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Andy Irons (pictured) in Filipe Toledo's nightmare.
Andy Irons (pictured) in Filipe Toledo's nightmare.

Surfer Magazine bot short circuits, compares Filipe Toledo to Andy Irons in wild diatribe against “dark recesses of surf world”

Truly bizarre.

Artificial intelligence, as you certainly know, is an evolving tool. It sits there, “learning” etc. Sorting out what this “human experience” is then regurgitating its version back into the public space to be sampled by real boys and girls. Its takes are often very weird as wires get crossed or short circuit altogether in an attempt to understand the complexity and absurdity and fifty shades of grey.

And the poor beleaguered Surfer Magazine robot. It was quietly introduced to us as soon as the once-proud title was acquired by The Arena Group and rolled out Emily Morgan. Those bits and bytes were lightly charming, “penning” stories on our saltwater lifestyle from the shadows of Tennessee’s Smoky Mountains. When it tried “writing” for The Arena Group’s other title Sports Illustrated, though, all hell broke loose. The company’s stock tanked, the CEO lost his job and tears were shed.

Well, the Surfer bot limped back to this backwater and, today, unleashed a wildly misguided comparison between Filipe Toledo and his public fear with Andy Irons.

A sampling:

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Filipe Toledo’s decision to withdraw from the Pipe Pro has been met by a storm of negative press around the surfing world. Seemingly before the Championship Tour season even started, the knives were out for the back-to-back world champion. Unsubstantiated claims that he was scared of Pipe have been volleyed at him without any real understanding of either the man’s physical or mental health status.

It’s unfair, but sadly, for whatever reason, dark recesses of the surf world often speak without knowing and act without empathy. It’s very reminiscent to what three-time world champion Andy Irons experienced, especially when he was at the height of his power. While today Andy is hailed as a lost legend, an icon of the sport gone too soon, that was hardly the case when he was with us.

The bot goes on to share long stories about how it “hung out” with Irons in Mexico and witnessed fans demanding impossible demands before pivoting back to its “time spent” with Toledo ending with, “Filipe finished the Championship Tour ranked first in the world, he would have been the world champion if the season had ended at Pipe or Lowers because he’s a freakishly talented surfer and a competitive animal. Filipe’s not just a pro surfer or world champ. He’s a father. He’s a husband. He’s a son. He’s a friend. He’s a surfer just like you and me. He should be given the respect he deserves for those things alone. We all should be.”

“We” all should be?

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A bald-faced attempt at non-sentient inclusion in the growing identity tree. Also, patently false. Humans aren’t owed respect. Kindness, consideration, forgiveness? Yes. Respect? That is earned.

At the end, and this should go without writing, Andy Irons and Filipe Toledo’s situations are so disparate that it boggles how the robot wove them together.

Strange days.

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tim_nelsen

howz it? “hung out” with Irons in Mexico… https://doyouremember.com/w…

Low wide stinkbug stance

Notwithstanding that the Surfer article is shit, how convenient for you to “forget” that you have met Jake Howard in person Chas. After all, he was there at the Surf Ranch when you uploaded your famous video showing off all your mad skills on the board. It’s pretty easy to work out that Jake Howard is a real person if you just google him.

I mean there is a story there waiting to be written (is there a bot impersonating real people?) Is the world’s last “surf journalist” going to research it?

More as the story develops.

davidcarson

jakes a good writer. nice to see surfer stepping back up a bit.
even if Chas was correct, the thinking is that anything written by a human, is better written than if it was ai? hmmmmm
btw all the great surf photographers working when there was only film, said they would never switch to digital . until they did.
‘the times they are a changin’ -t.swift

tim_nelsen

Dave go long…keep going…I’l fake it ya and fwd to Jake…beach flag football o’er territory. nice post.

Sam George’s Hair

Clearly the burn is calling Jake, the writer of this poorly crafted article, an AI Bot. Maybe he can have a write off with the Surf Splendor YouTube Bot. After reading the Surfer article, my money is the Surf Splendor AI bot.

Sellme fitzgobbins

Maybe the wolfpak can take fil under its wing? He already has enough tough lion stickers. Rack em up brah!

Capt Sensible

AI was also on the charging dust …

tim_nelsen

I sent a letter to Surfer asking to be considered for a blog spot, citing all my experience in Srfvival and successfully picking winners…“Dane, Thanks so much for your cover letter and resume regarding our bot blog position. While your fantasy surfing experience
is impressive, I regret to inform you that we have decided to go in a different direction. I hear the The Inertia may have an opening — you look to be a perfect fit for them. Or maybe BeachGrit. Thanks again. Sincerely — Emily.” The reply letter read.

Sup Braj

Dude you’re funny

tim_nelsen

catchup/

Otto

Driver: “I’m surf journalisming!”

https://x.com/FiSurgi/statu…

Sellme fitzgobbins

at least he hadnt started masterbating …

Otto

Ha! He looked pretty convinced he’d found the g spot

Tomas' silky smooth arms

‘…dark recesses of the surf world..’ That’s directed at us right?

Shane Durian

Oh definitely. And yet I had a quick look over at the Inertia before and the comments about SJL over there were, if you can believe it, not only less funny and original but more abusive and wrong-headed. And no-one was clapping back at the anti-trans talk, unlike here where there was a healthy bit of debate going on

This is a dank corner, sure, but it is lit by uncommon wit and diversity of thought. Long live BG

janeausten

Bravo on your avatar, Shane. I once had a durian flavoured ice cream. Once is enough.

Andy C

Fucken hope so!

Shane Durian

Good to see AI sticking up for AI.

Also, here are some words from FT himself that seem pertinent:

“As I said, the mental is in charge. I think that if our head is good, everything around will be good. So obviously I can be as well prepared physically but if I’m not prepared mentally I won’t be able to put this in and out of the water.” (Peace&Power EP1)

His head not good. He not able to put this in the water.

4Oceans

Phillip Delldeeleo deserves respect, same as Op and Surfer Bot Inertia…or whatever 😴

Beef & Beer

Odd
Very Odd

Kama'aina

It’s like everyone has forgotten that sports fans spend their time talking shit on every top pro that blows it no matter what the sport. Surfers only were down on Andy when he was a dick or not able to be himself due to drugs. But even after everything AI is and will always be one of our favorites. All Filipe needs to do for us to support him is to be honest with us instead of making up reasons he doesn’t need to impress us in real surf. And then just try to get better at showing up in real surf. He should go down as one of the best of all time if he just puts some effort into growing some balls in Hawaii. I don’t think anyone is saying he needs to be #1 in Hawaii. He can be dead last, but only if he charges and shows he cares enough to try hard. None of the tour surfers deserve our support. They can earn it with each surf. The ones that have had that mentality are our heroes.

Otto

That’s gonna require Filipe cover that Lyin’ Hearted ink.

Leosurf1

What we’re seeing now honestly appears scripted. Like a bunch of suit and tie non surfers got around a table and and decided on a plan to ruin the sport by making trestles the venue to crown world champions even though the vast majority of spectators and surfers alike prefer watching contests in big powerful barreling waves. Waves of consequence for a contest are much harder to rig and you can’t lower the general interest in the sport that way… Andy Irons was peak Surfing Machismo. The situation now with Flip pulling back while Fifty year old veterans dominate macking Chopes just makes actual surfers cringe. Personally I have much more respect for Eli Hanneman than Felipe just because he’s also a little guy who’s had to deal with the world of flex that is pipeline.

Low wide stinkbug stance

I absolutely loved watching Irons surf. He was so radical and far better style than Slater. I would have loved to have seen him on today’s sub 6 foot surfboards and see what he could do. But it’s not possible to watch Blue Horizon without thinking “this guy is a massive cock head”. Maybe the drugs had got to him by then, i’m not sure. I suspect he was always that way and drugs just made it worse (the Aussie surf press hated him when he burst on the scene riding for MCD because he was obnoxious). But there have been lots of famous sportspeople who are cockheads. Doesn’t mean they weren’t fucking good at what they did.

I just reckon Toledo should have owned it and just posted “got some things i’m dealing with right now, my head was not in it today. Congrats to the other guys”. Leave it like that and we can speculate whether he shat himself, or is busting up with the missus, or got a sick relo (or whatever). The dust would settle (except for Chas posting shit about him) and he could regroup for Sunset and probably do really well there.

I remember when Todd Holland and Mike Parsons had reputations as fairly soft small wave surfers who weren’t really that good. And then they came out and charged some really heavy waves in Hawaii. Even the oft-derided Damian Hardman got himself a helmet and started taking off deep at pipe. No one expects Toledo to do a Slater and go from small wave wizard to triple crown champion. But as world champ, surely can throw himself over the edge at small to medium sized Pipe in a contest where at least he’s not hassling for position with 100 other guys in the lineup.

tim_nelsen

choose one male body Derek. meet me at Joe’s…screw the rest of ‘um! cock heads…

Low wide stinkbug stance

Speaking of AI…

tim_nelsen

garry rossinger’s wife…https://youtu.be/YtpjqaGuYRw?si=Wke…

tim_nelsen

Tone It Down~from barbie & tuesday…ef, Wednesday’s on emmies…not allies…general consensus…vote purple~

justiceminister

AI is artificial info. Created by a bottomless pit of shit.

Ray e

Someone in the industry needs to do this. You invite the top 12 surfers to Pipeline, Teahupo’o, Cloudbreak and back to Pipeline. Waiting period of 8 or 9 days but the contest takes only 1 day so your not pissing off the locals who want to surf. Surf as many 3 contestant 30 minute heats as possible. The finals will be the 3 contestants who have the 3 best scores in their heats in a 45 minute final. Points will be given to how you finish each contest and the second Pipeline contest will be the series final. Make the prize money large enough so that true wave of consequence surfers from the WSL will not care that the WSL won’t let them complete. Call it the World Surf Invitational.

Kama'aina

Would be great to add a solid right to balance it out. P-pass, Soup Bowl, or wherever. Could be called the World Championships of Professional Surfing. I would pay to watch each event.

To bad you aren’t up for the WSL CEO position. This is the kind of thinking their leader should have.

Shane Durian

HTs for the right hand roll-in caves!

Low wide stinkbug stance

One comp in Skeleton bay, one in African Kirra (or alternatively, Barbuda). Jetski assist and 4 guys in the water. Would be epic.

Shane Durian

Agree that World Title would be much more meaningful if there were fewer poopoo events (looking at you Saquarema, El Salvador). But being the best surfer in the world isn’t just about riding tubes – add in Margaret River and J Bay and you’ve got yourself a real proposition

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

“Unsubstantiated claims that he was scared of Pipe”

Substantiated by both events and old man Dicky.

Chazz Michael Michaels

Is there a lower bar in sports writing than surfing?

Chas Smith

I haven’t explored curling lit, yet, but think “no.”

Chazz Michael Michaels

It’s all the fault of the WSL, of course. Think of all the surfers in the world, and all the sports fans. It’s actually quite an achievement to make something so marketable into something the market happily ignores.

Chas Smith

It is remarkable that something so mesmerizing is a complete sporting afterthought.

astro

I think you mean afterbirth, Chas, me ol mate.

tim_nelsen

remarkable exchange.

astro

Even the conception was a fuck up.

tim_nelsen

wait for lab results/

astro

Prolly no point. I mean everyone can see what we’ve ended up with – a bloody mess.

tim_nelsen

a passing grade…a for effort astro, junior…

tim_nelsen

a horse-drawn carriage?

tim_nelsen

contra’s in suburu’s and toyota’s…joni at the grammy’s…fuck vinyls. guns?

ValiantScorn

Filipe level fear of that community? Something with a broom?

Ray e

Chas, The Inertia forgot to include your books. https://www.theinertia.com/…

Chas Smith

Sam George will certainly rectify soon.

Cannabis-Creativity

No Kem Nunn

4Oceans

Many books still to be written about curling bro meth champs

@surfads

It’s working well for me.

Capt Sensible

You may have to ask Nick Carroll he set it , he was AI before AI was a thing.

Cannabis-Creativity

“How would you like to be a photographer for the National Enquirer? Is this the lowest possible rung on the photojournalistic ladder? There’s Pulitzer prize winning artistes out there covering the insurgency in Chad, the political unrest in Afghanistan. You’re sitting there at your dining room table, doing still lifes of a yam shaped like Hitler.”
Dennis Miller, 1988

tim_nelsen

dennis & the menace searchin…for Lassie’s…and my first secretary…hereby listed…legals only… enquirer (locals only) within~

Stick man

That shot of AI though…boss!

Mapski

Back when trunks were pantaloons.

tim_nelsen

just like a sail. you can reef ’em up’ down…

Andy C

And the Rip Curl search was for waves, not for chicks with dicks

Sean Connery

That comparison is a long shot but I think I know what happened. The bots algorithm went to champion surfers who have fell ill to a sickness that starts with the letter D and Andy Irons Dengue Fever and Felipe Toledo Diarrhea popped up.

snapper

Or…the smart-write software crossed circuits internalizing to externalizing AI with A.I.

mike m

Maybe Pro surfing can’t become popular because noone in their right mind is willing to wait ALL DAMN WEEK to watch the Pipeline competition.
Kick off for the Super Bowl will be on Feb 11th at EXACTLY 3:30pm….don’t worry about waiting even 1 minute, much less one week.

Stick man

It looks shit and soo does the forecast…time winding down.

astro

Wooz Curse strikes again !

Chief Hot stuff

It wont be broken until they lock JMD in a krispy kreme factory and throw away the key

Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt

That would be just a sickening sight to see. Like the human centipede, once she finished eating all the doughnuts, she would start eating their remains again.

frank

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