"They say truth fears no challenge. And science is constantly changing and being updated.”
The eleven-time world champion Kelly Slater has stuck his lance into the monster skull that is the Neil Young v Joe Rogan imbroglio, amassing an astonishing 4188 likes and a couple hundred replies on a comment below Rogan’s explanatory post.
“Love to see you offer to bring Neil Young and/or Joni Mitchell on with whomever they want by their side to refute whatever it is they’re so pissed about,” wrote Kelly. “If they’re for truth it should be an easy convo. I’ll be looking forward to their replies.”
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Slater, who turns fifty in two weeks, took on dissenters with characteristic verve, resting his size thirteen feet on their necks.
To Ben, from Ireland, with four hundred followers, who replied, “If your solo purpose is to get Neil or Joni in on the shore to try and catch them out or make a fool of them then that’s pretty low,” Slater writes,
“The whole point of this is to make Joe look like a fool yet providing no proof to counter him. So it’s somewhat ironic and misguided. Cancel culture wants to control that which it disagrees with instead of having a civil disagreement and good conversation to come to some middle ground. If you’re going to make such a big stink in life about any topic you’d better be able to back it up. But those who scream the loudest often have the most to learn.”
To other posters Slater gives a lovely smile for the camera and delivers the coup de grâce.
“Blocking freedom of speech is a very scary precedent. They say truth fears no challenge. And science is constantly changing and being updated.”
“When the populace start calling for censoring of debate (in which narratives continue to change and ‘facts’ continue to be proven wrong) in order to shut down dissent, we are no longer in a democracy and the people have been conditioned to do the government’s dirty work.”
Is American democracy at its nadir, as Slater suggests, or at an apotheosis, social media and YouTube/music stream platforms an unofficial though wildly effective voting tool?
I vote for the latter.
People who use fancy words aren’t always stupid:]
People parsing censorship with 1A are (intentionally) missing the point.
Censorship happens all the time; that gov’t is proscribed by the Constitution (which Joe and Democrats ignore) does not give a pass for influencers’ and institutions’ (possibly co-ordinated) attempts to silence voices…especially on illegitimate grounds of “mis/disinformation.”
Military firepower aside, Google now is more powerful than any gov’t in the world…except probably CCP. That should scare the sin out of you…
two braindead jocks are arguing with a burnout 75 year old hippie. why on earth would anyone care what these goofballs think about medical technologies?
i’ll listen to slater talk about surfing. i’ll listen to rogan talk about mma. i’ll listen to young talk about guitars. i truly don’t want to hear what any of them think about vaccines.
God forbid Joe actually puts the fully qualifed experts on first then the fruitloops….but nooooo!
Grifters are the Mother Theresas of the 21st century. So much to give…and take?
I would like to see all these “freedom of speech” warriors go yell Bomb at the airport security check-in and see what happens. Then when they get thrown to the ground claim freedom of speech. Spewing dangerous information to a wide audience is no different hence Niels position and this whole issue with Rogan. He’s only interviewed people with views that align with his and his listeners for absolute confirmation bias. Get real medical doctors that aren’t already surrounded by controversy and interview them.
Stand for Freedom.
We are in the middle of our own genocide, perpetrated by criminally insane monsters. Get a couple more good sessions in and prepare to die or fight back with whatever you’ve got.
An old homophobic has-been, a never was who thinks she’s a black man and the brainless hoard who can’t handle when a man interviews two experts on a subject when they go against the views they have been trained to believe that are their own.
To them, reality is a bad place and something to avoid and anything that reminds them of reality and rational thought should be canceled in their mind.
I used to work for one of the people in the Bro-out podcast circle before he started doing that. Won’t name who but it’s someone in the Rogan, Peterson, Jocko realm. They all know each other and also know they’re making BANK by fomenting anti-woke-rage via middle brow “intellectual” wankery.
There is a solution for everything (all the world’s problems): Select a random group of citizens (500 or so) with no invested interest (money, career, likes, ratings) to fully investigate any divisive issue, come to a decision and pass it into law. Once finished they are paid well and dismissed to return to their lives.
Why do you think we have juries folks? Imagine the horror show if we elected our juries?
Argument: imagine if these jurors were somehow corruptly paid off
Rebuttal: far better the chance of corruption than the absolute guarantee we have now. Better that some random gets away with it than the same old politicians.
Juries random selection is the single most democratic institution left to us. This is, of course, swiftly negated by the the dark ‘art’ of jury selection in which opposing lawyers seek to stack the deck in their clients favor. Nothing is sacred.
Law by an un-selected jury my friends.. (maybe even you) it is the only way.
Lesson here is as old as time-Observe the obvious: it’s all just about divide and conquer. Method: simply divide the populace with hot butten topics (ie: covid, abortion, gay rights right v left, etc.) and they will proceed to fight amongst themselves. Meanwhile the (more) urgent issues (such as the general corruption of politicians) skate right by us. We lose focus, we ALL lose. That is the game.
Question: is it hard to find a corrupt pharmacy company or scientist? How about a shock jock on the take or stupid surfer?
Wise up or enjoy the endless merry go round people.
Slater, you’ve hit your head at least one time to many. Your gonna be 50 in a couple of weeks. At that age you should have gain some wisdom. The pandemic is real. The vaccines work. Take it. Relate it to your surfing is it real or is it
Imagined. 11 time champion. Not 12. No vaccination no surfing, as simple as that.
Not qualified to be taken seriously!
“It’s either him or us! Trust the government!”
Um, yeah, No.
The baldies are rising together: Rogain, (c)Rock and The fonz himself, Slaaaaaater.
Listen up!!! The guy who rides a plank on water has something to say about truth/disinformation!!!
Yeah, we should have had all the correct answers from the get go about something we’ve never seen before and should know exactly what to do – got it. No wonder this turned into a clusterfuck.
Nice Science reference….when you don’t even believe in Science….what a dipshit
People are pretty stupid these days and are contributing to their own difficulties in society as we speak. I blame social media it should be made to mimick real life interactions by having personal information attached to the person. That would limit the uncontrolled outspokenness that people have. We can clearly see that people need to be controlled on some level because social media has spiraled into a chaotic state with stupid people being rewarded for their ignorance online. And yes the govt is just using this to cleverly censor people with their own permission. People are just really stupid and confident at the same time
Fuck.
Reading this comment section is worse than listening to Ke11y on the Joe Rogan Show, while standing in line for my 3rd jab.
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