“People were writing me off and giving me grief.”
New Yorker Justin Jay is a master portraitist who works with a Nikon film camera, an ancient manual-focus 35mm prime affixed to the beak, and made his name shooting superstars like P.Diddy, pre-incarceration, Jay Z and Outkast.
Lately, he has pivoted into podcasting with his show The Plug, with guests including the band MGMT, Tony Hawk, Devendra Banhart, Brian Austin Green and a smattering of surfers and skaters like Mick Fanning and Nathan Florence.
Lenny, who is thirty two, was surfing his foil-board in Maui when he “wiped out” after a back-flip attempt and the board’s hydro-foil slashed his chest, dagger style, and perilously close to his heart.
Lenny has been described as Robin to Mark Zuckerberg’s Batman and in this episode of The Plug Lenny dives into the minutiae of a beautiful friendship.
Jay talks about how “notoriously protective” and “catty” surfers can be towards people perceived as outsiders. He references the great Jonah Hill, who took his hazing very well, and pivots into Lenny and Zuck’s strictly platonic friendship.
Excerpts:
His awkwardness definitely makes people assume things and by hanging out with him I got to know who he really was and he’s actually a really good athlete, surprisingly. He’d run six miles every morning, he’s been doing rowing since college days, you know he runs the biggest social media network on the planet, and I don’t know enough about coding and all the stuff that he really does to make a judgment of that. I think it’s impossible to make everybody happy. But what I know from just hanging out with him personally, it never felt weird at all. I have a lot of respect for anybody who puts themself you know outside their comfort zone and wants to learn something new.”
“Regardless of who you are, i you are one of the top three wealthiest people on the planet everyone wants to tear you down. Everyone praises Michael Jordan or even Kelly Slater, but at the time, when they were at their peak of their powers, everyone’s trying to tear them down, bring them down. And that’s just the nature of being a champion. And in his case, he is a champion because he has the biggest social media network and is arguably one of the most powerful humans on Earth. He can control communication and knowledge and all these sort of things.”
“People were writing me off and giving me grief. But I was, like, this is such a sick opportunity to literally meet maybe one of the most powerful people. What he does with that power over time only history can judge it. I’ve always felt it’s pretty unique opportunity when someone that is so influential across the entire globe wants to meet you. It’s always worth seeing them. You don’t have to disagree with everything. A lot of times people that are at these high positions are expected to be perfect and no one’s perfect…I would be willing to meet any one of our US presidents, even if I didn’t vote for them.”
Essential.

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Deff one of my favorite Dane photos..
Thought experiment Had Zuck been strangled in his crib would a fb-like entity have eventually developed anyway due to social and psychological factors already present in this human culture we exist in?
I’m going to hurl, gather the chunks and fedex to Equivocating Kai for that corny, lame, ass kissing effing twink
Wow, ‘only history can judge’ is like such a totally awesome open minded perspective and not at all a cop-out! You’re my moral hero Kai!
‘He can control communication and knowledge and all these sort of things’ oh really? Genius. Another person who is a top level surfer but a moron. I’m with Negatron, Barrelled, Stick Man, Dogsnuts et al. on this one.
Of all the things we might remember Kai Lenny for??
Shirley you jest??
I try to keep Lenny, (and his like), about as far out of my memory banks as possible.
You guys think Lenny was paid by Zuck? I doubt every time they hung out there was money exchanged but if Lenny wasn’t getting paid when towing Zuck in on Kauai or foiling in Lake Tahoe he’s kind of a dumbass.
Huh, so Adolph is alright in your book?
“such a sick opportunity to literally meet maybe one of the most powerful people. What he does with that power over time only history can judge it.”
—Eva Braun
ha, dawn patrol extra spicy this morning
Muffle Meta
Tank Tesla
Abandon Amazon
If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas!
Go to sleep with itchy butthole, wake up with stinky fingers.
And I quote:
“Regardless of who you are, i you are one of the top three wealthiest people on the planet everyone wants to tear you down. Everyone praises Michael Jordan or even Kelly Slater”
😂
A: Being able to code, Kai, has SFA to do with an ability to judge Zuck as a horrible person.
B: I’ve just had my wisdom teef taken out today and oh, what a joy that was. To wit; I’d rather do that again, than “be willing to meet” Trump in person for any length of time.
C:Does the inherent swastika-ness of that podcast logo poke anyone else in the eye?
My psych is actually a fucking legend but yeah, life coaches can suck a fat one.
Whilst fingering their bumhole !
Xox
what do you have against fingering your own bumhole?
Nothing! I just prefer others to do it!
Xox
“After a storm, there must be a calm
They catch me in the farm
You sound your alarm
Poor, poor me, Israelites, hey” -Sam George
hahahaha
Say what you will, that Kay lenny shot is just fucking nuts.
Its Jaws not Jews.
If Mark Zuckerberg were to approach myself and The surfEXPLORE® Group to help him get uncrowded, perhaps unsurfed waves in a few of the far corners of the world and was willing to pay a reasonable fee for the consultation, I would certainly be interested.
What’s wrong with that?
Lots. But if you don’t know that, you’ll probably never know.
Callahan is a POS cunt. How the hell would he be aware of right and wrong? Too fucking self absorbed to realize anything past his nose.
Ok i’ll bite – whats a reasonable fee and whats involved ? Do you send someone a pin on googlemaps, or do you actually go there to help fend off the evil monkeys and cannibal tribesmen?
First, you find out what type of surf the client is interested in, their knowledge and surfing experience, time frame for a project, their budget, wetsuit or no wetsuit and other parameters – then, after the deposit has been received we deliver a dossier of 3 to 5 prospective locations with the Pros and Cons of each and let them choose two, after which you can add additional information to the two shortlisted destinations to make the final decision on where to go.
That’s how it works for most of our clients, some want a place that has never been surfed before and will pay a premium for that scenario, others are fine with minimal to no other surfers in the lineup.
No one chooses famous waves or crowded locations, ha ha. Plenty of other surf travel providers out there who can manage those arrangements –
Yes, we usually escort the client to the destination, usually with a video crew if they have the budget and want to make a film of the adventure. All of the surfers at Zuckerberg’s level can well-afford a documentation crew, for any destination they may choose –
Another paid advertisement
I haven’t even listed a plug for my book, out in September and available for preorder on Amazon!
You’re keeping Reilly in wet stuff and Smith in wine. Keep up the good work
I’ve got $5.
Just when I thought I couldn’t like you any less.
Or they could just rent out a wave pool for day or two.
Can you send me to a place with hot dudes to finger my bumhole ?!
Xox
We do surfing projects, sorry – I am sure you can find other, specialised agencies that can cater to your preferences.
But I want waves and hot dudes and I feel you can help me!
Who has the hottest swinging dudes and fun waves to frolic in. Kisses in advance.
Xox
give us a couple of the destinations that you use?
So you cater to average rich surfers , who want a surf experience that they can’t do or find on their own?
Indonesia and The Philippines are two tropical locations where motivated punters can surf waves that have never seen surfers previously – there are definitely locations in Alaska, Russia and Norway that are also holding, but cold-water locations are generally much more expensive and a thick, heavy wetsuit is mandatory.
North Sentinel Island and the Nicobar Islands are out there with world-class setups, if you can handle six months (or more) of tedious and annoying negotiations with officials of the various Indian government and military branches that control access. Not for the impatient, Indian officials are some of the world’s most annoying people, they say NO to everything.
Everywhere you think no one has surfed, some Aussie has surfed it and didn’t say a word
I couldn’t tell you how many random surfers have approached me, either with messages or in person, making claims that “We surfed there before you did”, etc etc.
Somehow, they never have any documentation – no images, no text, no passport stamp, nada.
All hearsay, speculation, rumour, bullshit and outright lies unless you have proof for your claims.
Ha ha, it’s just called surfing ya wanker. Why does anything need to be documented
If people make claims, they do need to provide documentation – otherwise, anything they say is merely rumour, hearsay, fabrication, wishful thinking or lies.
In the Age of Trump, someone who lies constantly, concepts of truth like confirmation and documentation are said to be irrelevant – they aren’t.
You start by selling out every spot you’ve ever been to just to get a few bucks if you’re lucky. Guy’s a fuckstick. Claiming he can take people to spots that have never been surfed. What a fucking joke.
This is a paid advertisement
Blocked – no time for Jew-haters, sorry
Don’t think the apology was necessary
The king cunt of blocking. Can’t handle hearing anything but his own opinion.
Kelly’s account ?
Xox