Listen: Legendary shaper Maurice Cole and the surf industry apocalypse!

Love, loss, failure and victory!

Maurice Cole has been one of my favorite surf personalities ever since I was ten years, lounging on my Coos Bay bed, gazing at his lines. Oh they were perfect. Sensual even and they fired a youthful lust that infects me to this day.

You know the poster.

And ooooooee, it still gives me shivers.

Maurice has rare charisma in this surf world. He’s not afraid to butt heads, to tell it like it is, to change the game and then change it again. He has been through multiple iterations and yet is still a visionary. It is why I was so desirous to hear his chat with David Lee Scales.

David Lee you know, of course, from the Surf Splendor Network and our biweekly chats. He has always been a wonderful host but has also developed into a crackling interviewer. He takes his craft seriously and is able to dig gold from his subjects.

Here, the two discuss tragedy and compromised integrity. Failure and stress and cancer and why publicly traded surf brands are destined for failure as soon as that IPO floats. It is a fantastic episode, well worth a listen between today’s madness.

It is the best show yet.

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Mads Naeraa
Mads Naeraa
7 years ago

Finally listened to this. Very, very good, and heart-wrenching, interview.

May many wonderful things happen for you, MC!

Luke Penguilly
Luke Penguilly
7 years ago

Interesting guy and boards. i agree with a lot of what he says. some not so much.

Mug Of Sunshine
Mug Of Sunshine
7 years ago

The comment/share ratio is interesting,,,

channelbottom
channelbottom
7 years ago

MC, will you name the shapers who cooked you? I’d rather avoid ‘em should I ever have the money to spend

EDIT: I have found the answers elsewhere.

I wish you peace in your own head.
A fragile thing, I know this myself.

Brutus
Brutus
7 years ago

WTF , hilarious , where do you dig these up from?

Jimmy the Saint
Jimmy the Saint
7 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

Great interview MC, but there was one thing that confused me. Maybe I misunderstood you but I think you said that FireWires and Slater designs were basically garbage – but that the one board you’d love to try would be a Machado Go Fish, which is a FireWire.

Brutus
Brutus
7 years ago

Hi Jimmy, what I was saying that the Slater and Firewires are very cheaply made now , the LFT glassing is very weak and a lot broken / creased/chips out of tails and noses ….and the Firewires were once bullet proof and now they seem to fall apart and break a lot easier..
I spent a week with Rob in France in October and saw the difference in personal custom boards compared with the Thai made ones , chalk and cheese…boards are shaped well but very fragile …so I think Rob’s Fishes are insane , watched him surf all kinds of waves there from 2′ …6′ barrels, impressive!

Jimmy the Saint
Jimmy the Saint
7 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

Cheers for the reply

jamesemcgowan
jamesemcgowan
7 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

Mongrelfossil yes

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago

Oh dear
Another depression story to cover years of being a dickhead.
Its getting beyond a joke these days
The old boys who went to war and saw their mates heads blow off and then came home and got on with it must think we are fucking useless!

m0rt
m0rt
7 years ago

Shit comment and which war are you talking about?

Brutus
Brutus
7 years ago

I wonder if you are talking about the USA , where now troops coming home from war have a higher suicide rate , than actual troops lost in battle , but its only PTSD and Depression…

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

Never has depression been talked about more.
And never has the suicide rate been higher.
Try not thinking about yselves for 5 minutes, maybe that would help

Brutus
Brutus
7 years ago

or never has there been so much depression , and so many suicides , sharing personal experiences is a start of the solution .
To admit there is a problem , and to be able to open a dialogue where people don’t feel they are alone or the only ones suffering from those negative voices in your head…………but I love your solution , ” try not thinking about yourselves for 5 minutes , maybe that would help?”………..is that a professional opinion, because wow that’s really deep…….?

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

I dunno what to think about those guys
If they’re suffering then I feel empathy
But they did sign up for it and seemed keen for it.
My old man had his house bombed then served in Palestine and saw his mates head shot off by Israelites
Then came home and was the sweetest guy.
seems he tucked it away at the back of his mind,but obviously were not all the same

Brutus
Brutus
7 years ago

you don’t have to think , the stats are there , they do suffer , do you understand that more US soldiers have died from suicide , after they have returned from Iraq and or Afghanistan …..than were killed in battle?
The PTSD suffered does not go away , so all the troops stationed in the Middle East , are like ticking time bombs……when does the next one go off?
To even think that because they signed up , they deserve what they get , as they are keen????
Enough already Bex!

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

I don’t mean disrespect.
But I’m not seeing results from current methods of dealing with the problem.

Brutus
Brutus
7 years ago

Bex , I know you don’t mean disrespect , but actually are you really looking to see results?
There has been a huge amount of progress made in diagnosing Depression/PTSD and how to treat the sickness .
The only reason I am still communicating with you is that hopefully you might learn about the reasons for getting a mental disease , and treatment….I think there is nothing malicious in what you say , as making fun of and denigrating people with mental ilness’s is pretty low……especially when they go public , as this is part of a healing process, but so fucken hard to put your public persona out there , especially when people are taking shots at you behind false ID’s….so …??

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

Fair nuff

91350
91350
7 years ago

Hey Bex..a lot of those guys who went to war in my time were surfers from middle class homes who couldn’t pull off the “bone spur ouchie”to get out of service to a completely bogus war.
Let alone the minorities shipped off as cannon fodder

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  91350

Life’s like that.
Its never been fair and never will be. Those conscripts got a bad hand.
If you watch the news which is really just mental torture you will see story after story of death misadventure, murder. Disease, war it’s endless misery. These days more so cause of Antisocial media
but you don’t have to watch.
And you’d have missed nothing..
My point is that we in the west have never had it so good and look at us.
Now look at the people really doing it tough and see how they still manage a smile.
You get one go at life and there’s no prizes at the end. The cemetery is testimonie to this.

Thetruth
Thetruth
7 years ago

I agree this whole I choose to be surf hero drug fuck up who would not give the average person in the street a sniff of his thongs to now I’m a broke surf hero drug fuck up that wants everyone’s support and understanding thing ie tom carroll occy kong etc is so weak as piss , i wonder what some of these folks think when they lay at night wondering how many young proper lives they fucked up with their ever so public support over decades for substance abuse.
Disgusting.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  Thetruth

Yeah look I’m just not gonna fawn over a guy that was a leading board maker but by his own admission a bit of a prick.
Seems like he had it all and fucked it up,
It wasnt really that interesting.

Thetruth
Thetruth
7 years ago

Right on

Brutus
Brutus
7 years ago
Reply to  Thetruth

haha love that trolling..: “I choose to be a surf hero drug fuck up and would not give the average person a sniff of his thongs , to now I’m a broke surf hero drug fuck that want’s everyones support and understanding ie tom carroll , Occy Kong etc is so weak as piss..”
Is that what you really got out of listening to the podcast…do you even remotely understand how many people see it different to you ( It;s obvious that you dont drink alcohol , well take drugs !) and see a journey of life of trialing and erroring …..do you even understand the amount of people who get helped by going public , how many people are helped?
If you cant be part of the solution , you are the problem!

Nick Dee
Nick Dee
7 years ago

Very good and heavy interview. Best wishes for you, Maurice.

Nick Dee
Nick Dee
7 years ago

Awesome photo: https://www.instagram.com/p…
Maurice isn’t young. Check this turn: https://www.instagram.com/p…
Occy on a MC board: https://www.instagram.com/p…
MC knows the Man: https://www.instagram.com/p…
Young & handsome: https://www.instagram.com/p…

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago
Reply to  Nick Dee

Occy looking like a Greek god and Maurice looking like his mate Australian Jesus Wayne Lynch . Fuck Maurice and Wayne , a fucking dream team . Thanks Nick .

Ando
Ando
7 years ago

The guy is a legend and has so many fascinating things to say but when he says that “it’s part of god’s plan that my wife and I are apart”, all I’m hearing is a guy who doesn’t want to deal with self-reflection or take responsibility for his own actions. Why not take his obvious analytical abilities and apply them to his relationships?
Religious cop-out.

Brutus
Brutus
7 years ago
Reply to  Ando

good to hear your expert opinion , I take full responsibility that my actions have created a lot of harm , angst and PTSD for my wife, it’s what I am doing about it that really counts , and that means ownership of the current situation , and rebuilding a better life……so no religious cop out , no blame , a bit of anger at myself , next please!!

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

That was wonderful Maurice . I followed in your footsteps and spent 20 years in the Medoc . After Sydney , and an existential breakdown at 26 and a broken elbow which finished my competitive career , I just wanted a break from crowds so Hossegor was out of the question , and up the road found something special with uncrowded waves , people , food , wine and another way to be , in another language , to see the world through a different non Anglo perspective, while having a shitload of fun and going to uni and having a continuous thirst for knowledge and new experiences . Thanks for being an inspiration for a 53 year old short boarder looking forward to standing tall, while riding short , and getting old and still causing Happy havoc .Ps loved the miklos story but please don’t tell em how good is Armagnac !Maintain the Rage for life but don’t forget to embrace the beautiful life ……fuck now I am sobbing tears as we get to the end , wonderful .

Low wide stinkbug stance
Low wide stinkbug stance
7 years ago

Now I feel bad, I once gave Maurice a bottle of wine that cost about 30 bucks and thought I was killing it.

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago

Mate as an Australian who lived in France but not in the corn growing region like where Maurice was but in the Medoc ( the North Shore of wine growing in France ) ,he is still Australian and the hardest of hardcore , and 750 ml of $30 wine at 13.5 % will get you just as happily pissed as the €1000 bottle .

Low wide stinkbug stance
Low wide stinkbug stance
7 years ago

I ran the Medoc Marathon once. Lovely place. All the wine tasted the same though, but that happens when you run 42 Km in the sun and your brain isn’t working properly. Oh and my BAC was probably 0.25%

Nick Dee
Nick Dee
7 years ago

Cool photo,here: https://www.instagram.com/p…

Tom
Tom
7 years ago

And big credit for the rawness, honesty portrayed Maurice – so good!! More guys need to open up that’s for sure. Best of luck around the family and wife!!

Nudie
Nudie
7 years ago

Fuck!!! How good was that.

Tom
Tom
7 years ago

Hit the nail on the head re WSL spruiking the environment yet pros riding 100 boards a year!!! Classic – love Maurice’s insight. Be great to hear more of him

ricmatic
ricmatic
7 years ago

Fantastic! Maurice is a great story teller.

Dee Walker
Dee Walker
7 years ago

Wow awesome. Such a great imterview and great honesty. Refreshing. All the best to you Maurice

Michael Scurr
Michael Scurr
7 years ago

Awesome surfer shaper

20 mule team
20 mule team
7 years ago

This was fantastic. Props to DLS for not shying away from tough subjects too.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
7 years ago

Right, Sold. I’m gonna visit Maurice next year and pick up a custom.

Loved the honesty and talking about the struggles we all can identify with.
When surf podcasts veer away from actual surfing my ears really perk up.

Mads Naeraa
Mads Naeraa
7 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

He’s a pleasure to order from. You’ll get 70% what you specified, and 30% what he thinks will be better (length, fin system etc included).

You see a lot of really clean surf down your way, so a Protow should serve you well.

Otto
Otto
7 years ago

Great interview Maurice. You too David. Can’t wait for DLS + Chas + Maurice podcast. I bet Maurice’s warm vocal tone will bring a soothing quality to the moment he grabs Chas by the neck.


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