Debate: Is there a link between the explosion of surf-cams and surf photographers and crowds?

Embrace change and enjoy the dance or switch off from the grid and move to that shack somewhere southwest of Ceduna?

July has been kind to the Australian east coast. First, an abnormally sustained ENE fetch peppered the Queensland/New South Wales stretch. Nothing massive, unless you were behind the rock at Snapper, but still a week of four-to-six-foot groomed lines.

North swells, you gotta love them.

Then, a series of solid pulses from the south filed in with their usual polar intensity. Combined, they’ve lit up every good spot in one way or another over the last three weeks with hardly a break between.

Plenty of waves to be had. The assault continues as your correspondent types.

But in the post-Dickensian industrial caldera that is my hometown, there have been rumbles of discontent online as a result. It’s a particularly new age problem; a first world surfing worry. And it delights with the sort of semi-detached voyeurism one feels watching two cousins kissing at a Christmas party.

Sorta my problem, but still fun to watch!

Situation: there’s a Facebook group called Local Surf Photos. It members around 4,600 people. About a dozen or so amateur photographers regularly upload their action shots. Old crew who no longer get in the water. Delightful tuck shop nannas who have picked up photography as a hobby in retirement. Average Joes who point and shoot the lineup on their smart phones and upload in real time.

On a day when the waves are on you can have 100+ photos uploaded from a fifteen-kilometre stretch of coast before the sun’s gone down. Some spots well known, others less so.

If you’re so inclined, and know which break to surf at what time, you can even be assured of having two or three good pics of yourself posted, often by the time you get home for breakfast or to the office.

If surfing’s a selfie sport, as Dave Parmenter says, this is surely its golden era.

But, as the size of the group and number of photographers has grown, so has the backlash.

Oversaturation, say the grumpy locals.

Some older, some younger. Spots shouldnt be named, they say.

Or there should be a day’s wait before uploading, at least.

On the other side of the fence are a predominantly younger generation. Many newer to the sport.

You can’t control the line up, they retort.

Localism is dead. These are public spaces. There’s no such thing as secret spots any more!

Expletive-laden, punctuation-devoid rants ensue.

Fighting on the internet is fun to watch, yes. But, like, poor grammar ‘n that aside, it’s modern life writ large: The democratisation of the internet versus its desecration of longstanding cultural norms.

It’s so easy to check the surf now.

Most spots have two, sometimes even three cams pointed at them 24/7 (hint: suss out your local surf club website). The more industrious and digitally literate of us can even do things like check recent Instagram stories from content-rich spots like Snapper, Pass, Crescent, Bondi etc to get a look at what the waves are doing behind the kawaii pouts.

We also know crowds are getting worse.

I used to look to a tree, or a flagpole, or the clouds to guess what the waves were doing. Now I just check my feed. And there’s nothing like a shot of your local doing its best Ulu’s impersonation from an hour ago to get the juices flowing. I change plans. Come up with excuses. The car’s sick and I gotta drop the baby at the mechanics. I rush back in for a forty-five-minute power session when otherwise I would have been sitting at work in semi-ignorance.

Fact. Is there a causal relationship with the explosion of surfcams and surf photographers and the number of people in the water? It’s hard to say. But there’s no doubt more lenses pointed to the horizon equals more attention on the surf.

I’m part of the problem. I pay for Swellnet Pro. I love a FB notification on where’s pumping while I’m punching keys at work. Spot a few friends getting bombs. Sometimes even my own mug.

I used to look to a tree, or a flagpole, or the clouds to guess what the waves were doing. Now I just check my feed. And there’s nothing like a shot of your local doing its best Ulu’s impersonation from an hour ago to get the juices flowing. I change plans. Come up with excuses. The car’s sick and I gotta drop the baby at the mechanics. I rush back in for a forty-five-minute power session when otherwise I would have been sitting at work in semi-ignorance.

But, I’m still a misanthrope at heart.

I scowl at unknown faces in the lineup. I cling to my low rung on the surfing ship and anybody below me trying to get on I kick square in the face. Burn the life jackets, too.

I don’t want no more surfers taking me waves.

And I know the karmic price we will ultimately pay for this life of #content #saturation we’re currently wading through will be high.

So how do I reconcile that with the perks of the digital world I so fully enjoy?

Do I embrace change and enjoy the dance?

Or switch off from the grid and move the family down to that shack somewhere southwest of Ceduna?

Yeah, fuck it. I’ll just continue the hypocrisy, extolling the virtues of a tribalist neo-luddite while feeding the beast I say I’m rallying against.

At least I’m not the only one doing it.

PS: Don’t come surf Newcastle or I’ll shit on your windscreen wipers.

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nyc surfing golden boy
nyc surfing golden boy
7 years ago

U R THE CROWD!!

this was written on a wall near my break, huge letters, so that everyone coming and going would know their place.

Ralph Wiggum
Ralph Wiggum
7 years ago

was surfing yesterday, sunday afternoon, 2pm, no one out , sun shining, chest high peelers, went out despite the GW threat in back of mind, caught some nice waves and after half an hour another guy comes out. We exchange small talk about weather and forecast, and he he tells me a story i could care less about. He tells me he walked into the weather bureau offices one day complaining how they always get it wrong, and was taken aside by a forecaster and shown how to read charts, high and low pressure systems etc.
By this time i have switched off but he keeps banging on anyway about how he can predict the track of cyclones………shut the fuck up! i think to myself as he slides further inside of me, a good size wave approaches and now he thinks it is his! As he starts paddling frantically for it all i can think of is i desperately need to get away from this wanker, so i drop in and look back but he has nose dived or something so i ride to the beach and walk up the stairs still in disbelief this lone knob head has almost ruined my surf.
No moral or context to the story but i just had to get it off my chest.

Heysoos
Heysoos
7 years ago

i hope that last line isn’t an idle threat

Stu Nettle
Stu Nettle
7 years ago

Questioning the surfer population boom. Lots of drilling, few strikes, yet not one person mentions the Wozzle? Ziff is Warbucks but he’s categorically stated that it’s a biz proposition not a charity, and the only way they can make that sucker profitable is by significantly increasing global surfer numbers. This has been their MO from the very beginning, ramp up the “hand raisers” and realise the potential of the surfing population.

I did some articles a while ago to show the shortfall, the Wozzle subsequently hid the numbers, but I’m not so confident now. Maybe the live viewers are still slim, but hows about the new lifestylers, the Murfers, the frequenters of Surfing’s Definitive something something, the longboard sistas, the #VanLyfers, all those grateful recipients of the nu surfing culture – drug free, pledging their wokeness – brought to you by the Wozzle and their insidious social media tentacles. Three-point-something million followers on a hyperactive Insta account, can’t be fucked looking up the rest.

The mags are gone or on defib, websites put up paywalls to survive (and in doing so cut the numbers), podcasts irregular, indy social accounts a lone piss in the sewer works. Make no mistake, the Wozzle own surfing™ now, and their purview runs far beyond contests.

But what about those contests, eh? The Wozzle have got designs on the whole cultural shitshow but the comps are the core. Without them they’re nowt. So knowing their boosterism, their part in the whole overcrowding epidemic, who is tuning out?

Yeah, me neither.

And OK, call it passing the buck but that’s what us battlers do.

@surfads
@surfads
7 years ago
Reply to  Stu Nettle

No need to pass the buck. No single factor is at fault. It’s all an inevitability. And I’m glad my $8 a month is going to you.

The MHL Buoy
The MHL Buoy
7 years ago
Reply to  @surfads

#MeToo

John Wayne
John Wayne
7 years ago
Reply to  Stu Nettle

but hows about the new lifestylers, the Murfers, the frequenters of Surfing’s Definitive something something, the longboard sistas, the #VanLyfers, all those grateful recipients of the nu surfing culture who have no idea how to read a weather map, wind conditions or buoys…….but are experts at looking at live cameras and then sharing their findings online with all their mates?

bruddah
bruddah
7 years ago

Democracy too!

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago

The most beautiful moment in surf forecasting is actually when they get it wrong . I was often flabbergasted when for some reason half the population of Bordeaux did not turn up at my old spot on a nice 2 to 3ft day because the internet had told them all that it was FLAT ! It is possible that there was some type of technical problem or Artificial Intelligence has finally discovered , like Germany , a sense of HUMOUR ?

MeatyInvincible
MeatyInvincible
7 years ago

I remember calling an old pre-recorded telephone surf report and the local guy said 2 hours up the coast was flat with nothing doing. I was going that way anyway so stopped in for a look…PUMPING!….2 guys out…probably surf reporter and his mate.

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago

For 20 years I lived 300m from the beach ,in a town , population of 100 Souls in Winter , with 25 km of swell exposed coastline with no coast road . I had no phone , mobile phone or internet . Everyday , like Ground Hog Day , I woke up , checked the tide chart , checked the surf and then waited for best moment , usually on the incoming tide , when possible , to hit it , 20 minutes before it turned on ….and still got SKUNKED…. often .

Superworm
Superworm
7 years ago

Get with the times Surfads. Geotagging is the current worst thing happening to surfing/hunting/fishing/camping/anything you enjoy doing on your own

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago

She should have some fun at some stage for sure.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago

Go the fuken sea eagles!
Yeeeeooooww!,,

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago

Storm in a tea cup ?

@surfads
@surfads
7 years ago

Knights are gonna get obliterated next week at Lottoland. At least it’s looking like Tommy Turbo will be out

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago

I posted this the other day but it is much more relevant to this article

https://disq.us/url?url=htt…

Karl Myers
Karl Myers
7 years ago

Been surfing the So Cal coast since the 80’s. Its always been crowded here, but the reports/cams seem to have increased it. The real factor is population increase. One side benefit of the surf reports is when they get the forecast wrong (under-estimate or mis-time a swell, botch the wind, etc.) it seems that many people simply rely on the report and it can actually be less crowded during those rare but wonderful moments

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago
Reply to  Karl Myers

Exactly Karl M . Sorry I hadn’t seen your post before I posted something similar . When I am back in Sydney I pray for rain and sideshore winds from the South which usually keeps away the SMATTERERS

Definition : smatterer. n. “one who has but slight or superficial knowledge,” 1510s, agent noun from smatter (v.).

A wonderful term used by Isaac Newton discussing his Master Work ,Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica,

Newton told his readers that he had originally written those parts of the book for a popular audience. But in the end, he said, he recast it “into the form of Propositions (in the mathematical way).” Why? Because, as Newton later wrote to a friend, he wanted “to avoid being baited by little Smatterers in Mathematicks.”

german_surfer_007
german_surfer_007
7 years ago

Or when a well known surfer posts a photo on instagram and people name the spot in the comments with no other text.

Or when someone visits a little known surf area for a week, make a youtube vlog showing great waves and describe how good it is, where to stay, how to get there etc. It’s mesmerising.

I guess we can consider ourselves lucky that the ocean is not an acid pit just yet.

channelbottom
channelbottom
7 years ago

That last day I surfed, what, 2 months ago? or something. Some fucking shithead came round the point on one of those jet-ski boards.
Horrible loud annoying thing.

I’m afraid I literally shouted “Oi! FuckOFF!!!”. With thumb-pointing over my shoulder etc.

He did in fact fuck off down south, but it was too late, my aura-vibe-crystals were soured.

The Apocalypse is nigh.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  channelbottom

Apocalypse now surfers were ripping on logs with buullets all round em
So…

channelbottom
channelbottom
7 years ago

Yeah but Jerry don’t surf.

Gerry does, but he’s getting too stiff to crouch in the Nocean.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  channelbottom

Charlie
Does surf
Pretty good here in typhoon season.
https://youtu.be/WhS3ukqJ1pg

channelbottom
channelbottom
7 years ago

Yeah I fucked up that quote.

Return of the Samsung Board
Return of the Samsung Board
7 years ago
Reply to  channelbottom

I just liked the Gerry at the pool reference

channelbottom
channelbottom
7 years ago

I kinda had some logic in there somewhere.
Am off my aquatic snarking game. I’ll try to dial it back in.

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago

Charlie Ex Machina / Medina … I am on Cloud 9 ? Like my mate Speg who had a win there and used the money to get a new set of teeth in Thailand ….

Dogsnuts
Dogsnuts
7 years ago

Drone and spray paint. Done.

Antipodes
Antipodes
7 years ago
Reply to  Dogsnuts

Or maybe something a bit more permanent; https://www.youtube.com/wat…

velobwoy
velobwoy
7 years ago
Reply to  Antipodes

Fuuuck

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
7 years ago

Only slightly related, but you’d think in this generation of everyone having a camera in their hands 24/7 UFO sightings would’ve increased? Maybe everyone is just too busy taking photos of the ocean?

John Wayne
John Wayne
7 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

And increased shark sightings as more people move to the coast and have increased leisure time.

@surfads
@surfads
7 years ago
Reply to  John Wayne

That’s definitely happening. Fucken drones. Though they could work in our favour

Les Grossman
Les Grossman
7 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

No, everyone is too busy taking photos of themselves

Mads Naeraa
Mads Naeraa
7 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

On an entirely different note: are you surfed out, Negs? What a bloody swell!

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
7 years ago
Reply to  Mads Naeraa

Nursing an injury for the last couple of weeks, so no…
I can still hear it now though, it’s just not backing off. Mostly to big for the breaks around here with the direction.
Up there pumping?

Mads Naeraa
Mads Naeraa
7 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

Sorry to hear.
Nothing in town. Elsewhere, very much so.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago

He breaks waves in half
https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago

Lovely to see Long Tom on shorter thicker equipment ….

Antipodes
Antipodes
7 years ago

From a surf perspective the Newy region has a lot of pretty fun waves. Surely the answer is to get in your car for 20 minutes to hunt an empty peak? That is unless you’re an insta famous mid level surf influencer and you need to get fresh content for your followers.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  Antipodes

Birdie beach
Never a crowd
For obvious reasons.
Had some great solos there
Lots of admirers too

Tom
Tom
7 years ago

Stay up north end with admirers

James Bickerton
James Bickerton
7 years ago

Les Culs Nus Castle . …… NN has Noodles . Birdie has Bex Nudelles . It’s good to be the Rex Bex

https://youtu.be/8z8SpgmF0sA

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
7 years ago
Reply to  Antipodes

Are you saying Surfads is insta famous mid level surf influencer?

Antipodes
Antipodes
7 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

Not sure,could be, but I wouldn’t know as I hate instagram.

John Wayne
John Wayne
7 years ago
Reply to  Antipodes

its more like 40 mins these days

lorne
lorne
7 years ago

The Dave Anderson early report when he very clearly hasn’t left his house yet is what it’s all about.

@surfads
@surfads
7 years ago
Reply to  lorne

RIP Peztronic

John Wayne
John Wayne
7 years ago
Reply to  lorne

At least he does a good ding repair.

@surfads
@surfads
7 years ago
Reply to  John Wayne

Just don’t get him to colour match

lorne
lorne
7 years ago
Reply to  John Wayne

unless there’s colour involved

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago

Good movie!
I liked the scene where she’s smoking crack in the bathroom and tells her dad to fuk off!
I watched it 3times while flying syd to Buenos A.
Apropriate viewing.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
7 years ago

What movie is that Bex? I am intrigued, but a tad worried about your “taste” in such things…

John Wayne
John Wayne
7 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON
Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

Don’t worry
Tastes good

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
7 years ago

If the surf cams are exploding
What’s the problem?


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