The queen, king?, of shred, Stephanie Gilmore. | Photo: ASP

Push to integrate men’s and women’s surfing grows as left-leaning journal reveals,”Separating sports by sex doesn’t make sense” and “Genz Zers reject a strict gender binary!”

A brave and beautiful new world.

One thing I learned having a daughter that surfed was, until a certain age, there wasn’t much that separated the sexes.

Girls, although wildly outnumbered, regularly won contests and demonstrated the same stratospheric improvement in skills groms get from long days spent in the ocean, free of the need to work or tend to kids etc. 

Then, around twelve, the girls split into their div and the boys into theirs. And, what happened when the genders were divided was the boys continue to improve, due, largely, to the volume of boys surfing. 

Meaning if there’s fifty boys in the boardriders club, a few of ‘em are going to be preternaturally talent, whereas if there’s six or eight girls, it’s way less likely.

Ergo, competition brings out the skill, not a little extra muscle and  weight. 

If Stephanie Gilmore had gone through the men’s system, boys junior events, the men’s qualifying series, you think she wouldn’t be a level above even what she is now? 

Anyway, I ain’t sure about other sports, MMA, boxing, swimming, football and so on, muscle and power count for everything there, but The Atlantic’s Maggie Mertens argues we gotta smash the gender binary in her (guessing the pronoun here) story, “Separating Sports by Sex Doesn’t Make Sense”. 

 “Gen Zers are more likely than members of previous generations to reject a strict gender binary altogether,” she writes. “Maintaining this binary in youth sports reinforces the idea that boys are inherently bigger, faster, and stronger than girls in a competitive setting—a notion that’s been challenged by scientists for years.”

And, 

“Though sex differences in sports show advantages for men, researchers today still don’t know how much of this to attribute to biological difference versus the lack of support provided to women athletes to reach their highest potential.” 

Where do you stand?

Binary, non-binary or do you,  like I, enjoy any kind of sugar in your bowl?

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tim_nelsen
tim_nelsen
4 years ago

10.8…winner? 10.3!

tim_nelsen
tim_nelsen
4 years ago

East Coast Championships paddle battle…(photo: Dick Meseroll)
Or, what Kelly vs Layne would look like in their youth!

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx….

Capt Sensible
Capt Sensible
4 years ago

Yawn

Picard Madeoff
Picard Madeoff
4 years ago

After this weekend I will try to only surf weekdays. No joy with the crowds…

Manuka
Manuka
4 years ago

I don’t use sugar.

tim_nelsen
tim_nelsen
4 years ago
Reply to  Manuka

more menu items and the push for egality disclaimer…
https://i.postimg.cc/hj1Fjr…

Dovakin
Dovakin
4 years ago

I’m as left-wing as it gets, but this whole thing is insanity.

Picard Madeoff
Picard Madeoff
4 years ago

Shit were you at Doheny this weekend when the my wife, aka the enforcer was hitting or getting hit on almost every wave? My oldest gave her shit and said if she was a guy she would have lost teeth for her aggressive efforts

Picard Madeoff
Picard Madeoff
4 years ago

So is Sasha

Picard Madeoff
Picard Madeoff
4 years ago

We watched both of our boys play coed soccer until about age 6 or 7 and the girls were decidedly more coordinated and skilled up until 7 or 8sh. BUT when the boys began to leverage typical boy dynamics like physicality the game changed. So at least in soccer had the girls kept playing with the boys they would likely develop the physicality traits the boys exhibited but I suspect many girls would have left the sport due to that physicality. So I believe in the gender separation as I’ve watched a generation of girls thrive, via confidence from athletics and other dynamics, in the business world due to confidence built throughout childhood.

Now in ski racing, a sport my boys were engaged in from 6 on, the separation on the race course was obvious even though the kids trained and free skied together. No knock on girls or women but certain physiological traits are obvious so I don’t see a fair playing field if sports combine gender.

tim_nelsen
tim_nelsen
4 years ago
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Picard Madeoff
Picard Madeoff
3 years ago
Reply to  tim_nelsen

Finally took a close look at the pic, she is an atomic talent!

Sean Connery
Sean Connery
4 years ago

If only she had gone through the men’s system. Maybe she could go left.

Working Class Hero
Working Class Hero
4 years ago

My wife is a great wrestler, she’s always competed with the boys.

J H
J H
4 years ago

So are the wxmxn.

J H
J H
4 years ago

You know that feminism has come full circle when women are willing to banish themselves to obscurity in order to deny basic biology.

Great work, Non-Binary Carbon Based Life Forms™️.

TJBurke
TJBurke
4 years ago

Erin Brooks and Caity Simmers would win every U16 Boys and U18 Men’s event they enter.

J H
J H
4 years ago
Reply to  TJBurke

And a boys high school soccer team smoked angry Megan Rapinoe and the lesser paid women’s national soccer team.

#biologymatters

TJBurke
TJBurke
4 years ago
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Corey Webster
Corey Webster
4 years ago

Erin Brooks just got 4th in the mens Rip Curl Pro at Padang Padang.

Eesha Williams
Eesha Williams
4 years ago
Reply to  Corey Webster

and Toledo did zero airs at Trestles

Corey Webster
Corey Webster
4 years ago
Reply to  Eesha Williams

Recently I saw Brooks surf a wave faster than I’d ever seen anyone surf before. Honestly, I thought I was tripping. Then I realized I was definitely tripping, simply because that was the fastest I’d ever seen someone surf.

Picard Madeoff
Picard Madeoff
4 years ago
Reply to  Corey Webster

Send me a link to Brooks fast surfing, I’ll trip while watching the video and report back

Corey Webster
Corey Webster
4 years ago
Reply to  Picard Madeoff

No video, just happened to be at the beach when she showed up. If you can find her Padang cup contest footage, it’s impressive.

Ceej
Ceej
4 years ago

I can’t think of a better sport to test it out! Watching surf aggression is boring–the hungriest surfer snapping turns off the lip to hit as many paddlers with spray as he is able. Makes me hate the sport just thinking about it. The only thing worse is watching pro women do the same in comps. They’re worse at it and they wipe out trying more often.

But have you ever seen Leah Dawson on a wave? I surfed at the surf ranch with her and watched her all day–it changed how I think of surfing altogether. Good luck finding men
who can match her in style points. And I’m sure if the sport were opened up to finding new ways to judge a ride, we’d see some more soulful beauty from the likes of Carissa Moore and Tyler Wright that would shock and surprise.

Ignorant leftists notwithstanding, the world is our oyster. Let’s try it. In 20 years we may have some worthwhile pearls.

JOB's second chin
JOB's second chin
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceej

I’ve had the pleasure of surfing with all three of those ladies and would happily do so again. The men’s CT is full of wave-hogging and drop-in happy cunts. At least the ladies learnt some manners along the way.

guest
guest
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceej

first comment after many years of observation here. if this dude doesnt get ridiculed soon I will never come to this website again. thanks in advance.

tim_nelsen
tim_nelsen
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceej

Ignorant leftists notwithstanding, the world is our oyster. Let’s try it. In 20 years we may have some worthwhile pearls.

I can’t think of a better sport to test it out! Watching surf
aggression is boring–the hungriest surfer snapping turns off the lip to
hit as many paddlers with spray as he is able. Makes me hate the sport
just thinking about it. The only thing worse is watching pro women do
the same in comps. They’re worse at it and they wipe out trying more
often.

But have you ever seen Leah Dawson on a wave? I surfed at
the surf ranch with her and watched her all day–it changed how I think
of surfing altogether. Good luck finding men
who can match her in
style points. And I’m sure if the sport were opened up to finding new
ways to judge a ride, we’d see some more soulful beauty from the likes
of Carissa Moore and Tyler Wright that would shock and surprise.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
4 years ago

And the chicks with inside out pussies?
So non bonery.

toofattosurf
toofattosurf
4 years ago

you reckon sasha developed legit sammich making skills already?

MoMoneyNoMoney98
MoMoneyNoMoney98
4 years ago

I don’t understand how any of you left wingers think this could be a good idea? Why would you even want your daughter competing against boys? So ignorant! I guarantee you if you asked any CT female surfer they would say no way would they wanna go against the boys! If they do, they know deep down they really don’t, they just want to be tough. That I admire!

toofattosurf
toofattosurf
4 years ago

talked like a real girl, you on the right way boy…

munnstrosity
munnstrosity
4 years ago

Actually (real) researchers do know. Biology makes all the difference after around 13 years of age, especially in sports where muscle strength is an advantage. Sports like figure skating and boogie boarding, not so much.

Dogsnuts
Dogsnuts
4 years ago
Reply to  munnstrosity

Riding a lid is fucking hard, especially when you have to tell you parents that…..

Gumby's Left Nut
Gumby's Left Nut
4 years ago
Reply to  Dogsnuts

That’s why it’s so much easier being black.

Dogsnuts
Dogsnuts
4 years ago

‘Cause no one will fuck with you?

Wildcambodia
Wildcambodia
4 years ago

been feeling this for years. Lets do it


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