A Truth and Reconciliation Commission should be part of a larger reckoning that forces America to open our national closet, face our past, then ask what we have become and where we are going as a nation.
Given that Donald Trump’s approval rating among republications is holding steady at somewhere between 60-80%, Paul Krugman’s call for “deMAGAfication” is nothing less than a call for a second Civil War. Worse, his argument rests on the pernicious myth that Allied “reeducation” (war crimes trials and denazification) transformed the Nazi dictatorship into a constitutional democracy.
This claim does not hold up to historical analysis.
After the unconditional surrender of Nazi Germany in 1945, Allied leaders had something extremely rare in international politics—a monopoly on military and political power. For the first time since Napoleon, German soil was occupied by foreign armies. While the citizens of the Third Reich were resigned to having their cities bombed, POWs executed, and territory plundered, the Allied reform and reeducation policies were another matter. Although this was unlike anything Europeans had ever seen, it was familiar to Americans south of the Mason-Dixon Line, who had undergone a similarly resented effort after the Civil War.
The German reeducation programs were founded on the assumption that if the Allies could somberly present evidence of Hitler’s war guilt, Germans would recognize and acknowledge the criminality of their leadership. The centerpiece of this effort were the thirteen international and American war crimes trials held in Nuremberg between 1945-1949. This effort was unsuccessful. “The Nuremberg prosecution, well supplied with documentary evidence, succeeded in refuting these nonsensical excuses and winning convictions,” wrote German historian Jörg Friedrich. “However, the public was not won over.”
When Nuremberg’s International Military Tribunal handed down their decisions in 1946, the German public was hardly “reeducated.” “The Germans learned from posters on the street that their former leaders had been hanged at Nuremberg,” wrote Friedrich. “Now people crowded around the pillars on which the posters hung, reading in silence that ministers, field marshals and police chiefs had also died. There were no signs of remorse. In Wuppertal, schoolgirls dressed in black on the morning of the execution; in Hamburg, people whispered that the British leaders responsible for the bombing of the city also deserved to hang.”
The final execution of Nazi war criminals occurred in 1951. At the funeral of Einsatzgruppen leader Otto Ohlendorf, representatives from all of Germany’s right-wing parties attended. When the casket was lowered into the grave, the mourners gave the Nazi salute. According to Friedrich, “The public uproar over the hanging of these blood tainted butchers underlined Nuremberg’s failure.” In the end, the criminal guilt that the trial planners hoped would serve as “a wedge between the public and the defendants turned out to form a link between them.”
Although the Nuremberg trials were the highest-profile legal proceeding, the vast majority of cases in post war Germany were tried by Allied denazification courts. In early 1946, Allied De-Nazification Law established four levels of offenses for the members of the recently criminalized Nazi organizations. The implications of this vague commitment were both radical and enormous: a large percentage of the German population would have to be processed judicially. More than 13 million Germans registered with denazification boards; 945,000 were tried by denazification courts, and 130,000 were found guilty under some category of law. However, penalties were not very severe; sentences ranged from ineligibility to hold public office to restricted employment, fines, and at worst, forced labor.
Less than a year into the program, due to the Cold War’s international political exigencies, the reeducation plan began to unravel. According to Peter Grose’s book Operation Rollback, “By the summer of 1946, Washington’s top military intelligence officers had abandoned the fervor of deNazification and were arranging for ex-Nazis with ‘special’ qualifications, such as expertise in rocket science and other high technology, to be excused from the indignities of prisoner-of-war status and join the service of the United States for the demands of the postwar era.”
In 1946, the U.S. Allies turned the program over to the German zonal government. Although denazification proceedings continued until 1949, they often appeared farcical under German administration. “Some of the denazification trials were absolutely shocking mockeries,” said former Assistant U.S. High Commissioner for Germany Benjamin Buttenweiser. “They were by no test a complete success….Many . . .withdrew in sullen resentment, a ready audience for the irresponsible demagogy of unreconstructed Nazi leaders.” In his book Beyond Eagle and Swastika, Kurt Tauber wrote, “Most serious of all, the very excesses of denazification procedure not only unjustly discredited the entire idea in the eyes of a large segment of the population but also created a climate of opinion which the Nazis could use for their own purposes.”
In its annual assessment of U.S. foreign policy, the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff (headed by George Kennan) argued that America’s reform and reeducation efforts in Germany had failed. The 1948 “Review of Current Trends in American Foreign Policy” declared: “we must recognize the bankruptcy of our moral influence on the Germans, and we must make plans for the earliest possible termination of those actions and policies on our part which have been psychologically unfortunate.” The report singled out the reeducation efforts: “We must terminate as rapidly as possible those forms of activity (denazification, reeducation, and above all the Nuremberg Trials) which tend to set us up as mentors and judges over internal German problems.” Columbia University laws of war professor Jonathan Bush put it best, “[Nuremberg] was the complete failure of what we would today call civic society, a reeducation in democracy. . . . West Germany . . . is the classic example of peace—and more than that, peace, prosperity, security, good foreign relations, and all that—without justice”
The United States has been in a cold civil war since Donald Trump’s 2016 election. Over the course of the past decade, both republicans and democrats have acted unconstitutionally and regrettably. Donald Trump is not an anomaly. After 9/11, the United States, in the words of Secretary of State John Quincy Adams, went abroad “in search of monsters to destroy.” Instead, we destroyed ourselves.
In 2024, I wrote “America Needs A Truth and Reconciliation Commission” because I believed our criminal justice system had grown too politicized to do anything but create more martyrs. Moreover, because neither party holds a monopoly on political or military power, a Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) is one of the few effective remedies available to a bitterly and dangerously divided nation.
A Truth and Reconciliation Commission should be part of a larger reckoning that forces America to open our national closet, face our past, then ask what we have become and where we are going as a nation. Rather than gallows and primitive political justice, our political, financial, and foreign policy miscreants should get a choice. They can trade testimony for amnesty or face a military tribunal and a life sentence without the possibility of parole.
After the TRC and trials conclude, there should be a third Constitutional Convention that includes national referendums on basic issues: borders, citizenship, free speech, healthcare, pollution, law enforcement, taxes, lobbyists, monopoly/crony capitalism, AI, foreign policy alliances/entanglements, and more. Yes, my idea sounds almost as Polyanna-ish as Krugman’s, but what other options do we have? After all, the bloodiest war in U.S. history was the Civil War. If we could kill 700,000 of each other with single shot rifled muskets, bayonets and primitive artillery, imagine what Palantir could do.
(Editor’s note: Peter Maguire is a surfer, war crimes investigator and author ofThai Stick: Surfers, Scammers, and the Untold Story of the Marijuana Trade (movie rights optioned by Kelly Slater), Law and War, Facing Death in Cambodia, Breathe, the bio on jiujitsu icon Rickson Gracie and its follow up Comfort in Darkness. Ain’t much ol Petey can’t do. This story first appeared on Pete’s substack Sour Milk, subscribe, it’s free etc.)
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Derek posts this AI image of Trump as Lady Liberty and then his lawyers argue that he can bulldoze the statue at will if he so desired….coincidence?
I think not.
Fine, I will try and read The Engineering of Consent by Edward Bernal again.
This is just too dense for me atm
Can we go back to bottom turns in bikinis?
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More Sean. Less Peter. Por Favor.
tough one , made it through first 6 sentences then had to bail – usually try to stick through the really long ones in solidarity , but occasionally the thicket is just too daunting
1) Re-educating Nazis didn’t work; but 2) MAGA can be still reeducated with Nuremberg-lite.
…brilliant.
I have no idea why he would use the term Truth and Reconciliation without comparing it to the process in South Africa.
have no idea why many of the words were used
… and yet somehow the best the dems can do in response are talarico and platner
going to be a long winter if the opposition can’t get its act together
They seem very together …other than a few leftists who seem to be wanting to represent the wills and desires of the voters.
Long winter confirmed
Talarico looks the goods.
was almost ready to take up Catholicism after hearing him speak on it
Jesus H Christ. People will literally suggest anything before suggesting taxing the rich.
Up against the fucking wall, the lot of ’em.
To say this guy is an overprivileged deluded fukwit , would be an understatement.
Bexy no need to talk about yourself that way!
Today the 4th of June, marks the anniversary of the Battle of Midway in 1942, where the four powerful Imperial Japanese Navy aircraft carriers that had savagely attacked Darwin just months earlier — Akagi, Kaga, Hiryū, and Sōryū — were sent blazing to the bottom of the Pacific by the United States Navy.
These were the very same Japanese carriers that, on 19 February 1942, unleashed 188 aircraft — dive bombers, torpedo bombers, and fighters — on an unprepared Australian city.
In a single morning of terror upon Darwin, they murdered 235 people and left another 300 to 400 wounded, many of them civilians.
But the Japanese fleet did not arrive at Midway untouched. In the month before, in the desperate Battle of the Coral Sea — often called the Battle for Australia — Australian cruisers HMAS Australia and HMAS Hobart stood shoulder-to-shoulder with American forces.
Together they fought with incredible courage, damaging and delaying Japan’s carriers, weakening the enemy fleet at a terrible cost. That battle claimed the lives of 715 brave Americans.
By the time the battle ended, 3,057 Japanese had died.
Although those four Japanese carriers were lying silent on the ocean floor — the war was far from over. There would be more blood, more tears, and more heroic sacrifice.
But from that moment, the tide of war had turned.
Never again would Australian cities live in fear of a mass carrier strike like the one that devastated Darwin, nor invasion.
The shadow that had loomed over our nation was lifted — thanks to the extraordinary courage, skill, and sacrifice of the United States Navy.
God bless America.
Australians must never forget what they did for us. 🇦🇺🇺🇸
Where’s the paragraph on why there is a USS Canberra? Or don’t you know?
I don’t know! Please educate.
I didn’t author. Repost.
Yanks torpedoed HMAS Canberra, thinking it was a Japanese ship. Sank with massive loss of Australan lives. Captain of USS Chicago (who fired the torpedo that sank her) shot himself before court martial.
Yanks felt bad so named their own ship after it.
You might also want to review HMAS Perth, though that was in Vietnam.
Lest we forget (to remember the inconvenient bits), eh?
Seem like the Seppos have a habit infatricide on their Aussie allies.
didn’t a US airman, high on speed, shoot up a whole patrol of Aussie’s on the ground in Afghanistan?
Also thanks for the Hollywood movie featuring the heroics of the real life pilot named Dick Best
wow…did you just say,”God Bless America?”
I am sure you know that USA provoked Japan into the War , with a 7 point plan….President and generals knew in advance that the Japanese fleet would attack Pearl harbor…..so the expendables/US Navy…..was attacked and then USA entered the war!
No no.
Japan was on a warpath and
mission to dominate Asia long before any US involvement.
Japan correctly saw the US as the only existential threat to its plans and tried to stop it in its tracks at Pearl Harbor.
Had they blasted the drydocks Aussies would be speaking Japanese right now.
Knowing you are going to be attacked and not only letting it happen but facilitating it….
Sounds familiar doesn’t it?
Allied Occupation of Germany (1918–1930s)Following the armistice in November 1918 and the signing of the Treaty of Versailles, the German homeland was occupied by the victorious Allied powers to ensure compliance with the peace terms and secure reparation payments.The Rhine Occupation: Foreign Allied armies marched into German territory and established zones of occupation.Who was there? The occupation zones were primarily divided between French, British, and American forces. For example, the Americans occupied the Koblenz sector, while the British managed the Cologne region.
Not enough mention of Israelis to get us riled. Boring.
The fun part. Derek and Chas feel the room. Oh, long form seems popular today, let’s drop Peter and Sean. Phew… we didn’t have to type today.
Comment section engaged…..
Maybe
And here I thought we were all about to get along.
This public square has too many tissues and computer necks. Let’s just not, mmmmmkay?
It is such hyperbole. At absolute worst, today’s political climate compares the McCarthy era. The comparisons to Nazism are absurd, Germany was regularly spaced piles of rubble, millions and millions dead all over at the hands of diverse points of view.
I mean we could get there, but we are going to have to try a lot fucking harder ….
We maybe far from Nazi Germany, but coming from someone that lived under fascism in South Africa, believe me we’re well on the road to fascism.
Gosh, we think of Elon, Peter Thiel, um, Palantir of course, Louis Moseley, wow.
Whattya Love most about allowing crazed South African immigrants control of your government data and your entire military, Kaips?
Gifts keep coming daily.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/…
Well, that’ll about do it for this website.
Eh ??
What other options do we have?
Making sures someone with the views of Peter Maguire and Paul Krugman never hold a position of authority to implement any of these awful ideas.
Simple Jack sent in at Punta Roca
Meh….Jack’s going to make $US15K with an hour of surfing during a tropical holiday with his family. He will be feted and lauded and move on to the next destination whilst the utter, utter fuckwit who tried to spear him with a board over a brown, shouldery burger of a wave is back to chimping for a subsistence living.
I’m no fan of drop ins, but putting a board through someone’s spine is a cowardly, gay, kooky, shitcunt move. Face the person if you’ve got an issue with them. Man up or suck it up you weak, dog cunt.
He did man up, paddled to him and told him to fkn go in cunt.
but flicking his board was fucked.
wow. sharks to nuremberg.
To think a Cunt told me to post here, many months ago, as they are a bunch of funny Beach Gritters
Some other Cunts have lost the plot.
Can we not just go back to Surfing, and not religion?
Are you a moon to the planet Strayan Cunt?
I enjoyed the fun, and the funny comments. I am not a fan of watered down Vanilla flavour.
Enjoy your all your totally fine bumhole fingering (No offence Dognuts)
And Always stick up for your mates, or you are a fuckn loser
I miss him too. Even though he seems to hate septics. Place was def more fun with S.C. around
I don’t think he hates Americans, though It seems like he is reacting to things changing around him in his country with rich people moving in to his town driving range rovers etc.
I went through the same anger seeing the same thing happen around me.
The days of everyone showing up at OB the day after thanksgiving with all of us still wearing whatever formal clothes we had to wear at family gatherings the night before because we knew it would be firing.
Looking at eight foot barrels. Taking bong hits in the back of a van before paddling out.
I miss all the eccentric characters in the surf community. Some are still doing crazy shit in their sixties but are slowly dying off.
Sad to see affordable surf towns changing.
Your obsession with another “male” is only healthy if you are gay
Decision times….
We both sunk on and survived from the same doomed ship.
I guess you have no male friends. We call em Mates here, but not in the way you see it I guess…
Happy Pride!
if el sal is firing you might get your wish
tracks w/ a certain crew of boomers who came up in the 60s and 70s and were radicalized in one direction or another , a few just kept on riding long after the track had ended, so to speak