A gorgeous bit of existential dread!
About two months ago now, I drove to Ventura to interview Carissa Moore.
I’d never met her. I showed up at the rental house where she was staying in between a trip to the Surf Ranch and a family road trip to Yosemite. She came to the door fresh out of the shower, wrapped in a towel, and gave me a big hug, like we’d been friends for ten years or more. Of course, we hadn’t.
We sat across the table from one another, my recorder — two of them, actually — between us, in a borrowed RV that was parked in the driveway. Occasionally a car cruised the quiet residential street. The tight space formed a kind of bubble that felt cut off from the world. It was perfect, in fact.
As a writer, you never really know what you’re going to get when you sit down to an interview. I knew I’d get something, of course. I’ve only once interviewed someone who really said almost nothing. Women athletes, they always have plenty to say. But would it be good? I wanted it to be good. Carissa Moore proved candid, self-reflective, and funny. When I went back through the tape, there was so much laughing.
Here is a short excerpt from the interview transcript to taunt you! This is all part of my nefarious plan to convince you to read the full story. Is it working? Maybe it’s working.
Carissa Moore: “I remember going home from [the 2017 U.S. Open at] Huntington and thinking, I have to make a decision here. I’m going to commit until the end of this year and give it everything I’ve got and let go a bit of the pressure and expectation. That was my lowest point. I felt like that was really a turning point for me.”
“I think, like, for the longest time, I just considered myself a surfer. It was really hard to look at myself and ask myself what am I outside of surfing? Like, how can I be happy if I’m not getting the results? What does success and happiness look like for me?”
“Do I want to do something completely different and go free surfing and make movies? Definitely. Definitely I want to do that. But am I making that decision because I’m losing right now? Or is it that I’m actually burned out and need a break? If I won, would I would be fine? Of course. I would be fine. I would definitely be fine.”
“I think both Steph and I are surfer’s surfers. We’d rather have there be lots of waves and just have it come down to performance. But the reality of it is, most heats don’t come down to that. So it’s like, I want to be able to do those special performances, but you’re going to have grindy heats most of the time, you know? So it’s just being able to handle the pressure when there isn’t as much opportunity.”
“I go to the ocean and I love surfing, because there’s an element of peace. There’s an element of, the rest of the world disappears, and it’s just you and the ocean. There’s something, there’s something about surfing that’s so spiritual.”
“I think taking the time to be reflective and reminding yourself why you’re doing what you’re doing. That for me, what’s really helped me in the past couple of years, is that the results don’t define me. I’m more than a surfer.”
Now pour yourself a fresh beverage — your choice may depend on your time zone, or not! — and please enjoy the full story. Because you know you want to.
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Go free surfing and make movies Q: am i surfer or a celebrity with a short shelf life A: ask fatty boy Burrows.
“I’ve only once interviewed someone who really said almost nothing.”
Jen, I had no idea you interviewed Ke11y.
I did interview Kelly at Founder’s Cup! He was super chatty. Super. I think he would have talked surfing all day if he didn’t have to do another thing.
The dude who pretty much answered in monosyllables was a bike racer. Worst interview of my life, really.
Good to hear. My silent perception of Kelly is solely based on his pre or post heat interviews.
Jen, when is your podcast with Chas and David? We will listen! Well, I will.
Oh I don’t know! We have to sort out how to be in the same place at the same time, I think!
I am blaming Chas again for this.
Blaming Chas seems totally good for all the things, in my opinion.
You convinced me, I read the full story.
Blame my poor english, but I didn’t understand: Were you in “the rental house where she was staying in between a trip to the Surf Ranch and a family road trip to Yosemite” or “in a camper van parked near the ocean in Ventura”?
It’s not important, I know, but I won’t be able to sleep if I can’t figure exactly where this interview took place.
Oh, it’s both, actually! We did the interview in the campervan/RV. It was parked in the driveway of the rental house, which was about three or four blocks from the ocean in Ventura.
Sorry for the confusion!
Thanks! Now, I’m going to bed!
So, basically Inception
3 world titles sounds great to me . Why go for 7 or 11 unless you want to be a goat ? Folk still want to surf like Curren who stopped at 3 .
Thank you James for showing me that anything more than 3 world titles is unrealistic for me. And also for not putting an s after the word folk.
If it helps , young folk with beards are trying to surf like a 15 year old Wayne Lynch ( who never won a world title ) yet they don’t even know he exists ?
There’s nothing worse than a grammatically righteous Aussie.
Yes there is, people who say then instead of than.
Right? Is that a new thing? Or did I not notice till recently? Its fucking rampant.
It’s been around 18 months. It is not linguistic evolution! It’s fuckheadism!
Its the Spotify of surf!
Surf Sportified
Your instead of you’re. Fucken makes me angry.
How much Red Bull did she drink? Or was it water in Red Bull cans? She seems very mellow.
Oh ha ha, we did not drink any Red Bull! She is very chill, yes.
She did wear Nike leisure things, which were very cute and made me want to buy. I wore lululemon. Don’t judge.
As long as you weren’t wearing blue stockings ! That’s so 18th Century . Nice work Jen .
Oh ha ha, that was obscure and yet highly funny. Well done sir 🙂
I was wearing flip flops, natch, but not like, super ugly ones! A nice, leather pair from Reef.
Just wondering if the girly version have a bottle opener in the sole ? Lucky to live in an epoch where women are allowed to be intelligent sporty and beautiful .
I can confirm that there is no bottle opener in my flippies!
But I do carry a bottle opener in my surf bag, natch.
What handy tool would a self-respecting surfer girl need in her thongs, (yeah, I said it, because my heart flows with maroon blood laced with the Southern Cross), that would need quicker access than provided by surf bag?
I see what you did there 👀👀
Isn’t it purple now? I can’t keep up with the 19th Century anymore.
It was definitely raining purple for a while there in the 80s
And men. It just took a little longer for the Village People to break on through to the other side of marriage equality. Which women have been grateful for since the dawn of marriage.
Hallelujah . Now if only Kelly Slater can follow Billy Slater into retirement.
did someone whisper lululemon? me and the bros police our local in these. brand of choice! https://uploads.disquscdn.c…
that is amazing, really.
Clicked on the link, read the full story (thanks JS), and when I got to the end there was no comments section.
What is the point of anything if there are no comments? What am I outside of Disqus? What if in Tokyo they hold Olympic Surf Media Trolling in a print magazine? Do I want to do something completely different and go free commenting?
RedBull offers you wings , not freedom of expression .
I will forward you concerns to Red Bull 😀
Well if you tell them Jen I’m sure they’ll listen.
Totally. Everyone totally listens to me!
Soul commenting, free from the constraints of anonymity leads down a dangerous path
Yes, you end up in Bali with dreadlocks teaching Russians how to soul comment.
hahah spot on
Sri Lanka is the new bali for that life direction.
oh that would be wonderful. kudos to those who can pull that off! dream job.
I saw some fucking lunatic engaging in free commenting with a stranger at the supermarket the other day. Balls the size of watermelons.
Not sure whether the lunatic was literal, or was (bravely, in my imagination), a bloke trying to chat up singles in the vege aisle?
Oh huh. Good question. I would have to go back and listen to it again, to be honest. I definitely was interviewing specifically for a print story and wasn’t thinking about how it would work as an unedited audio tape.
I’m not sure how many of her answers would change, because she knows I’m writing a story and will quote her. I almost think it would change what I said more than what my subject did, really. They know they’re on the record. But in a way, I’m not. So I might offer up things in the course of the conversation that I wouldn’t necessarily put in a public recording.
“Surfing is self-expression, art and sport combined.” (from the full story)
Unfortunately all my surfing tells me is that I’m an unathletic wannabe jock who gets easily frustrated about his lack of ability that only allows him to produce Vorticist garbage.
ha ha i feel you, dude, i feel you 🙂