"JJF, as you sail around the world broadcasting your privileged life, I hope you’re enjoying the party your President just started."
The surf world was rocked to its very core, early Thursday morning, after surfing’s multi-hyphenate artist-shaper-filmmaker-musician Andrew Kidman cooked John John Florence for littering, I think. Florence has long been considered un-roastable, living an exemplary, if not perfect, surf life. He has won three World Surf League cups, one Eddie Aikau, five Triple Crowns, competitively. He has been captured in some of the greatest surf clips ever shot. He started a core surf brand catering to adventurous sorts. He is sailing the globe with his young family, scouting waves, being chill.
Well, Andrew Kidman is nothing if not an iconoclast and took to social media to share:

A couple of days ago I drove up to Kirra to meet my son. I walked up the beach and found him under the boardwalk, where some of the homeless people sleep. He was tucked in under there, filming his mate Curtis riding a surfboard made by George Greenough. In the last 20 years, George has made no more than 10 surfboards, this is one of them, dubbed “The Child’s board”. Gus was happy, Curtis was struggling, but having a crack, it was his first time riding it. As I walked back to my car, I picked up the broken pieces of surfboards and plastic that washed around the volcanic rocks at Kirra. As I got to the Kirra surf club, there was this broken surfboard laying in the middle of the grass, with nobody taking responsibility for it, the fins had been taken out.
And I’ve been wondering to myself since; how would the two John’s feel if I showed up in Hawaii and started flooding their market with imported, mass-produced surfboards? How would they feel when punters broke them and then just tossed them on their front lawns, or worse still, just left the broken piece in the Ehukai Park for a Native Hawaiian that works for the council to deal with? Not to mention where the other half of this board is, just floating in the Tasman Sea somewhere, gradually releasing its tiny foam baubles for the wildlife.
Picking the broken board up and putting it in the back of my car, reminded me of picking McDonald’s trash up, noting, that at least McDonald’s trash is recyclable now…and now I’m wondering what to do with this half surfboard? JJF, next time you sail this way, will you putt down the Tweed River, filming yourself as you collect the rubbish from its banks and collect this from me at a designated point? Or is there some recycling policy your company has? These are your words, from your company. “We’re building things that motivate us to get outside and thrive in the elements, while doing our best to protect the ocean and the land.” Someone I knew once said. “It all comes out of the same oil well.” JJF, as you sail around the world broadcasting your privileged life, I hope you’re enjoying the party your President just started.
Yikes!
Is the last bit a threat?
Those in the comments were mostly pleased by the hot take, though some were confused, one penning, “Why you dragged John John into America’s war by its failing President and a broken board on the grass left by an Aussie makes no sense. But maybe there’s something I missed…”
Thoughts?
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Hey, Andy, watch out where you drop your bombs, mate. It’s Pyzel’s brand, not JJF’s.
Doesn’t JJF have a stake in the business?
I don’t think they sell those boards anymore bc they didn’t sell. Also amazing argument considering Hayden, Wavestorm, Surftech, Global Surf Industries etc. have done the same thing for years on a larger scale
my favorite ice cream…a Gaytime……!!
what it means to you is irrelevant….you are on a public forum……yeah so as you pointed out 40 years ago gay was homosexual……it’s 40 years blowin…….bit like the Australians who call for ,”“We have to continue to mobilise, and we have to continue to globalise… from Gadigal to Gaza, globalise the intifada.”…..violence and global mobilization…and she wonder why she has now been ostracized in Australia….no more $20 K speaking tour……she says it means global mobilization…..to her…but for the rest….it’s a call to violence…..so Gay and demeaning someone as gay is exactly that!
Funny snipe from from Kidman trying to connect John to Trump. Isn’t John the most non political human on the planet? Does John even have a country?
I use to have a certain amount of respect for the Greenough loving surf historian strain of retro shape enthusiasts. But this kind of feels like a “my brands not cutting it, it’s getting harder for me to BS my wife to follow my core lord dream, it must be John John’s fault vibe”. I think Kidman’s blame game style here aligns far more with Trump and MAGA’s political tactics of blaming immigrants for people’s crappy lives. Where as John John’s approach to life seems far less politically oriented. Blaming cheep soft tops for the ills of the world is far more similar to blaming cheep immigrant labor. While that has worked for Trump, not sure it will elevate Kidmans brand. Kidman probably needs to own his MAGA leanings and start frequenting the broesphere podcast scene. Maybe move to Huntington and shlepping himself as a Jesus like profit casting away soft top makers and riders alike.
I think Kidmans cohort Ellis Ericsons depiction of the grumpy retro shaper in the Toby Cregan classic Nix Nic Nooley really reveals the shortcomings of depending on the retro trend for income. Check Ellis ripping Kidman a new one here at 9:58 into the great flick. https://youtu.be/z6hPm5DXHWI?si=Bg_knUDtka5fwbvB
Sorry Ellis’s post puberty angst doesn’t make me miss my stoke..
That skit wasn’t angsty, neither was Ellis. It was comedy. They were just clowning on the image/archetype of the chill retro shaper soul guy (who easily gets pissed off). It’s funny too cuz Ellis actually is into retro and unconventional shapes. You should actually watch the vid, good music, good surfing in crappy waves. Might make surfing look fun again and re-spark that stoke. It’s the opposite of scrolling through the Beachgrit comments section.
Never had it in me to treat a surfboard in that manner. I still have couple my best boards that I’ve broken in half.For the life of me can’t get rid of them! and Your are right Beach Grit no longer the anti depressive it once was. Enjoy the DRAG stuff more makes me want to go full circle ..
Those Drag vids are so good!
People love throwing the “privilege” dagger when their own lives are shit.
People on the left throw the privilege dagger when their lives suck. People on the right like to blame immigrants, minorities, etc for their shitty lives. Seems like pushing those narratives is great for people who want power. “Blame these people for your crappy life. Vote for me and I’ll go after them for you”. The left and right aren’t all that different. It’s just who they chose to blame, which is never themselves.
bullseye
As you were then.
Seriously?
Are you really going to just let this shit ride like the three legged horse that it is?
I really want to just run game on this clown, but I am trying to better my mental outlook.
I guess I gotta block then…
He has a thing for this champion for some weird reason.
I’m his gay brother’s partner. Just keeping the family vibes positive. Happy now?
It’s a considered response. And yes.
Well if you’re cool with toxicity then I guess so am I. Unblock and assault it is then.
https://youtu.be/iywaBOMvYLI?si=_WcpfLkisIFOF6DR
Considered not emotional response. Key word there. Be careful you don’t become your own victim on the unblocking rampage.
As you were.
Considered response justifying the use of the word gay, like the considered comments of jewish racism disguised as anti zionism, or white supremacy.
Considered toxic responses okay with you, emotional response to toxicity not okay with you.
Got it….cold as ice it is then.
You think Com was offended with being called gay as fuck?
Are you that mortified at the use of the term?
Like I said to him it’s a dumb base level insult. If I start banning peeps for dumb base level insults there’d be no one left after a week.
Swap gay for other key words mentioned for same answer….
Not even asking you to ban anyone.
Not even about any one offensive term, it is more about the collective use of them bringing on more hate in return, Ben Marcus style.
Like I said I can resort to fighting fire with a blowtorch, no worries, all while using colorful vocabulary to do so.
I did it once already with some measure of success.
As long as you are as cool with that as you are with racist bullshit, should be no problem right?
If Com wasn’t reposting, his “racism” would be dead and buried. You guys want to reanimate the dead and talk in circles with someone you don’t like or agree with. Go for it. I’m off for a wave. xx
Don’t let the fin go where the sun don’t shine…
Twisted fucking logic eh? This must be his long lost cousin that escaped from the insane asylum.
That’s okay.
Who needs a mod anyway?
He’s not since you don’t use Gila, None, or Blowin as your fake name.
Be careful. Toxicity is reserved for Gila and Gila alone. Anyone else gets a bashing from the overlord whose pretend name is not to be spoken or written along with a potential ban. But not this douchebag.
Meh, the only one who gets worked up and offended by it is Hippy, and I blocked him for the fun of it.
How this racist, homophobic, narcissist, dumb cunt doesn’t draw a ban but others, as annoying as they might get, are banned is beyond my understanding.
The block button is your personal ban button. As you were.
Petty as it is, this is the price you’ll have to pay for annoying everyone with all those deletions. Enough of the “gay” insults too, more base level dumb than Com’s behaviour.
John Johns rubbish congeals then drifts into Suva harbour,where it washes into the landfill pile and is pushed back out to sea on the high tide. Where we yes WE the peasant throngs can witness the beauty of him as it washes over us at Suva lighthouse right whilst in the tube…the cycle of life.
Maybe a time for the Hawaiian people to rise together and rid itself of its tyrannical american overlords ! JJF could sail in and block the ali wai from all tourist boat traffic
*Ala Wai
funny enough Vela (née Falcor aka John John’s vessel), moors at the end of the Ala Wai
sounds like you are closet gay?
He’s lost the fucking plot and all Com is doing is screenshotting his own words. It’s actually pretty entertaining, albeit sad.
are you fucking kidding….Maori s/Hawaiians and are you also including Australia’s Koori nations?
as far as all the “fag” comments go, which are supposed to denigrate a man as some kinda soft man….I know quite a few gay people who would kick any of our arses in , and they are 70kg’s……I always pose the question when someone is gaybashing…..sounds like they are gay?
WOW! Someone sounds like they are really jealous or very bitter.
He likely was just looking for a Beachgritter to massage his prostate (called a prostrate in my parts).
A couple of them are likely on their way to help the lad out.
If you are reading this, I am in your head. https://uploads.disquscdn.c…
Who is Andrew Kidman? What is an iconoclast? Jealousy can ruin a Surf Renaissance Man.
Power enough to make you respond. You can’t help yourself! I dare you to ignore this comment….
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Must have run out of meds in the bush. Guys losing the plot.
Your narrow little bogan mind is running out of things to say
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All I have to do to make you absolutely melt down is this. It is all so very easy…
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There’s always Tower 9 if we need to talk this out, but in the meantime, for posterity’s sake…
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Kidman x Kid Rock collab.
KKrK?
Bud Light x Surfers Journal collab
You just, inexplicably, made me laugh out loud. These comments are why I come here.
They finally updated their user platform to include emojis 🏄♂️
Andrew Nicole Kidman Rock