Should Fred Pawle be bashed, raped and killed? Wilko supporters say yes!
Do you remember yesterday when Matt Wilkinson called for the inclusion of sharia law in our judicial system?
The Quiksilver Pro champion become overheated when he was called a “yobbo” and “not pretty” in a headline in the sports section of The Australian newspaper and said, “Who thinks this guy deserves a flogging?”

Wilko’s pals, which include the former ASP chief Brodie Carr, surf journalist great Tim Baker and ASL editor Wade Gravy who included a photo of the writer of the story, were universal in their condemnation of the headline and the story contained within.
Their case stuttered when it was revealed that if you moved beyond the headline (which was written by a sub-editor) the writer had actually called Wilko’s surfing “the most beautiful in the world” and “fast and brutal…a refreshing alternative.”
A few minutes ago, the writer responded in The Australian with a piece called The Day a Pro Surfer Wanted Me Flogged.
Let’s examine.
“Yesterday I became the target of a social media mob who called for me to, among other things, be bashed, raped and killed.
“Nothing new or, to be honest, disturbing about that. Keyboard warriors are as ubiquitous and harmless on social media as cockroaches on a balmy night.
“What was unusual, though, was that I was being pilloried for saying something nice. If vitriol and incitements to violence can now be triggered for expressing compliments, then, at the risk of sounding grim, free speech in this country is in serious trouble.”
and
“Why was he offended? Did he actually read the story? Or did he think I’d called him “not pretty”? His followers certainly thought so. Amid the hundreds of messages telling him how pretty he really is were other messages vehemently agreeing with his opening conclusion, which soon degenerated into suggestions of rape and murder. Lovely people, Wilko’s followers.
“All harmless fun, of course, to which I was oblivious until my 17-year-old son, who has the same name as me, contacted me to ask why he was copping abuse on Instagram.”
and
“We are living in increasingly intolerant times. Wilko’s instinctive response to an imagined slight was to incite a mob into a frenzy of fury.
“The right to be offended now extends to words intended as compliments, and the mob responds like an overcrowded cage of rabid Pavlov’s dogs. We are facing a generation of young adults to whom opposing arguments are not ideas to be contested, but justification for two dismally immature emotions: fleeting moral vanity and raging hatred. Neither of these emotions is essential to a normal, healthy life, or society, for that matter.
“More disturbingly, among the mob were three surf journalists. One of them, Nick Carroll, whose recent biography of his former-world-champion brother Tom describes him as the “world’s best known surf writer”, ignored the obviously dark, anti-journalistic forces at work and instead posted a sycophantic message to Wilko: ‘I think you’re pretty.’
“When even journalists run with the bloodthirsty pack, we are in a dangerous situation. When the pack is responding to an imaginary slight, the danger becomes ubiquitous. Who will they turn on next?
“Does Wilko think he made a mistake? Was it an impulsive act that he now realises was unwise and even a bit uncool? He won’t tell me. I messaged him last night, then again this morning, asking if we could talk about the storm he unleashed. I also left a message with Neil Ridgway, the marketing manager at Rip Curl, Wilko’s main sponsor. Neither replied.
“When I woke this morning, I noticed that Wilko had taken down the offending post from Instagram.”
Read the full story here (I didn’t cut and paste it all. She long!)
by the way, if you want to read a vastly less irritating and pompous way of covering a CT winner in the mainstream press, try this: https://www.thesaturdaypape…
I wish we could all just get along… I wish I could bake a cake filled with rainbows and smiles and everyone would eat and be happy.
Uhm, isn’t he a redneck ripper? Isn’t that the image that he actively cultivates? He showed up to the awards in a cowboy hat and confederate flag belt, didn’t he? ‘Un-pretty’ goes hand in hand with outback redneck cunt. I’d think he’d be stoked to be called an ugly redneck shredder. Especially after taking the win in Boystown while everyone was looking at pretty boy Julian who casually bowed out early.
Is this the most comments on any one BG story (I’m pullin’ for you, Derek)?
In the meantime…when we will we shift focus away from the Blood Feud! between Lemmy and I and focus on the tripartite Blood Feud! between the people of Rio, the gov’t and the sewage water at Barra Da Tijuca?
don’t let the fact get in the way of a good story.
Best blood feud ever.
First over-reaction Wilko- kind of but not really- I read his response as a joke, and the mob rule responses as hysterical theatrics.
Second over-reaction Fred. Invoking free speech principles is beautiful, but a tad over-reach. Danger from a bloodthirsty pack? Ain’t no-one here but us chickens Fred. (not me, I’m not on IG) The jab at Carroll was …I think Gore Vidal would approve.
That grudge stretches back to the Sarge story if I’m not mistaken. I think history is on the side of Pawle on that one.
But the initial call of Wilko as yobbo? Wrong, wrong, wrong. Wilko is working class Fruit, a far rarer and higher species than the yobbo.
Hang on three surf journalists piled on? We’ve fingered Carroll, who were the other two.
Rory? Chas? you got alibis ready?
Carroll likes being fingered.. but not as much as Chas…
I hold grudges?
Basically Fred Pawle has been made to look like a fucking idiot because an editor up the chain has written the headline/the grab to entice the readers in.
Everyone has naturally overreacted – bring on the Cronulla riots.
But where the Australian paper has totally fucked up is this.
Imagine they wrote “She is not pretty, but this is Australia’s latest queen of the waves!!” – Fuck me it would never have run.
Double standards yes, overreaction probably – but understandable
They already do that about the girls but it gets translated into e.g. “Australia’s new darling, this is Australia’s latest Queen of the Waves!”. Bitch if you be getting called darling it’s a diss.
It is official. Shut up shop and burn the joint down.
Australian surf fans are now officially worse than Brazillians. Yep we are now infested by a bunch of pussified drongoes who act exactly like Brazzo surf fans if one of their own is seemingly slighted.
Well may you say God Save the Queen, because nothing will save the good old fashioned Aussie Yobbo. May as well go out and get a full sleeve Tatt now.
RIP Australian Men.
usa surf fans dont give a fuck coz we aint got shit. and dont tell me anybody is pulling for kobaayashi, unless you are asian.
So here I was all this time thinking a yobbo was a alcohol abusing, violent, ignorant, uneducated and misogynistic loudmouth Australian male deadbeat. Now that I know it’s a term of endearment I started calling lots of men yobbos this morning. They responded with what I guess is what I used to think was violence and hate. I guess I had that wrong too. From now on when someone uses a term of endearment to describe me I will respond with the love they showed me. Punch them in the fucking face and yell at them for a few minutes. I’ve learnt so much today. Thanks Fred.
If you add drug riddled and slightly racist to your first sentence you have described me to a T. Your wonderful words will appear on my grave stone. Thank you.
I think I might have gotten yobbo and larrikin mixed up. Calling all these fun loving young men larrikins when I should have been calling them yobbos. I really need to go back to strayan lingo school. Next I’ll learn that china plate means enemy and I’ll be walking around confused for weeks.
Yobbo and Larriken are both subcategories of the dreaded Bogan.
Ya dingbat. Being a larrikin does not a bogan make (but they’re not mutually exclusive). I think we need to bring in a lineage chart to give you a bit of a lesson in the nuances of the Australian man. I think Fred needs to come to this lecture.
If you’re described as a “larriken” by your friends you’re most likely a 6’3″ meat head who was born in the countryside, gets drunk and screams at the TV in the pub, dresses head to toe in expensive Polo Ralph Lauren shit (fuck boy boat shoes included) in order to pretend you have money (which is quite endearing to onlookers), you have a scrubber of a wife who pretends to love footy but she actually just loves the pies and hotdogs, neither of you bang eachother and you probably work in some low level business or higher level construction job. A larriken is indeed a bogan and if not a bogan they’re just a fat fuck wit.
I’m very confused.
I’m trying to paint a picture for you. Poorly. I’m sorry.
I don’t know this strayan shit you guys speak but I hate this guy you are describing
We all hate the Huff
So to paraphrase if you are a larriken you are the Huff?
Huff BC minus TV. We’re dealing with Huff AD these days. He has suffered the old man shrivel and has lost a good foot or two in height. He can no longer even dress himself and his wife died over 2000 years ago.
Doesnt fred live in bronte? So he is only vaguely male let alone Aussie.. metro poofter would be more appropriate
If you dont have anything nice to say..oh wait…nevermind guess that doesnt apply. Cant say anything anymore with out soft cocks getting even softer
I think Nick has been spending too much time here because he’s reflexively being a wiseass and trying to take the piss out of Wilko. Too damn funny!
and you’ve been spending too much time in airports meeting the hottest pro surfers on your way to hawaii..jeez im an envious asshole….gimme some of that abundant cash you have floating around i need to pay off some student loans
I’d love to see a BeachGrit article about this Blood Feud.
YES!!! Commenter Blood Fued!!!
So then why doesn’t Fred write about us? We seem like two magnificent cunts who’d make a great team.
Yeah, fuck! All I said was that he is pretty.
And he is!
The crooked hat does nothing for him. It’s definitely the cowboy hat that makes him dreamy!
I dunno, I thought it had a sort of Mary Poppins vibe myself.
You have a strong internet commentary game Nick. That one liner had me in stitches.
Fred, I hope you come here to read some comments because I’m not signing up for The Australian just to post. Here’s another angle on your passive-aggressive little attack on Wilko in your latest article…
“First, put yourself in Wilko’s thongs yesterday morning.” He wakes up, feeling great after winning the contest and the first thing he sees is a headline that basically says, “ugly hick wins contest.” In what world is someone not going to be offended by that headline? Has a line like that ever been written about Mick? I don’t fucking think so.
I know you didn’t write the sub-headline, but you’re a fucking fraud for pretending you don’t understand why he would be upset and a total cunt for following up with this ego-stroke of an article. I’m American, not a massive Wilko fan by any means, but you’re an intellectually dishonest cunt, in the American sense, for doubling down on the initial mistake and acting all offended and surprised that people called that line out.
“Intellectually dishonest cunt” is a nice touch.
He’s really that shallow to care that most people don’t find him physically attractive and they think he’s a bozo, even though he has gone out of his way to cultivate that image himself? By reacting the way he did, didn’t Wilko just prove how much of a “yobbo” he is?
It’s possible that after years of thinking that he had to be a jackass to belong he was expecting more adulation. But it really would have helped if he had actually read the whole story first.
I think there is an element of that for sure and agreed he should have read the article. I think Wilko would have reacted a lot better if the headline was “He’s a party animal, but he still won” or something like that. I mean, his reputation is that he parties hard, not that he’s super fucking ugly, ya know?
The only headline he would’ve been happy with is “Wilko Smashes Sally Fitz’ Box in Fiji!”
Everyone on the planet cares how they look and it’s not shallow to be offended by someone printing an article to however many readers saying that you’re an ugly fuck. I mean come the fuck on, get real.
If he had said it on the street that’s one thing, but the reality is that the editor who wrote that little sub-head thought he was being a clever little cunt and he’s finding out he’s not so clever. He’s just a cunt!
OK, sure. You’re right, everyone does care how they look. A little bit of vanity is not bad in itself, but his outsize reaction to the slight negative was. I’m not saying he had to let it go… Do we really believe that the appropriate reaction is to incite violence, though? Come on.
I honestly had no idea whether Wilko was ugly or not. I knew he was a bit untidy but I don’t know what women look for. I see hot chicks with what I consider mongoloids all the time. Wilko being all self conscious has made me unfairly categorize him as ugly. Can we also unfairly categorize Fred Pawle’s sub-editor as a homosexual for making such comments on this basis?
True, you never know what they look for… other than money, I mean
I agree wholeheartedly but are you actually the jilted and jaded Michael Fanning himself taking time off tour to focus on BeachGrit comments?
Damn, I thought the mustache done in Microsoft Paint was enough of a disguise… yes, I have even taken to commenting mid-heat
Explains your shit results. My work has suffered also.
Wilko’s fans overreacted, and Wilko should have read the article, fully agreed on those points. But then Fred pretending he can’t imagine why people are pissed is just plain horseshit. He should have said: Sorry Wilko, I didn’t write the sub-head, I wrote the article where I called your surfing “beautiful”. Mic drop, end of story. Instead, he got sand in his vagine, too!
I see your points.
Booooooh, take that moustache off, you’re fast becoming shark bait.
I didn’t say I agree with the points.
stop being so fair. we come to bash, rape and kill pro surfing here
So Wilko clowns his way into stardom, beer gut, untidy look, outrageous wetsuits (bordering insult on some nations) and now acts like a prima donna? If someone called me not pretty while scoring a hot chick, winning Snapper and making a lot of money, I’d smile content at my achievements.
Sean Doherty said he resembled “sitcom puppet Alf” a mix of orangutang and anteater and nobody batted a lid…
But worst of all were the (obvious) reactions of all the other surf “journos”(yourself included?) jumping on the bandwagon with the mob. Bloody cocksuckers (not sure WSL has any balls though).
Get fucking real!
Agreed. He should have pulled his dick out and asked if The Australian thought that was pretty enough. Then pointed to his smoke show girl friend and said ‘That babe in the corner loves this contest winning, money raking snake!’ and left it at that. It would have been the classy thing to do.
What about keeping his trap shut, enjoying the moment, back it with a few more wins and take it for what it was, good press?
Imagine Danny De Vito losing his shit any time a review pointed out how short he is?
So the only obvious thing to do to Fred here is bash, rape and kill. Sharpen those pitchforks! And get those tiny dicks hard! We are gunna make Fred squeal like a little piggy YEEHAWWW
“Has a line like that ever been written about Mick?” – yeah, Chas / Stab published a headline that suggest Mick was a proponent of anti-semitism following a world title win. Being called a Yobbo’s pretty mild in comparison.
Yeah except Mick actually called Chas a “fucking Jew” so it’s not really the same is it?
Also… has anyone pointed out that Wilko’s post said, basically, that the guy who wrote THAT text should be flogged? So Wilky didn’t really call Freddy P out at all, he called out the sub editor. Let’s get HIS head on a spike and call it a day. 🙂
HAHAHA Nick has been dragged into the blood feud. Onya mate! I’m going to start referring to myself as the “world’s best known surf comment cunt” too. What a title! Fred Pawle despite your article I’d still like you to be bashed, raped and killed by Pavlov’s rabid dogs just for the spectacle. Yew I’m high again!
I can attest to the fact that you are a cunt!!!
says the jet setting cunt….where are you today J H? North Shore packing bombs? or in your toasty Hamptons house?
I’m home in NY (not the Hamptons) for the next few days before my next couple of work trips. I gotta get out of here before the snowstorm on Sunday/Monday.
Whatever the hell you do for work that allows you to travel, live lavishly in the hamptons, and have a condo in Haleiwa..i want in
Then welcome to the software business!
this explains everything. you are one of those cunts who flew out to Silicon valley for a business trip about 3 years ago. Met up with some yuppie California kooks in the tech industry..had a few “board meetings” (fuck you guys are so lame). Went back to Long Island with your new surfer identity, bought a few sticks from Unsound that collect dust in your Hamptons house, and now you comment on BG, and claim youre “core” to all your techy boys
Ha! Yes…I can walk to Unsound from my house. Unfortunately I haven’t hit the “equity lottery” yet but if I ever do you are invited to my party. Trust me…my role in the software business ain’t that glamorous. Think NY to Hong Kong in economy class with the punters.
So you did start surfing 3 years ago.
No…back in high school but don’t have much time (the commute to Manhattan on the LIRR will crush your soul) and I hate cold weather/water so I don’t get out much. It’s much easier to just comment here.
I seriously hate you. Boo hoo the water is cold the weather is shit. Yeah well the waves suck and that’s all we got on the shit coast of the Great US. Don’t be a puss an put on a 5 mil Sunday when it’s snowing and surf the 2-3 ft slop
Depending on what the storm does it shouldn’t be slop. If the wind ends up out of the N/NW then whatever swell we get will be clean. The blizzard in January was big and clean but high tide hit the base of the dunes which was a little nerve wracking. Have you surfed up here before?
It’s true you get the same thrill that comes from building a platform of hatred and contempt for fellow man right here without having to get wet.
ANCIENT BLOOD FEUD: LEMMY V J H!
Do you remember the brilliantly written BeachGrit articles such as “Panic: SoCal Seas Awash in Superbugs!”, “5 Dumb Questions To Ask Pro Surfers!” or “Watch the Eddie Live On CBS!”?
No? Well Lemmy and J H sure do!
This Ancient Blood Feud has festered for countless months, undulating between love and hate on every new BeachGrit post. Who will fire the deadly shot across the bow this time? Will it be Lemmy and his hatred for the upper middle class cuntishness of the Hamptons based J H? Or will J H dull Lemmy’s wit with his fair and measured approach?
Only time will tell.
wow im actually impressed here.
As am I although I’m starting to be concerned that we’re all spending too much time here. Or are we waaaaaay past that point (I think we already know the answer)???
Shut up lemmy and sell him a ryan burch asym for $2k.. he is good for it… and you make $500 margin..
You need a world champion brother of some sort before the title applies.. Maybe you and Wiggolly are siamese twins attached in a way you are kept hidden under his jersey. Which would explain paddling style.. Again he would have to still when a title this scenario to apply.. Sorry!
My brother was the world champion of farting ping pong balls at the Mardis Gras in Sydney. The title applies alright. Up-vote and move along.
Distance or Accuracy?
You gotta have it all to be a World Champion mate! God it pisses me off when I go out to dinner with my brother and people come up to our table to talk about the show! Fucking cunts keep ruining my dinner with stories of their lame attempts at shitting ping pong balls. I know how Nick feels now. I want to knock their fuckin lights out!
Sounds like your brother trained in Thailand in the off season.
Smells like a Trumper Tantrum to me.
Perfect response. Sincerely. Thanks, Fred. Thanks, Derek… I wonder though, will Mr. Carroll go sulk in a corner after being called out like that (by someone who actually matters this time)?
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That, too, was a perfect response. I remember before reading that years ago (I had never heard about the stuff with Mick) thinking Chas was annoying (I didn’t get all the weird, sometimes stilted, tweeny talk or the abundance of exclamation points), but came out respecting him. Mick deserved to be called out, just as Chas deserved to defend himself. Listen to me, being so serious… I better be careful or people like Nick won’t know that I joke sometimes!
take that, sir!