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Opinion: Shark Policies “Insane”!

Government policies "costing lives" says Fred Pawle after yesterday's fatal attack on a surfer… 

On Holy Saturday, I bumped into the writer Fred Pawle while shopping for Easter eggs at a chocolatier in Bondi. The reader will be pleased to note I selected two one-pound eggs and a dark chocolate rabbit of equal heft, all of which were happily received by kids and lover.

Fred was running late for his shift at The Australian and since I hadn’t seen him since the wake for our mutual pal Bill Leak who had suddenly been called to heaven, I offered to drive Fred into the city.

It promised to be an exciting night.

Trump was threatening to take out North Korea’s nukes; Kim was promising a spectacular retaliation.

“World War III could start while I’m on the desk,” said Fred in his breathless bass. I asked if he could call me if it did indeed commence, to which he agreed.

Then we ruminated on how quiet sharks had been in Western Australia. Fred, as you know, keeps a very close eye on shark activity, particularly Great Whites.

Well, clearly we spoke too soon. Yesterday afternoon, a teenage girl was hit while surfing and died soon after in a nearby hospital. 

And this morning, Fred opined that Australia’s timid response to overwhelming evidence that the shark thing was getting out of control was costing lives.

Unfortunately, the story is hidden by a paywall, but let’s take a small peek.

Our insane shark-conservation policies have cost another life, this time a 17-year-old girl who was attacked in front of her parents and siblings.

I would like to say that this incident will be the turning point in this debate, that our politicians will finally realise we need to reduce the increasing number of aggressive, lethal sharks in our waters, but this is unlikely.

• Senate shark inquiry ignores key issues

The forces against such action are deeply entrenched in all our major organisations. For example, Surf Life Saving Western Australia, where yesterday’s attack occurred, recommends six responses to sharks: research, education, surveillance, communication, preventive action (“shark barriers”, which can be built only in placid waters) and emergency response. It does not recommend the reduction of sharks, despite many fishermen in the state saying the size and abundance of large sharks, especially great whites, off WA are alarmingly high.

Researchers and academics whose careers depend upon continued funding into the behaviour and fragility of these “apex predators” long ago convinced politicians and large sections of the community that to reduce the number of sharks in our waters would be an ecological disaster

So a teenage kid, doing what Aussie teenagers have done for more than a century, has died instead. She won’t be the last.

The Senate’s environment committee, chaired by Green Tasmanian Peter Whish-Wilson, will coincidentally hold public hearings into shark mitigation strategies in Perth on Thursday. If, when the hearings begin, the committee expresses sympathy for the latest victim’s family, it will be an act of breathtaking hypocrisy.

As reported in The Australian this month, the committee has already reached a conclusion that its job is to help revive the number of sharks in our waters, downplay the dangers they pose, dismiss methods that have proven successful in Queensland and Sydney, and educate the public about these “wonderful” and “extraordinary” animals.

Its priority is the safety of sharks first, people second.

Of the six people invited to the Perth hearings, two are conservationist academics (UWA professors Shaun Collin and Rebecca Meeuwig); one is selling an unreliable personal electronic deterrent (Shark Shield); one advocates the immediate abandonment of drumlins and nets in Queensland, the presence of which has coincided with an almost complete absence of fatal attacks for 50 years (Sea Shepherd); and another is SLSWA, whose timid six-point plan is outlined above.

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Brutus

cull Fred Pawle!

Metal ghost

hahaha, what the difference does that make ? I farm my animals and I eat them when I’m hungry. Do you eat sharks and make soup to impress your mates ? I’m guessing not.

huma's tears

Nah, no such thing as an intelligent vegan. Lack of meat shrinks their brains, probably their other brain too.

Fin

How good would it be for the expert panel assembled for the Senate enquiry to hold their meeting out the back in the surf off Ballina or Esperence ….and sit out there all day discussing the relative merits of research while being buzzed by a few Whites…
Throw in some tuna oil and stir slowly….

slater thenewdonkey

Fuck sharks. But humans are the problem here. Too many of us, and we eat all their food.

shootsthen

Pretty sure I very clear: 1. in my opinion, it’s more important to protect a young human life than it is to foster the explosive growth of a dangerous shark population; and 2. non-native, introduced, disease carrying cats are less important than endangered native birds that have historical cultural significance to everyone in Hawaii, especially the already marginalized natives i.e., rare, endangered birds are worth protecting more than wild cats from the mainland.

Johnny Utah

Had to sneak something in about the natives being marginalized in that argument about birds? Are feral cats attacking marginalized locals? So cliche brah…

shootsthen

It’s actually not “cliche” at all, “bro.” When a population is decimated, its government overthrown, and its cultural values and identity are systematically pushed to the side . . . well, that sir is marginalization. Endemic Hawaiian birds have cultural significance, i.e., they play a part in the history and lives of native people. For example, the bald eagle has cultural significance to Americans as certain hawks do to certain Native Americans. endemic, endangered birds are important to all people who live in Hawaii. Invasive cats not so much. I’m sure you’d understand if the bald eagle, the NFL, or Coca Cola was threatened by feral cats . . . oh, I almost forgot to answer your question about cats attacking citizens of Hawai’i: wtf is that question supposed to mean? Jesus; let me explain something to you Johnny Utah: most commentators on beachgrit are intelligent and generally respectful; that whole “you had to pull the race card,” “libtard,” “trumptard” bullshit is for the comments on “yahoo” or wherever else trolls go to anonymously spew their garbage. Here, we creatively rip into each other while politely educating one another. No amateur trolling Johnny Utah; doesn’t sit well with the BG crowd. And finally, Johnny Utah, if you’re going to insult Hawaiians, it better be good, not the rubbish you posted above.

?uzzled

The Hawaiians were nearly wiped out not decimated, which means a 10% reduction of the population.

shootsthen

“1 out of 10” is one historical defintion of “decimate.” The modern, colloquial, and more accurate defintion of decimate is to nearly wipe out. See Meriam-Webster Dictionary.

Johnny Utah

Alright, first of all, if I was trolling then I fucking reeled your ass in the boat didn’t I? Look at the size of that paragraph! Other thing, I wasn’t insulting Hawaiians, just you. The topic on the discussion board was so far removed from anything to do with the subjugation of native culture, but you had to weave your whiny little bullshit in there. Hawaii gets the most amount of subsidy from the US Gov’t vs. any other state and a lot of you are always clamoring for independence and acting like because I want to visit your island sometimes, I am the direct descendant of Captain Cook. Have your islands. In my time on earth, Hawaiians can be some of the most racist, ignorant and unnecessarily violent and reactive people I have ever had the displeasure of meeting. There, now I’ve insulted Hawaiians. Bottom line though, you took feral cats and somehow jumped to the oppression of your people. That, dude, is sooo fucking cliche and my point still stands.

shootsthen

Obviously you have some sort of resentment towards Hawaiians, which is weird for a surfer to have, considering Hawaiians invented surfing and were the only culture that would drop everything to surf. Some white people have done some racist shit but not all white people are racist; my point is, if a hawaiian treated you badly, it doesn’t mean all Hawaiians are racist. In fact, hawaiian people are some of the nicest people in the world. Finally, comparing the value of a 17 year girl v. a shark, and the value of endangered native birds v. feral cats, is not “cliche.” The “shark people” are as nuts as the “cat people.” That was my point. You saying “whiny little bullshit” is in fact, some whiny little bullshit. I’m pointing out facts, making analogies, and arguing points, not whining.

Burnsy

Old Hawaiians are generally very nice. Younger than 50 and they are usually cunts if you’re haole, with no provocation.

shootsthen

That’s a very broad statement there Burnsy . . . I’ll admit, that at many surf spots throughout the islands, tourists are not welcomed with open arms (by any residents) especially when they don’t follow the rules. But to say that most Hawaiians under 50 are “cunts” towards “haoles” is simply not true. In fact, the island I live on has way more aggressive, asshole white people than aggressive Hawaiians. Finally, it really depends on what island and which surf spot we’re talking about. If you’re polite, and respect the locals, whether they’re hawaiian or not, you’ll be fine; and that goes for most surf spots in the world. I don’t go to Cali and paddle right to the point. I surf the inside for a while, then slowly ease into the rotation, etc. An entitled person will eventually come into problems. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying there aren’t racist locals but I’m also not saying there aren’t racist or entitled or disprespectful tourists.

Burnsy

Nah, bullshit, ya cunt. That whole aloha give respect, get respect thing is pure fucking bullshit. It’s more like, “Know someone local, get some respect. Don’t? Get fucked.”

Look, I’m from a town where tourism is the main source of income. It’s the same in all those places, they fucking hate tourists but they would be dead-ass broke and lost without em. Hawaii is no different. That relationship is built for resentment.

shootsthen

I’m from Hawaii so I’m pretty sure I know more about it than you, an Australian. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me but calling me “ya cunt” is probably what led to your issues with other surfers. I just don’t see any point calling people names on the internet, but, to each their own.

Burnsy

Lighten up, Francis. And I’m no Aussie, ya cunt!

Johnny Utah

Well hell man, that’s all you had to say

r wright

Quote:
“Then we ruminated on how quiet sharks had been in Western Australia.”
Gotta wonder why there were no shark attacks in the days prior to this girl getting bitten, killed? Maybe we surfers are not really on their menu? Surely the local surf crew all around Western Aus was out riding, conditions, schedules permitting. Surely the local GWS population were still swimming all around Western Australia, day in, day out, in clean offshore conditions and yes, even howling onshore blown-to-sheeee-it conditions in the days or nights before this girls attack, her death. Yet why wasn’t anyone else bitten recently? Killed? Maybe the girl was menstruating? Or she, like I, others to, pissed in her wetsuit, possibly, prior to the attack? Why did the shark attack her, but not her Father? Maybe the shark watched her, a youngster, floundering around, possibly much like they like to attack the younger, unknowlegdable seal pups? Picked her outta the crowd, maybe, as easier prey?
You,
I too, when we surf, are just like a bug splashing around on the top water of an in-the-wild aquarium. And anyone who has ever had an aquarium knows what happens if ya, stoned, drunk, err just goofing off, catch + toss a bug into your aquarium, YOUR fish eat it, right?
So kill all the local fish, err sharks, just so you can surf safely.
Pfffft. My advice? Go surf safely in a wave pool….
RW

huma's tears

Glad to see some outrage on these boards instead of the usual hand-wringing mockery. Hopefully it can be harnessed to the end of killing sharks.

SkepticallyOptimistic777

This whole scenario is a classic case of long-term utilitarianism (hippy scientists) vs. the sacredness of individual human life (enraged family and friends of victim).

The question I would ask is how are these 1st world micro conservation policies working on a macro level? Do you think white shark conservation laws that were created to help foster sustainability in ocean ecosystems actually help combat the extreme depletion of worldwide fisheries caused by reckless nations like Japan?

Ask yourself, is environmental stewardship in first world countries setting a standard that is being followed in the third world? And if not, wouldn’t the more important thing to do as stewards of the ocean be for us to re-center our focus on the larger issues…like the likelihood that there might not be enough fish for humans or animals( like sharks) to eat in the not so distant future. Then both the whiteys and whites(caucasians like myself) are f@$ked…

Metal ghost

dude, reckless nations like japan.? count all so-called first world countries into that category. Australia is considered a evil nation in africa because of it’s companies wanting to mine, destroy the existing environment and then fuck off whemn they’ve spent their load. There is no first world. Every country who calls themselves that has caused more harm to humans and the planet than all other countries combined.

SkepticallyOptimistic777

I partially agree with you on this Metal. I’m just using the term “first world” because it’s common, well known, and brings to mind geographical locations where citizens have the luxury to make environmentally conscious decisions. Places where the average person is able to drink clean water and eat with ease on a daily basis.

Then, because the majority of their time and effort isn’t forced on the basic needs of survival, they worry about other things ranging from Kelly Slater’s Wavepool Business Model to inhumane 3rd world mining activities they will never actually do anything about, in a country they will most likely never visit.

If you are blaming the average citizen of a nation like “Australia” for the International Corporations activity that happen to have offices there (key word being “International”…say it with me ˌin-tər-ˈnash-nəl), than your anger is as misguided as Shia LaBeouf’s anti-Trump live feed.

Metal ghost

As citizens we are all bombarded with injustice from all quarters of society. I would never blame a nations citizens as most of us are just trying to get by. However it is important for those citizens to be aware of it’s corporate entities and governments meddling in other nations affairs. In this the first world must take it’s fair share of the blame. It’s not anger bud, it’s amazement at the majority who have everything they need having a lofty opinion on those who don’t. it’s universal.

longtom

yeak ok, but apart from that we have a problem with sharks. Aus has some of the best managed fisheries in the world, increasing numbers of salmon, pinnipeds and whales….and, most likely a concomitant increase in white sharks along with govt policy to protect them.
Whats your call ghost: do nothing and accept increasing numbers of serious and fatal attacks or do something. If something, then what?

Superworm

Troll internet forums?

Metal ghost

The decision to be made is do you walk in jungle with the lions ? I’ve no real solution because every area and community is different but I can tell you that I don’t surf where I know there are a lot of sharks. I do surf where I know there are sharks because i look at the percentages and decide whether it’s worth it . After Fanning shark I surfed Jbay along with others and we shat ourselves at every movement of sealife or current. Losing a life is hard for everyone, so is the surf worth the risk ? Nets kill everything but save lives and i’ve only surfed some places because of those nets. That’s not too say I agree with the nets as I wouldn’t surf if the nets weren’t there. I remember reading about shark attacks in the 70’s when there were about 14 over a summer. All the reasons people have today for shark attacks weren’t applicable then , yet still lots of attacks. Killing , or culling as some people like to please themselves with, is not the answer.

longtom

“The decision to be made is do you walk in jungle with the lions?”

That line gets thrown out a lot. But people who do, should spend a half hour looking at the human/predator interactions in africa, particularly lions.
“Humans and lions are forced to compete for food and space. In certain areas of Tanzania, some lions prey upon humans. Between 1932 and 1947, three generations of lions killed 1,500 people in the Njombe District in southern Tanzania. Man-eating lions in Tanzania are being studied to determine whether or not they intentionally set traps to catch human prey. Their strategy to lure people out of their homes and then attack them is similar to how lions hunt other prey. The cubs within a pride learn to hunt by imitating the lionesses. Thus, the killing of humans could be a learned behavior passed on from generation to generation.”

So, no I don’t walk with lions, but plenty of people do. And like all human beings they try and avoid predation because that’s what nature and natural beings do. We are part of that. To not avoid predation from increasing populations of white sharks is precisely the most anti-natural position it is possible to take. The other bizarre position is to state human beings are not in their element when using the inshore regions of the ocean. That also has been our natural habitat since early hominids roamed across the savannah and colonised Europe and then Oceania.

Not trying to ramp anything up because your response was totally reasonable and thought provoking.

Metal ghost

People do walk with lions and they run the risk of getting eaten. That’s the point. So to avoid predation where possible, avoid predators. I never stated anything about humans not being in their element in the ocean, everything is natural, even humans unnatural behaviour. In Cape Town we use shark spotters at popular surf spots with known shark activity and it helps a lot. A spotter sits up high, luckily we have mountains for this but WA looks similar, and checks the ocean with binox. If a shark is spotted they radio and an alarm is sounded with flags on the beach telling you the shark activity. It works. Ive seen sharks breach out at sea but if its not trhreatening or moving inshore everyone carries on surfing.

longtom

“So to avoid predation where possible, avoid predators. “

Yeah, thats helpful advice when white shark numbers increase rapidly in your area and attack rates go through the roof.
What if white shark numbers go from say 5000, to 30000 and we start getting 10 fatals a year?
Time to do something then? Or is your committment to preserving sharks iron clad and absolute?

Metal ghost

I don’t know where you are but the stats in WA are 3 non fatal and 2 fatal in 2016. If that’s going thru the roof then I don’t know. It is good advice if you noy going to do something about it. I’ve told you what we do and how it helps. Now you must decide what you have to do in your area.

longtom

I’m in Lennox bruz. 17 attacks/incidents in 2 years.

ah, cagediving. That makes sense.

Brutus

Interesting that in Reunion Island , the fisherman took all the reef sharks , and then the Bull sharks moved in , how’s that working out?

Metal ghost

that’s a lot. that’s a problem.
yeah , the cage diving is a contentious issue. they are far from any surf spots, mostly. any time there’s an attack they get some of the blame. That’s another issue right there. Dunno mate, I’d seriously way up my chances before I’d paddle out in Lennox.

Metal ghost

Sharks all also part of a very lucrative cage diving industry here so preserving them has it’s financial value , if you are so inclined. Killing sharks will piss off a lot of people who make their living from our oceans and it’s wildlife.

Metal ghost

People do walk with lions and they run the risk of getting eaten. That’s the point. So to avoid predation where possible, avoid predators. I never stated anything about humans not being in their element in the ocean, everything is natural, even humans unnatural behaviour. In Cape Town we use shark spotters at popular surf spots with known shark activity and it helps a lot. A spotter sits up high, luckily we have mountains for this but WA looks similar, and checks the ocean with binox. If a shark is spotted they radio and an alarm is sounded with flags on the beach telling you the shark activity. It works. Ive seen sharks breach out at sea but if its not threatening or moving inshore everyone carries on surfing.

r wright

Longtom,
You write this:
“we have a problem with sharks.”

Question for ya:
So ah, how many surfers, swimmers, free divers, scuba divers, or other human beings using the ocean for work or recreation were bitten and/or killed in the week prior or since this young girls was bitten, attacked in Western Aus? Heck, what about the rest, all of Aus.? A shark problem would seem to me to be an every day, all though-out the day occurrence, as you Aussie’s luv playing in the ocean, right?

I,
an old surfer from the beaches of Los Angeles,
am wondering about your shark problem, from faraway California.
So thanks for a reply.
RW

janeausten

Execute every motherfucking last one of [them].
https://www.youtube.com/wat…

longtom

I found some english experts.
https://www.surfers4sharks….

Apparently it’s possible for surfers to love sharks …….

might help if you never have to surf with them.

Tom

They are on a power trip obviously!!! I generally like some of Seans writing, but to be unable to post an opinion – yep kooks!!!

Choc

Cull or be culled! Admittedly I’m no expert… but who really is?

Sonny Joyce

Political compromise. Capture immediately after any incident & research. At least prevents the shark from reoffending.

huma's tears

No, no, no, they must be relocated to a peaceful marine reserve a quarter mile off the coast of Brazil.

Pork Hunt

FACTS
Great White Sharks protected in 1995
In W.A – Between 1967 and 1995 only one fatal shark attack which was near Broome so not a GWS.
From 2000 to 2017 there have been 15 Fatal shark attacks in W.A.
The Facts don’t lie, check them out yourself.
There is no justification to protect White Sharks as it can not be proven that they are endangered and now that they are protected there is now an attack nearly every year.
Not Protected – 28 Years – 1 Fatals.
Protected – 17 Years – 15 Fatals.

RIP Surfer Girl and Sincere Condolences to her Family and Friends

Superworm

Agreed.
They should allow them to be fished/hunted just like hunting elk or bear in America- have a season, a limit etc. Not a free for all, but a controlled kill.
Hunters in America pay billions for conservation of the same animals they hunt and pay for all the park trails etc.
They have to control the species numbers or they get out of control.
Charge a tax on all the related fishing gear they sell and tours etc to pay for ocean conservation.
Eco warriors don’t pay for anything but they have the loudest voice

Metal ghost

you do realise that any species in nature is controlled by nature. i take it you also realise that you as a one of 7.5 billion humans are fucking with with nature. Hunters paying for murdering animals is not conservation, its fucking murder. catch a wake up little worm . One shark attack a year compared to the millions of sharks killed a year. Does your tiny fucking brain comprehend the impact of all this killing with the natural ecosystem ? Or are you just another retard who thinks bombing the problem makes it go away ? What happens if you kill every shark and then one is left over and that one shark bites your little worm , are you going to shout from your hole that it must be killed. Bottom line, don’t surf where there are sharks.

Bin_Chook

Hunting/culling is necessary in a lot of places to control populations because humans intervened in the first place. Introducing species, wiping out predators and predators food sources are all things that are incredibly difficult to reverse. If Australia did no ‘animal control’ the only fucking things left would be feral cats, pigs and rabbits. “any species in nature is controlled by nature”. Unfortunately not since humans evolved, pal.

longtom

pretty sure hominids evolved from apes and seeing as we’ve been around in that form for a couple million years that makes us, and all our interventions “part of nature”.

Bin_Chook

Right, but it wasn’t until we evolved to our current form that we started truly fucking up the environment in a major way.

longtom

I’m agreeing with your premise….just pointing out that humans are part of nature.

Bin_Chook

Fair enough. There could be a philosophical debate there, but this ain’t Philosophy Grit.

Metal ghost

Agreed, the comment was meant without human activity being involved. We are beyond that on land but I’m hoping we can still save the seas. Doesn’t look like it tho.

Superworm

MG you obviously didn’t even read my comment.

I could explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.

You took a rational suggestion and trolled back with personal insults. So ok tough guy, you win, I have a tiny brain. With the internet you can be whoever you want to be, and you’re the tough guy.
You bash the keyboard harder than anyone. You da man.

Metal ghost

I think you know I did read otherwise why would I comment. As for the insults, well I must apologise for the heated moment.

Metal ghost

well, why comment if I didn’t read it. No offense mr worm and I do apologise for my heated in the moment troll rant.

Jimmy the Saint

By definition you can’t murder an animal (other than a human), so maybe you should tone it down before you start insulting other people’s intelligence on here!

Jocks

Bottom line, don’t surf where there are sharks.

Pure Spock Logic. Can’t argue that?!

Neal Kearney

Pretty self evident. Here in the Monterey Bay it’s a question you have to ask yourself every time you paddle out at tons of joints. It’s surprising more people don’t get gobbled up.Fuck it, population control…

?uzzled

Don’t surf where there are sharks? Where else are we supposed to surf if the oceans are ruled out?

Brutus

don’t surf!

shootsthen

Fuck those muther fucking shark loving scientist assholes! Jesus, just imagine those shark loving kooks, living in a semi-wooded neighborhood, packed with aggressive bears . . . I’m sure those fuckwads wouldn’t have a problem culling some bears. Goodness gracious. They remind me of the asshole, psychotic, mainland feral cat lovers living in Hawaii – they think the feral cats are more important than our endangered native birds. Fuckers. Sorry for all the swearing.

Tom

Hey Derek on another note – Sean Doherty wrote great article on Bells talking about basically setting scale of the day on first wave of the day.
Cant believe it I called them out and bagged the WSL and they deleted my comment on Coastalwatch – actually the cocks didn’t even post it.
Basically said with few “Fucks” thrown in how can they set the scores for a whole day based on the first wave ridden!!! Every wave should be scored on its merit – if you go to town well its a good score. What happens with tide wind banks over the day etc
This year it has really pissed me off how at all 3 events they decided on a scale and really talked it up with head nobjob Porte adding his arrogant take on all things.
That’s my rant
FUCK sharks

Fitzburn

I actually adore how QLD goes under the radar in all this. The slightest whisper of drum lines, NSW or WA, rallies the masses of Newtown and Melbourne. Up here we have had drum lines since the 60’s, reaps hundreds of sharks each year, and as a result only one single fatal attack.

Tom

yep is fucking madness just down coast attacks and tagging a shitload and the most populous tourist stretch nothing!!! totally under radar

Wardo's PO

I’m eagerly awaiting Sean Spicer’s opinion piece on the size of the President’s cock. Hopefully it too will be published in a Murdoch rag to ensure it’s fair and balanced.

Bin_Chook

Kill a few, who cares? Seems like there’s plenty, nobody has been able to fish for them in years. They might start croc hunting in QLD again since there’s so many. This is no different.


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