Should You Ride Pro Model Boards?

Has there ever been a signature model surfboard that truly succeeded?

A surfboard blind taste test is an interesting notion. Great for hype. Whichever marketing head came up with it deserves a raise.

I wasn’t able to actually sit through the entire 36-ish minutes of board reviews. But that doesn’t really matter. It’s got people talking. About brands and boards and sealing wax. Why the sea is boiling hot, and whether pigs have wings.

Slightly astounding that it works so well. We all know that dialing in your boards is a fairly personalized affair. Everyone is built differently, surfs differently, approaches a wave differently. Watching an amazingly talented surfer go full blind fold while picking through a quiver is entertaining, to some. Not to me, but the internet disagrees and I can accept that just because I didn’t really enjoy something doesn’t mean it’s bad. Not always. Sometimes I’m just not into it, or I’m distracted. And I am very distracted at the moment. Can’t tear my eyes away from the presidential candidate hell-bent on destroying trust in our political process.

Not that you should trust it. Not if you’re a voter. But the people who take part are supposed to play along. At the very least they aren’t supposed to rattle sabers and threaten to jail journalists. That’s pretty scary. Really strikes at the heart of my freedom-of-speech-makes-us-better-than-you American indoctrination.

Has there ever been a signature model surfboard that truly succeeded?

(Oh yes! – Editor.)

Slater signed Surftechs were gross. Ugly boards, maybe they worked. I don’t know. Never rode one. Not many people did. Yeah, it had Kelly’s name on it, but he’ll slap that shit on anything.

NHS toyed with the idea, started Santa Cruz Surfboards, slapped Ozzie Wright and Archie’s name on a line of pop-outs. Don’t know how well that did. Didn’t see many of them in the lineup. A quick jaunt to their website shows they’ve gone missing. Only Ratboy models left. Maybe state of the art more than a decade ago, boggles the mind they think that name still sells. Maybe it does in NorCal. I don’t know. Weird shit goes on in the top half of the Golden State. Weird surf pseudo-gang rivalries and meth psychosis.

I’m not the target audience, I know that. Already know, more or less, what works for me. Only ever bought a single board straight off the rack. It was a 5’8 Xanadu, xerox of the Fireball Fish, back when those were so damn hot. It went very well. I rode it into the dust. Delamned deck and cracked fin boxes. Lost it into the 54th street jetty on a small day, finally put it in its grave.

I know I’ll never surf like Dane. I know he surfs well enough to make even the worst board look good. I know that when a high level ripper is backing off his turns, that means the board’s a bar of soap I can barely hope to stand on.

But that was pre-growth spurt. Before I gained height and weight and realized that I’ve never be a hyper-flexible grommet ever again. Before I learned to distrust anything that smacks of marketing propaganda. Before I had my heart broken when the fins for my nifty new OAM system didn’t fit in the boxes. So much sanding. So much sanding!

I know I’ll never surf like Dane. I know he surfs well enough to make even the worst board look good. I know that when a high level ripper is backing off his turns, that means the board’s a bar of soap I can barely hope to stand on.

I’ve seen oodle of doodles paddle out on Hyptos and Tomos and Dumpster Diver derivatives. Hardly ever seen someone surf well on ’em. I’ve learned firsthand why you need foam on big days. Yeah, Craig Anderson can scratch over the ledge on a 5’4″, John John’s second reef slayer is a 6’4. But that thinking will get us normal humans slaughtered. The ability gap between good surfer and pro surfer is just too damn great.

There’s something to be said for instant gratification. No need to call in and hear, “Oh, yeah, just putting on the finishing touches. It’ll be done next week.”

You said that two weeks ago.

But few people get into shaping because they feel like putting in ten-hour days. Most shapers inhabit a weird spectrum somewhere between crazy artist and mad inventor.

Yet all good things do come to those who wait. And there’s real value in having someone who will tell you, “There’s no way you can ride that,” rather than a minimum wage shop rat regurgitating media material.

“Oh, totally, dude. Best all around board on the market. Works from two feet to ten. Want to throw in a new travel bag and board sock? How about a couple sets of fins? I don’t make commission, but my boss’ll be on my ass if I don’t up-sell the shit out of you.”

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Limbless Jack
Limbless Jack
9 years ago

I own the board on the top and a surftech CI Flyer (the like 90s version). I am a big guy and those Pu etc boards just crack apart in months from my use. The pop outs never die…the pop outs will never die!

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
9 years ago
Reply to  Limbless Jack

they never do proper buried rail bottom turns either.

Rory Parker
Rory Parker
9 years ago

Especially you.

The MHL Buoy
The MHL Buoy
9 years ago
Reply to  Rory Parker

Nice chat on Lipped – as always made my ride home more entertaining.

Brutus
Brutus
9 years ago

yes , the Neck beard is still the best of all time and Dane made it , so it is greater than great!!!

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
9 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

I reckon the Neck Beard is a genuinely good shape for your average surf conditions. They glide through fat spots and are short enough to throw around easily despite their big arses. I’ve never ridden the severe chop tail one. Just the rounded square version. Mine is about 5 years old and totally fucked. It has 3 different creases and a yellow nose where water has seeped in. I’ve been getting rid of a lot of my old boards but can’t bear to part with it.

Brutus
Brutus
9 years ago

you need to get the chop tail one , best of all time!

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
9 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

Bizarre how that could work well. Spose it’s not too different to a big swallow tail.

german_surfer_007
german_surfer_007
9 years ago

Everyone who has ridden both prefers the chop.

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
9 years ago

As much as I wanna hate em, every single person I’ve seen on a Slater FireWire has been straight up ripping. Such a disappointment.

german_surfer_007
german_surfer_007
9 years ago

Come down to bondi.

throwing disqus
throwing disqus
9 years ago

They have all been training here. Interesting view.

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
9 years ago

No wonder it takes 7 minutes to clean up. I wonder how wide the production model will be?

Thruster_Truster
Thruster_Truster
9 years ago

Is that you Kelly? Mark? Chuy?

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
9 years ago

It me, Michel Bourez! Caught!

Mapski
Mapski
9 years ago

If Town and Country made the Dane Kealoha yellow board with blue and red sash (Warren Bolster photo) I would buy several.

ox-head
ox-head
9 years ago

the only signature model i’d ever bother messing with is a noll/dora da cat

Karl Von Fanningstadt
Karl Von Fanningstadt
9 years ago

Pro models for the most part are dumb for the average surfer (saw somebody bogging… er, “riding” a crappy Slater Designs just this morning). Having said that, I do have a thumbtail Fred Rubble (Conner Coffin model). It happens to be one of the better boards I’ve ever had. Based on experiences I’ve had with a shaper I used to get boards from, I no longer get boards NOT off the rack. I can’t afford to buy a dud, so I always want to see a board before I ride it.

longtom
longtom
9 years ago

(Oh yes! – Editor.)

Was ist das?

The Bitchy Crab
The Bitchy Crab
9 years ago
Reply to  longtom

Click! It’ll take you to a sig board that sells. Maybe you can buy!

longtom
longtom
9 years ago

those baby buggies with the channels look mint

The Bitchy Crab
The Bitchy Crab
9 years ago
Reply to  longtom

…wouldn’t they just run like a dream over those velvety Lenny walls…

longtom
longtom
9 years ago

yeah, except I just binge bought a new FreeFlight channel bottom and now don’t know how to tell my wife there’ll be no christmas presents for the keikis this year.
Rory must have advice on this matter.

The Bitchy Crab
The Bitchy Crab
9 years ago
Reply to  longtom

Oh, there’s so many working days until Christmas! Perhaps you cover Pipe for BeachGrit?

longtom
longtom
9 years ago

I take every green light i can get.

Brutus
Brutus
9 years ago
Reply to  longtom

you need a Neck Beard !

longtom
longtom
9 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

had one for 20 years, it’s the only beard I can grow

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
9 years ago
Reply to  longtom

6’5″ ten channel pintail single fin. It’s like owning a naturally aspirated Porsche 911 Carrera – terrifying. I got it to run out to some kind of speed about three weeks ago in a fresh 6′ south swell down here and felt the whole length of the channels kick in. The board didn’t make a sound, just released itself from the strictures of the water surface. I felt as if I were standing on the spine of a large bird in flight.

Kook of the Day
Kook of the Day
9 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

Mr. Carroll,
Would you mind sharing the rest of the dims for the magical 6’5″ ten channel pintail single fin. Or perhaps, the name and contact info for the magical shaper who shaped the magical 6’5″ ten channel pintail single fin

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
9 years ago

Sure – I don’t know that the dimensions would be much use to you really, but the board is 6’5″x187/8″x23/8″, low entry, wide point forward of centre, hard rail edge throughout, slight concave entry foiling to slight vee forward of the fin, magical shaper is Phil Myers of Free Flight [email protected]

It’s not easy to surf but then again it’s not supposed to be, if you want a board with no top end then it’s gonna challenge you. But when you get into its range, holy shit.

Kook of the Day
Kook of the Day
9 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

Thanks Nick- gonna make me one!!!!!

https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
9 years ago
longtom
longtom
9 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

yeah, I saw yours which is what put me in the frenzy to buy one.

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
9 years ago
Reply to  longtom

Goddamn, the lone Beach Grit advertisement has got me coveting one of those.

Captain Bee Fart
Captain Bee Fart
9 years ago
Reply to  longtom

I have a baby buggy (sans channels) and it goes amazing – although I ride it 7 inches and 9 litres bigger than Taj rides his….

throwing disqus
throwing disqus
9 years ago

no.

Professor Ski Lodge
Professor Ski Lodge
9 years ago

I think if I rode my Tomo Evo at Dan Thompson’s recommended sizing (small as you can go) I’d fucking hate it (unless I had Dan’s surfing ability which is way above most surfers). In the end I got one with heaps of foam and I am surfing a lot better than I have in a while. Paddling is easier, I’m catching more waves, and I’m nailing 90% of my closeout snaps (we do a lot of those around here!). When the waves a bigger, I switch to thruster setup and it can handle waves in the overhead range easily. I must admit I was skeptical but I had a chance to demo and EVO and loved it. Regardless of how bizarre Tomo’s boards look they do seem to work, for me anyway. Foam up, get your weird on, and start smiling!

Tom House
Tom House
9 years ago

I’m confused. Is this article supposed to be about pro model boards? Or buying boards off the rack?

Dogsnuts
Dogsnuts
9 years ago

Before I learned of Wardo belting his missus I started to love his Psycho Ward model, a board made for small to medium waves for a bigger guy, I am slight of build so it works out perfect, on my second one now but won’t be sourcing another.

J H
J H
9 years ago

Watching the Dane “Stab in the Dark” thing should tell us everything we need to know…the vast majority of us don’t know shit about high performance boards. Want proof…watching guys surfing decent hurricane swell here on LI this weekend and if I saw two good snap turns I damn near fell off of the boardwalk. That’s not two in a row, kids…that’s two total.

Are people out there having fun and enjoying themselves? Hell YES!

But if they claim they can tell the difference between rocker, tail design or fin set-up then, for the most part, they are full of shit.

Chas Smith
Chas Smith
9 years ago
Reply to  J H

Truer words never written. God bless us all!

german_surfer_007
german_surfer_007
9 years ago
Reply to  J H

We all know surfers from the east coast cannot do turns. I would disagree and say a flat twin fin would feel different to even a first timer compared with a rockered thruster..

J H
J H
9 years ago

As would a longboard feel different from a thruster just on basic physics. But as for “high performance” boards…90-95% of the general surfing population can’t tell the difference between two high performance boards that Kelly, Gabby, JJF, etc. surf. Like I said…the point is to have fun not try and say that you NEED a McClaren Formula 1 car for your daily commute to the office.

german_surfer_007
german_surfer_007
9 years ago
Reply to  J H

Gotta disagree. People don’t ride boards that slater and JJF use. They ride hyptos, lost rockets, mini simmons etc. would say they feel very different to a hp shortboard. I’m missing your point I guess. I dont know anyone at LB who rides a hp shorty..

J H
J H
9 years ago

My point is that basic board feel is, as you correctly state, different. But high performance is another realm completely and there aren’t many people who can surf well enough to tell the difference between them and even fewer people whose surfing would be improved by them.

Koi
Koi
9 years ago
Reply to  J H

I have fun cutting off cunts and yelling abuse in my ’98 station wagon during my daily commute… Actually thats pretty similar to in the soup as well

Preston
Preston
9 years ago
Reply to  J H

I don’t know about the rest of you but I’d rather watch 30 minutes of Dane than 90% of the WSL heats this year.

Red
Red
9 years ago
Reply to  J H

Not everyone is a kook

J H
J H
9 years ago
Reply to  Red

You sir, are offficially part of the 1%.


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