Slater Pool vs Scientology!

Family enlists Kelly Slater in bid to woo estranged brother away from religion…

About a month ago, our comments moderator Negatron urged me to follow up on an interesting comment left on Chas’ article Awards: Enchantment Under the Sea.

Here’s what the poster had to say, in regards to Chas’ Scientology spiel.

I took Negs’ tip and contacted Brett Reisdorf, who just so happened to live in Encinitas, CA, to see if he’d be keen for a chat. The following conversation was recorded on sunny, if somewhat blustery, afternoon at Seaside Reef.

MC: What’s your family’s connection to Scientology (click here for a brief history of the religion)?

BR: My grandparents (on both sides) were the first generation to get involved with Scientology. L Ron Hubbard was doing lectures at this time – that’s where my Dad’s dad bumped into it in Iowa back in the fifties. This was before it was Scientology, when it was still called Dianetics. My mom’s side of the family got involved a little later, so both of my parents were born into it. Then they met on the ship that L Ron was traveling on. My dad was a deckhand and my mom was one of L Ron’s caretakers.

Have you ever been a Scientologist?

Right before I was born my parents were kicked out by the current leader. When I was born we moved back to South Africa to live with my mom’s parents, who were still very high up in Scientology, and they safe-housed us without the Church knowing, because otherwise they would have made us disconnect (the Church forces parishioners to cease all contact with family members who actively speak against Scientology). So I grew up in the house with it, but I never grew up in the study room.

I watched your episode (click here) on Leah Remini’s show, Scientology and the Aftermath, and found out that your brothers got involved with the organization. What’s the deal with that?

We all grew up in California and were not connected to the Church, but occasionally we’d travel back to South Africa, where my brothers would see the other side of the family who were still Scientologists – my mom’s sisters and stuff. At some point their prodding got into my brothers heads, and it was like this little seed that threatened to grow.

Eventually we went back to South Africa for my wedding, and my youngest brother Craig, who had just graduated high school, was supposed to go from South Africa to Oz and then Indo in order to surf and explore the world. He was 18 and ripping.

At some point my mom’s sister put this guilt trip on him, and it worked. So while I was there from the wedding I was literally watching my brother become a Scientologist. Craig bailed on his trip to stay in South Africa and study the religion.

When Craig came back to San Diego he officially joined the Church then got my other brother to join. My parents saw the writing on the wall that disconnection was gonna happen, so they just started pretending. Their efforts in rejoining were purely to keep the family together.

But you were able to get your other brother, Brandon, back. How?

Someone brought up the HBO show, Going Clear, on social media, and my brother defended the Church. That was an opportunity for us, because we knew the guy he was arguing with, so we actually fed this guy a bunch of info, like, “Say this to Brandon as if it were coming from you.” In Scientology, you’re trained to not look at the media, so this was one of our only ways in. Even if they do see it, they generally don’t believe it because they’re taught that these evil people are just trying to go against what’s right.

Our friend really helped out with that, then we got Brandon a trip to Las Gaviotas, and we brought a few ex-members of the Church to help with de-programming him. We had Brandon down there in Mex and he didn’t really have the ability to get away, so we just kinda laid it on him. Then he finally caught onto all the lies and kinda snapped, and that’s when he went and threw a hammer at the Church (as seen in the Leah Remini episode). He was just yelling like, “I want my brother back!”

But you haven’t had so much luck with Craig?

No. At this point Craig was slowly cutting ties. He wouldn’t answer phone calls or come visit so it was pretty obvious what was happening (disconnection). We’ve tracked him all over southern California. We’ve found him a few times and sent him messages of love, but it’s almost impossible to get a hold of him. We actually need to find him again, because he keeps moving.

We explained the situation to Kelly and asked him to help us get Craig back. I brought up the concept of having Kelly tell my brother he won a ticket to the wavepool through some online drawing, because there was no way Craig would turn down that opportunity. From there, our whole family would be waiting at the pool to meet him.

But you’re thinking that surfing can help lead Craig back home?

We hope! We’ve certainly been trying. For instance, Craig’s allergic to neoprene, so if he gets a new wetsuit he’ll break out in a full-on rash, but if he gets a used one he’s stoked. I’ve been giving him my old suits, trying to remind him that we love him.

And what about the Kelly thing?

I sent a letter to the Kelly that I hoped would help win Craig over, because I know that my brother looks up to Kelly similarly that he would David Miscavige (the current Scientology leader). Basically we explained the situation to Kelly and asked him to help us get Craig back. I brought up the concept of having Kelly tell my brother he won a ticket to the wavepool through some online drawing, because there was no way Craig would turn down that opportunity. From there, our whole family would be waiting at the pool to meet him. The only hitch was the plan included Leah Remini’s camera crew, because they were super interested in that idea for the show.

To my surprise, Kelly responded and was really into the idea. He was like, “Yeah, let’s do this! How do we make it happen?” But when the show’s producer wrote a letter to Kelly’s agent, they unfortunately had to decline. Supposedly ownership of the pool denied it.

And that was interesting to you…

Yeah, well first of all, Chas has often hinted that Kelly has ties to Scientology. I like to think this isn’t true. We’ve talked with a lot of ex-higher-ups, like Leah Remini’s co-host Mike Rinder, who have assured me that if Kelly played any role in the Church, they would know. What’s interesting, however, is Dirk Ziff.

You know how the WSL bought rights to Slater’s pool? Well that makes Dirk Ziff its legal owner. It also turns out that Dirk’s uncle, David Ziff, was/is (there is a discrepancy within the Church over David’s status as alive/dead) a major player in the Scieno community. The only other thing that ties Dirk to the Church is that he’s used the company Gensler for multiple projects throughout his career, and Gensler builds all of the Scientology Ideal Orgs (high-end churches). It’s not much, but it’s something.

All I know is, Kelly seemed really keen on helping out but then his manager got back to me saying ownership of wavepool denied request with no further comment.

Anything else?

I just ask that people are kind to myself, my brother and the rest of my family. This is a very delicate situation and it affects us greatly.

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Boy do I love a good conspiracy theory! The Ziff-Scientology-pool thing might be stretching things, howevs.

While this story intrigues, it’s clear we don’t have all, if any, of the answers. Do any of our readers have a connection to the Scientology world? If yes, please share any thoughts and info on the subject!

We wish the best of luck to the Reisdorf family in rescuing their estranged brother/son Craig, and if you feel so inclined to join Brett’s crusade, go ahead and like their Facebook page Surfing to Stop Scientology.

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Robyn Gwilt
Robyn Gwilt
9 years ago

Brett, I was in Bookclub with your mom in Ferndale, and Craig and Brandon were at Nursery school with my girls – I really really hope you’re all sucessful in getting him back. Just watched the Leah Remini episode with your Mom and family, and it stopped me in my tracks here in Cape Town. Sending love to you all! Robyn

Chee Chalker
Chee Chalker
9 years ago

No joke…..Scientology claims L. Ron Hubbard was the first person to surf in San Diego
They may also claim good ole Ron introduced surfing to the US, but I’ll have to do some research on that

ETA
http://tonyortega.org/2016/…

Brett Reisdorf
Brett Reisdorf
9 years ago
Reply to  Chee Chalker

My brother Craig was actually at the Org opening where David made this false claim. I wonder if he actually believed it due to how much coolaid he’s drinking.

Chee Chalker
Chee Chalker
9 years ago
Reply to  Brett Reisdorf

You would think a statement like that would open the eyes of someone who actually knew the history of surfing.
Cognitive dissonance is strong with scientologists.
Who knows…..maybe that statement will be the one that has your brother begin to question what else is false

Goodbye Horses
Goodbye Horses
9 years ago

Xenu don’t surf.

mofahead
mofahead
9 years ago

Correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s sounds like a condition of the deal was allowing access to the HBO production crew, not just the family members. I can think of a lot of reasons not involving conspiracy theories why the owners of the pool would deny that request.

velobwoy
velobwoy
9 years ago

There are worse things than estranged family members. Just sayin.

Brett Reisdorf
Brett Reisdorf
9 years ago
Reply to  velobwoy

Agreed! It just sucks when your younger brother is also your best friend and especially sucks when your younger brother who has disconnected with you was also your best surf buddy. We had some of the best adventures in Mexico and California which are memories I will always cherish. Extra sad because all of this is due to mind control. Super scary how powerful it is in more ways than just belief… politics, human trafficking etc.

velobwoy
velobwoy
9 years ago
Reply to  Brett Reisdorf

Every spiritual path (I dislike “cult” because every spiritual path is a cult except one’s own – although Scientology gets extra points for its origins in CIA mind-control) has its own trajectory (don’t know if that’s the right word). My brother joined the Moonies back in the early 80’s and it was weird for a while, but eventually it became alright. He’s still devoted, and still an awesome dude, great family, great surfer. What I’m saying is, sometimes you just have to let it go. Everybody has their own karma, their own free will. You suffering on account of it probably won’t change that, or maybe it will, what do I know? Keep your heart clear, keep him in your prayers – hopefully he’s doing the same for you. It may end well.

Brett Reisdorf
Brett Reisdorf
9 years ago
Reply to  velobwoy

I agree that everyone is allowed their own path and cult is a strong word. Scientology however is actually described by ex Moonie Steven Hassan as a dangerous and criminal cult( author of combating cult mind control). I’d say that is even a harsher description which should make you wonder what else they’re doing to deserve that label. My heart is only open to my brother and often I have to remind my heartbroken parents that it’s not Craig’s fault. If the “church” never had a disconnection policy my brother would never in a million years have cut ties. We’re a loving family that have always stuck together. Check out our love website devoted to sharing our life events with Craig. http://www.craigreisdorfwithlove.com if you’re interested you can search online for the hate website the church made on my family and watch my brother essentially say that a life of drugs, sex and surfing was bringing him down until he found scientology. Me not fighting for my brother would be like freedom fighters in the 60’s sitting on the couch instead of fighting injustices. Anyway nothing but love for craig and a lot of action against criminal cults

velobwoy
velobwoy
9 years ago
Reply to  Brett Reisdorf

I hope he finds his way out of that thicket. Best of luck to you.

Abscessed Llama
Abscessed Llama
9 years ago
Reply to  Brett Reisdorf

A lot of narrow minds, good on you for addressing previous comment. Unfortunately most americans are so tuned in on their blessed lives via Facebook, instagram etc. We have lost much of the family unit cohesion. Look AT ME! You are going to have to fight for your brother. Action speaks as loud as prayer.

Joe Blowsmith
Joe Blowsmith
9 years ago
Reply to  Brett Reisdorf

I really hope you get your brother back, man. I saw your family’s episode a few months back and felt so sad/angry for you all.

Abscessed Llama
Abscessed Llama
9 years ago

Finally! Can’t wait to read more..This could be an interesting pod cast. Any body listen to S-Town about John B Mclemore?

GiGi
GiGi
9 years ago

I do….. Not bad. The ones before with Sara Kanig(?. Wrong spelling I’m sure) with the Bo Burgdoll marine was pretty good. …. And yr right, this wood be good Pod….

Lemmy
Lemmy
9 years ago

damn…and i thought my family was fucked. best wishes brett

Eddie Haiku
Eddie Haiku
9 years ago

As any good investigator would advise, follow the money Michael, and you will find the truth.

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
9 years ago

well, you know, go Michael! Sounds like a story. Chase it.

Abscessed Llama
Abscessed Llama
9 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

Enjoyed “Gunslinger’s and Racehorses” would you consider sharing more about the chess match of opening wave, heat strategy etc. I for one have only donned a jersey hand full of times none of this is second nature for me. But damn if I didn’t just dream I beat Mike C. and Dane in a heat. Can you believe it?

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
9 years ago

Ah I think this stuff is best studied on a case by case basis. But other than priority, it’s weirdly analogous to a normal surfing situation between gun locals at their home break. Both of ’em want the first wave, and both will try all sorts of ploys to get it, and both have history with each other, so may choose to use their personal knowledge of each other in the process. The big difference here is that (along with priority) around ten grand and a lot of competitive ego is riding on it.

Tom
Tom
9 years ago

Ownership of the pool denied it?? WSL = scientologists and aliens, very interesting!!

Dogsnuts
Dogsnuts
9 years ago

Holy shit.
Get amongst it people.
Delve in.


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