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Carissa Moore: “What am I outside of surfing?”

A gorgeous bit of existential dread!

About two months ago now, I drove to Ventura to interview Carissa Moore.

I’d never met her. I showed up at the rental house where she was staying in between a trip to the Surf Ranch and a family road trip to Yosemite. She came to the door fresh out of the shower, wrapped in a towel, and gave me a big hug, like we’d been friends for ten years or more. Of course, we hadn’t.

We sat across the table from one another, my recorder — two of them, actually — between us, in a borrowed RV that was parked in the driveway. Occasionally a car cruised the quiet residential street. The tight space formed a kind of bubble that felt cut off from the world. It was perfect, in fact.

As a writer, you never really know what you’re going to get when you sit down to an interview. I knew I’d get something, of course. I’ve only once interviewed someone who really said almost nothing. Women athletes, they always have plenty to say. But would it be good? I wanted it to be good. Carissa Moore proved candid, self-reflective, and funny. When I went back through the tape, there was so much laughing.

Here is a short excerpt from the interview transcript to taunt you! This is all part of my nefarious plan to convince you to read the full story. Is it working? Maybe it’s working.

Carissa Moore: “I remember going home from [the 2017 U.S. Open at] Huntington and thinking, I have to make a decision here. I’m going to commit until the end of this year and give it everything I’ve got and let go a bit of the pressure and expectation. That was my lowest point. I felt like that was really a turning point for me.”

“I think, like, for the longest time, I just considered myself a surfer. It was really hard to look at myself and ask myself what am I outside of surfing? Like, how can I be happy if I’m not getting the results? What does success and happiness look like for me?”

“Do I want to do something completely different and go free surfing and make movies? Definitely. Definitely I want to do that. But am I making that decision because I’m losing right now? Or is it that I’m actually burned out and need a break? If I won, would I would be fine? Of course. I would be fine. I would definitely be fine.”

“I think both Steph and I are surfer’s surfers. We’d rather have there be lots of waves and just have it come down to performance. But the reality of it is, most heats don’t come down to that. So it’s like, I want to be able to do those special performances, but you’re going to have grindy heats most of the time, you know? So it’s just being able to handle the pressure when there isn’t as much opportunity.”

“I go to the ocean and I love surfing, because there’s an element of peace. There’s an element of, the rest of the world disappears, and it’s just you and the ocean. There’s something, there’s something about surfing that’s so spiritual.”

“I think taking the time to be reflective and reminding yourself why you’re doing what you’re doing. That for me, what’s really helped me in the past couple of years, is that the results don’t define me. I’m more than a surfer.”

Now pour yourself a fresh beverage — your choice may depend on your time zone, or not! — and please enjoy the full story. Because you know you want to.

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Lindalovelace

Go free surfing and make movies Q: am i surfer or a celebrity with a short shelf life A: ask fatty boy Burrows.

SoCalGary

“I’ve only once interviewed someone who really said almost nothing.”

Jen, I had no idea you interviewed Ke11y.

Jen See

I did interview Kelly at Founder’s Cup! He was super chatty. Super. I think he would have talked surfing all day if he didn’t have to do another thing.

The dude who pretty much answered in monosyllables was a bike racer. Worst interview of my life, really.

SoCalGary

Good to hear. My silent perception of Kelly is solely based on his pre or post heat interviews.

Tomas' silky smooth arms

Jen, when is your podcast with Chas and David? We will listen! Well, I will.

Jen See

Oh I don’t know! We have to sort out how to be in the same place at the same time, I think!

Tomas' silky smooth arms

I am blaming Chas again for this.

Jen See

Blaming Chas seems totally good for all the things, in my opinion.

Walter Pepekay

You convinced me, I read the full story.

Blame my poor english, but I didn’t understand: Were you in “the rental house where she was staying in between a trip to the Surf Ranch and a family road trip to Yosemite” or “in a camper van parked near the ocean in Ventura”?

It’s not important, I know, but I won’t be able to sleep if I can’t figure exactly where this interview took place.

Jen See

Oh, it’s both, actually! We did the interview in the campervan/RV. It was parked in the driveway of the rental house, which was about three or four blocks from the ocean in Ventura.

Sorry for the confusion!

Walter Pepekay

Thanks! Now, I’m going to bed!

Kenneth Noisewater

So, basically Inception

James Bickerton

3 world titles sounds great to me . Why go for 7 or 11 unless you want to be a goat ? Folk still want to surf like Curren who stopped at 3 .

ricmatic

Thank you James for showing me that anything more than 3 world titles is unrealistic for me. And also for not putting an s after the word folk.

James Bickerton

If it helps , young folk with beards are trying to surf like a 15 year old Wayne Lynch ( who never won a world title ) yet they don’t even know he exists ?

ricmatic

There’s nothing worse than a grammatically righteous Aussie.

Dogsnuts

Yes there is, people who say then instead of than.

ricmatic

Right? Is that a new thing? Or did I not notice till recently? Its fucking rampant.

Dogsnuts

It’s been around 18 months. It is not linguistic evolution! It’s fuckheadism!

ricmatic

Its the Spotify of surf!

Otto

Surf Sportified

Tomas' silky smooth arms

Your instead of you’re. Fucken makes me angry.

Audit In Progress

How much Red Bull did she drink? Or was it water in Red Bull cans? She seems very mellow.

Jen See

Oh ha ha, we did not drink any Red Bull! She is very chill, yes.

She did wear Nike leisure things, which were very cute and made me want to buy. I wore lululemon. Don’t judge.

James Bickerton

As long as you weren’t wearing blue stockings ! That’s so 18th Century . Nice work Jen .

Jen See

Oh ha ha, that was obscure and yet highly funny. Well done sir 🙂

I was wearing flip flops, natch, but not like, super ugly ones! A nice, leather pair from Reef.

James Bickerton

Just wondering if the girly version have a bottle opener in the sole ? Lucky to live in an epoch where women are allowed to be intelligent sporty and beautiful .

Jen See

I can confirm that there is no bottle opener in my flippies!

But I do carry a bottle opener in my surf bag, natch.

Lemon Next to the Pie

What handy tool would a self-respecting surfer girl need in her thongs, (yeah, I said it, because my heart flows with maroon blood laced with the Southern Cross), that would need quicker access than provided by surf bag?

Jen See

I see what you did there 👀👀

Lemon Next to the Pie

Isn’t it purple now? I can’t keep up with the 19th Century anymore.

James Bickerton

It was definitely raining purple for a while there in the 80s

Lemon Next to the Pie

And men. It just took a little longer for the Village People to break on through to the other side of marriage equality. Which women have been grateful for since the dawn of marriage.

James Bickerton

Hallelujah . Now if only Kelly Slater can follow Billy Slater into retirement.

DrunkenAngel

did someone whisper lululemon? me and the bros police our local in these. brand of choice! https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

Jen See

that is amazing, really.

Bleach'd Git

Clicked on the link, read the full story (thanks JS), and when I got to the end there was no comments section.

What is the point of anything if there are no comments? What am I outside of Disqus? What if in Tokyo they hold Olympic Surf Media Trolling in a print magazine? Do I want to do something completely different and go free commenting?

James Bickerton

RedBull offers you wings , not freedom of expression .

Jen See

I will forward you concerns to Red Bull 😀

Bleach'd Git

Well if you tell them Jen I’m sure they’ll listen.

Jen See

Totally. Everyone totally listens to me!

Lemon Next to the Pie

Soul commenting, free from the constraints of anonymity leads down a dangerous path

Nick Carroll

Yes, you end up in Bali with dreadlocks teaching Russians how to soul comment.

Neal Kearney

hahah spot on

throwing disqus

Sri Lanka is the new bali for that life direction.

DrunkenAngel

oh that would be wonderful. kudos to those who can pull that off! dream job.

Bleach'd Git

I saw some fucking lunatic engaging in free commenting with a stranger at the supermarket the other day. Balls the size of watermelons.

Lemon Next to the Pie

Not sure whether the lunatic was literal, or was (bravely, in my imagination), a bloke trying to chat up singles in the vege aisle?

Jen See

Oh huh. Good question. I would have to go back and listen to it again, to be honest. I definitely was interviewing specifically for a print story and wasn’t thinking about how it would work as an unedited audio tape.

I’m not sure how many of her answers would change, because she knows I’m writing a story and will quote her. I almost think it would change what I said more than what my subject did, really. They know they’re on the record. But in a way, I’m not. So I might offer up things in the course of the conversation that I wouldn’t necessarily put in a public recording.

Karl Von Fanningstadt

“Surfing is self-expression, art and sport combined.” (from the full story)
Unfortunately all my surfing tells me is that I’m an unathletic wannabe jock who gets easily frustrated about his lack of ability that only allows him to produce Vorticist garbage.

Jen See

ha ha i feel you, dude, i feel you 🙂


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