally scatty as Bondi but now equally as awash with money-obsessed fuckwits.
One of the darker secrets of the supposed milk-and-honey run from Sydney to Byron is how soaked so many of these supposedly happy holiday hamlets are in meth and its various cuz’s, its mesmeric pull and fascination swallowing so many souls, as well as the accompanying gun-wielding outlaw motorbike gangs and a general gangster mentality.
Tough carry.
Tragic, but not unexpected considering.
your tax dollars had at work making sure the streets are safe for the citizenry.
the family should sue the city of Coffs for allowing these miscreants to freely roam the streets.
At least theyre all vaxxinated!!
Cept me.
Please tell me you’ve had a vasectomy though.
It might be time to permanently leave this shit hole site if every homicide story is mostly an opportunity for some egomaniac with 4 brain cells to come here and tell us how fucking great they think they are.
Maybe you’ll get exactly what you want and end up with measles, that would REALLY own the libtards amirite???
Dont spray me with your purple rain!!!
Who’s the slightly chubby one in the profile pic who’s trying so hard to contort her stomach for appearances?
My mum.