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Elitism works: Keep the gates to Hollister Ranch closed; equity is a false god!

Two things can be true at once: someone can be an elitist rich man and also do better for the environment than the snakes in Sacramento could ever hope to be.

(Editor’s note: As you might read last week, the California governor Gavin Newsom, whose beauty brought Chas Smith’s jealousy to its zenith, here, and convinced him to pursue a life as a male model, a dream that would founder despite Chas’ height and a sprawling hair, signed open the exclusive beaches at Hollister Ranch, in Santa Babs County. It was a biggish story and we had two writers on the case, although neither took up the mantle. Here, a new kid on the block, Tyler Tsuji, whom I know very little of except he has a functioning email account and trim hair, takes up the case for keeping the gates closed.)

Hollister Ranch is a sacred place that is seldom brought up in writing and ought to stay that way. But, in order to defend something, you have to be able to talk about it.

As a way of introducing this, I think it would be good to give some of my background info. I am a seventh generation Californian from Somis, California in the lower 805 studying Ag. Engineering at Cal Poly SLO. The heritage of this state is something I hold extremely dear to my heart. My family helped found Los Angeles (before the Owens Valley water was stolen).

I’ve grown up surfing the underground and also media blown-up spots from Point Mugu to Point Conception and have a strong connection to the area since I was born.

I don’t own property at Hollister.

I’ve surfed it before and have friends and acquaintances with access and ownership of parcels, but I’m not “one of those elitists” as the government bureaucrats love to say.

The idea of opening up such sacred land is totally asinine. Hollister Ranch is the only remaining example of what California used to be. This heritage of Old California is what I live and breath. It is what drives my studies as an Ag. Engineering student, my aspirations in agriculture, and my recreation as a surfer.

I’ve grown up with stories of the old days, the citrus orchards that once were the San Fernando Valley, and tales of Joe Quigg flying through the Rincon Rivermouth on a self-made pintail on what is now known as a “call-box” wave.

This is why I am so passionate about this issue. It is because Hollister Ranch is a completely unique synthesis of the Old California cattle trade, old-school style surfing, and Chumash tradition. There is no other place on this planet, let alone state, that carries this heritage, spirit, and ethos in one place.

Hollister Ranch is what California used to be. Dale Velzy used to ride to the South Bay as a kid on horseback to camp and go surfing. Yet ever since Mulholland brought water to Los Angeles we’ve been cast out of Eden. As a child, I was raised in the tension that the specter of development brought to an agricultural community. The threat of development from Conejo Valley suburbia was always present as I grew up and still is there.

I know what the sold-out bureaucrats are really saying when they pitch “access” and “equal opportunity”. Don’t be hypnotized by their promises of social justice and the salvation they promise to grant if you pay your penance on the altar of equity.

I find it absolutely abhorrent these career paper-pushers would dare say (to paraphrase) “Give us your land, look at how we’ve done elsewhere, you’re just a bunch of elitists”.

Really?

Let’s look at how the state government has handled state parks. Let’s take a closer look at how they handled Hetch-Hetchy for the benefit of the Bay Area elites. These central planners turned Yosemite into a smog riddled mess that makes Disneyland look like a Zen temple.

Beware those who clamor for power. If anyone can give me a single example of how government oversight, control, or meddling has improved the quality of living and/or environmental status of an area, I dare them to. Even if the government has kept an area the same, I’ll give them credit.

As snobby and xenophobic as some Hollister owners can sometimes be, it is a simple fact that they (and the Nature Conservancy at Cojo-Jalama Ranch) are the strongest example of how private ownership and enterprise do eternally better than these posers in Sacramento and San Francisco.

Two things can be true at once: someone can be an elitist rich man and also do better for the environment than the snakes in Sac. could ever hope to be.

Which brings us to the real meat of the argument.

I’ve explained how the state government doesn’t want Hollister access for environmental reasons, they want it for equity. Equity is a false god. The Coastal Commission knows damn well that the Gaviota Land Conservancy has bought and opened to the public miles of coastline to the east of Hollister. All of it exists at near the same quality as the Ranch, but with the 101 running within a mile of most of the coast (a good thing for public access though!).

None of this land ever gets over-crowded. It’s not like we’re running out of beach umbrella space in the area. This leads to the next plausible reason for the CCC to get involved: surfers.

The only reason Hollister Ranch access is being brought to the fore is because the surf at Hollister is good.

Real good.

So this leads to a rational understanding that the state government is now ostensibly pushing for coastal access for surfers.

Wait. When did a government body, especially a California one, ever advocate for surfers?

That never has happened.

Ulterior motives are the next reasonable assumption for the state’s interference in this matter. Very simply, the state of California would like nothing more than to have their greasy fingers meddling (oh, sorry, “managing”) in more private property. Two reasons for government meddling today tend to be a potential for increase in tax revenue, an example for them to peddle as evidence for support of the social cause du jour, or a combination of the two.

At this point, the government can ultimately do whatever it wants. But I would like to speak directly to California surfers. They are the only people with enough vested interest to make any change to the course the CCC is currently on.

The idea that one has a right to anyone else’s property isn’t just immoral, it’s downright evil. A quick note to the surfers who are clamoring to open the floodgates: if you’re too much of a pussy to boat or paddle in, walk to the “first spot past the gate” on a negative tide, or work your ass off and sacrifice to buy into a parcel then that ought to be your own problem.

I generally understand and like the “high tide” rule in California, but I don’t see how anyone can go from a reasonable rule like that to then say that you are entitled to pave over ranchers’ land and walk over it to get to a beach that is just as uncrowded and pristine and good as one just to the east (and a quick five-minute hike off the 101) that’s already open to the public.

What’s so funny is that this goes back to the original Eden dilemma our forefathers met in the fifties with the Hollister family. The Santa Barbara Surf and Sportsman’s Club was founded to prevent the cow-tipping, graffiti, and trash that “down-souther” surfers brought up with them when they surfed the Ranch.

The solution to keep the peace and whole soul of the place that makes the place attractive was to regulate the place. First, that took the form of the club. Now it takes the form of property ownership.

It’s a simple principle that people who own things take care of them. No one washes a car they rent. What is hilarious is that these administrators think that by opening up a sacred and pristine place to the general public that those people will have the same respect for the place as the people who had to work threejobs, live in a van, and be in debt for decades just to make having a stake in a parcel possible.

History repeats itself and I hope our governing bodies have the wisdom to learn from the history of this place to avoid losing the last remaining cradle of California’s soul and traditions.

Hollister Ranch is a place I aspire to.

It’s what I think of when I have to bite the bullet and pull an all-nighter for work or school in the pursuit of the income required to own a parcel. The fact that people want to just cheat through life and act entitled to the things other people worked for is a sign of the times.

My message to surfers is, if you want to surf there, have a backbone and put in the time to earn a place there.

You’re not entitled to easy access there and as anyone who has surfed the rest of the 805 before ought to know, you aren’t entitled to a spot in the lineup either.

But with both, if you put your head down and put in the work and respect with humility, there is plenty of room.

(Do you have a little extra cash? Buy, here, now!)

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watermark0n
watermark0n
5 years ago

A blatantly compensated opinion.

Christopher Stebbins
Christopher Stebbins
6 years ago

“The idea that one has a right to anyone else’s property isn’t just immoral, it’s downright evil.”
Be sure to never travel anywhere, especially more evolved countries.

“The only reason Hollister Ranch access is being brought to the fore is because the surf at Hollister is good.”
No, it’s not, it’s about a California statute about public access to the beach.

“Beware those who clamor for power.”
Yeah, your parents and fellow fraternity brothers.

llaumann
llaumann
6 years ago
FelipesFrontFoot
FelipesFrontFoot
6 years ago

Take California

John Non John
John Non John
6 years ago

NonJohn will develop a tram tube transport company that will take you from The Ranch to Little Dume in no time at all. Scheduling will be synched with the arrival of set waves.

llaumann
llaumann
6 years ago

Here is a little background to help you understand why the Ranch Owners don’t have a prayer in court, and have resorted to spamming Comment sections, like this one.

Coastal private property in California is different than non-coastal private property. There is a law called the Coastal Act of 1976. It says that coastal homeowners MUST provide access to the beach AS A CONDITION of being issued a Coastal Development Permit. So, you see, the Ranch Owners agreed to, consented, and accepted their obligation for Public Access when they were given their Coastal Development Permits. Public access by land *will be legally purchased* from the Ranch in the next 2 years. That land access (called an easement) will likely cost millions of dollars, and it will be paid with the fees collected from the Ranch coastal development permits.

In 1982, the Ranch Owners blocked entrance to the people who arrived at the Ranch to appraise the land to purchase the right-of-way. They had no right to do that, because they had already agreed to provide public access to the coast. Nearly 38 years later, we are asking that those appraisers be allowed to do their job, so the easement can be purchased.

Beef & Beer
Beef & Beer
6 years ago
Reply to  llaumann

Interesting
Oh well in that case, it’s surprising that appraisers etc didn’t get the sheriff (or similar) to ensure they could get their legally designated job done back in 1982.
What will have happened to the 38 yrs of fees which were to be used for the easement purchase ?

llaumann
llaumann
6 years ago
Reply to  Beef & Beer

Here is the rest of the story, from Court documents.

“The State Coastal Conservancy and the Commission attempted to implement the revised [1982 Hollister Ranch Public Access] program immediately, but were still unable to overcome staunch landowner opposition and gain access to the property. Without the necessary appraisal data, the Conservancy had no way to determine the cost of acquiring the necessary public access easements. Without knowing the costs, staff could not calculate the value of the in-lieu fees necessary to fund the acquisition of the land interests necessary to carry out the program. The agencies were unable to move forward.

Later that year, the Public Works Board requested that the Attorney General obtain a court order for both agencies to enter the gated subdivision. The request was granted, but the 1982 election of Governor George Deukmejian, who was openly opposed to the Coastal Commission and its mandate, had changed the political dynamic around public access, and the program was shelved. Over time, it sank into obscurity. “

Beef & Beer
Beef & Beer
6 years ago
Reply to  llaumann

Far out
Wouldn’t be surprising if this Duekmejian fellow (or his family or friends) is/was one of the landholders…

Sock Puppet
Sock Puppet
6 years ago

Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. People need to realize these spots will become so overcrowded that the waves there will be just as inaccesible as they are now. The major point break will be fine in the same way that Rincon or El Cap is “fine”. But some of the smaller barreling reef breaks with tight take off zones will have so many people out that getting a set to yourself off the pack will be harder than buying a cheap zodiac and boating in. Sure, you’ll be able to try, but on a practical level those waves (which are world class) will be just as inaccessible as they are now.

As someone who doesn’t own land or have a reliable way to access the place (I haven’t been there in 15+ years) I don’t like the current situation. But there’s a real chance that what’s going to happen will be worse.

shootsthen
shootsthen
6 years ago

This kid is a “seventh generation Californian” and he doesn’t have land and a trust fund? Poor kid.

Jsamuels
Jsamuels
6 years ago
Reply to  shootsthen

I’m pretty sure he does, he’s just conveniently leaving that part out.

llaumann
llaumann
6 years ago
Reply to  shootsthen

Maybe he meant “Seventh-Grade Californian”. That damn spell check!

Sunovabeach
Sunovabeach
6 years ago

100%

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
6 years ago

Hahah my man is studying Ag. Eng. at Cal Poly – so he’s maybe… 22? And he loooooves abbreviations. And the 805, obviously. And “heritage.”

But let me ask you, Tyler: do you know your greatest heritage as a Mustang? That’s right – you and I both walked the same hallowed halls as the man who will one day be remembered as the Greatest American of the 20th Century.

Weird Al Yankovic.

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
6 years ago

For real though, fuck this guy.

Huli Opu
Huli Opu
6 years ago
Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
6 years ago
Reply to  Huli Opu

Got his start at the campus radio station.

SinglefinDook
SinglefinDook
6 years ago

Fuck yeah bro. Love it!!!

Shamus Beaglehole
Shamus Beaglehole
6 years ago

wtf? this kid was born long long long after all of this happened

SoCalGary
SoCalGary
6 years ago

Hey Tyler, so you had me thinking hard about some of your points, but you really lost me at the end – such a shame. The following quote truly lays out your personal view on “owning waves”. You’re not entitled to easy access there and as anyone who has surfed the rest of the 805 before ought to know, you aren’t entitled to a spot in the lineup either. To clarify, do you feel the pain of the challenge of trying to get a “spot” in the lineup, or feel that outsiders do not have the right to surf a spot where they are not part of the local (enforcement) crew?

The list of California spots with local crew assholes, from Sunset Cliffs, La Jolla, Blacks, Cardiff, Swami’s, O’SIde Harbor, Trestles, Salt Creek, any Newport Jetty, Huntington (my keyboard is tired) …. and hundreds of others in California and around the world is crazy. Do you really think the people who bought shares of land to get access to the Ranch are afraid of their parcel shares being paved over with a strip mall? No, they don’t want a bunch of VAL’s rolling deep into the ranch and taking their waves. But I am sure that they don’t care at all if we boat or walk in… Yeah. Lets all try that and see how welcome we are at “sharing” a few waves.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

I like Tyler’s historical references, theory and jokes…. well said amigo. I tend to agree with your central theory.

Reality is, there are so many partial owners and trucks on the beach that the place is already crowded for a very inconsistent area. And why mention the areas to the East Tyler? Lost me there man. The idyllic ranch of the mat riders era (Innermost Limits) is long gone.

Surfed the whole damn place including Bixby for four decades, the charm is a ghost. Amount of boats and ski’s is profound with modern forecasting. The “locals” or club members just own access in many cases. The sale of your sacred ground was commenced long ago, it’s just now going public.

Maybe the state was so fucking sick of the wench vandalism from these pious locals? How many repairs can the state park system absorb from these entitled “owners” or stewards of THEIR environment. If your argument is in conscious boating in, you can’t escape the petty vandalism.

I dunno. Main thing I I wonder about is why the fuck is the govie even bothering with Hollister when the rest of the state is in free fall decline?

And the walk in argument is ridiculous, just stop. Blades is an overrated field of take off zones and good luck making it to the nearby gems on foot. Huge roll of the dice walking in to govies zone… when you know it’s going to be good so does SB harbor.

Save your money to buy a ranch parcel and get on a fucking plane amigo. California, Uber Alles. Jello said it best.

SectionSB
SectionSB
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Spot on Hippy…back in the day, cowboys with rifles kicked our packs over etc at Razors…we were thinking “oh Noes” no lunch….but the knuckleheads just left the peanut butter sandwiches alone in their baggies!!! Haha. surf on!

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  SectionSB

We were shot at with rock salt…. rancher aimed for the nose of my board and put a huge ding in it. Remember Andy? Fucking sociopath.

SectionSB
SectionSB
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Wow.. walking he hit your board? In the 70’s guys always said, sheriffs are a long long way away, so dont get in trouble. I obeyed the lineup rules and seemed to fair ok, but I could always outpaddle most anyone. haha no any more!!!
I went in and out to the ranch over the years, really too much of a hassle for me compared to the con or closer to town. Was schooled at UCSB for abit, and thats when we wouuld walk in.
I was always warned about Andy (I thot Arne?)..one day, 19802 early… boating in we had lost anchor,(forgot to set pin in and threw it overboard haha, typical ranch move) so one guy surfed and the other drifted around in our Kennedy skiff.
Peewee little Dr’s but who cared, it was surfable, and just me out.
I came in to just lie on the sand and warm up. Suddenly woke up to this hulk of a guy spewing and swearing and being insane.(he had driven up to me in his toyota) I was so blissed out, (herbs too) I was kinda like “wow dude whats wrong?”..he was just off the rails nuts. I paddled back out to boat thinking, “heres a guy in his little paradise, and it had made him insane, trying to protect it, and here I am, a visitor, and it really just gave me a huge dose of peace”…I mean, it was just a perfect little day. A really pure memory, even with him. He was like some weird archetype of bad.
I guess his anger got the better of him and he blew up from the inside
.Didnt he have a son to carry that nonsense on? Or was the son better?
I dunno, place is great to dream about looking at a poster from the past, but things move on…
Oh and the angle of light there? Western Gate indeed.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  SectionSB

Yeah bro, same guy…. your story is so familiar.

1981 and the state park is closed (?) due to vandalism, so we drove to Tarantula’s and it’s fucking big. The right is so sketchy and the left was busy with the Lompoc cats showing up in numbers.

Decision was made at dawn to walk to Govie’s. Scored ridiculous waves, but the tide turned the point into two sections and I knew Percos was going to get good…. in fact, it was flawless.

Surfed the entire day, dusk as we packed up our shit, burned a fattie and began the walk…. but we had not brought flash lights! Decision was made to walk out the road to the Jalama side gate and we were about half way through when the Toyota pick up truck spun past us headed for the main house. He pointed at us and returned with some type of rifle.

I’m carrying my 6’8″ in one arm, a 7’2″ in the other and suddenly I hear a pop, then my 6’8″ gets ripped from my hands. Dude shot rock salt and almost took off my nose.

The lecture then started, warnings, threats…. dude was livid. I walked back to the train tracks for safety, surely he could not shoot us on the tracks and it was a long walk back.

Coupe years later, we camped at Cojo. You could petition the state for a 3 day pass, but you had to sign in with Andy. Dude was as unfriendly as he could possibly be and we had a state signed docu to validate our visit. He checked on us every fucking hour…. like he had nothing else to do.

Few years later, went to Lompoc for dinner following a session at T’s. You know the country bar/grill. We walk in and every head turned as if we were black. Who’s there but drunken Andy, king of the hill. Waitress was rude and I said something obnoxious and Andy visits the table. I saw the gun in his truck parked outside, so I asked him if that was salt pellets or did he have a real gun now? Dude went ballistic and we were forced to take our meal to go.

SectionSB
SectionSB
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

wow, quite some tales! You know, I didnt go there much, but every freaking time I went, something insane seemed to happen. Hoists breaking, insane winds, guys lighting their boats on fire, guards taking our boards, trains derailing….jeez, ya think it might be cursed??? haha Blessed and Cursed!!

Probably thousands of stories like yours, although that Lompoc story sounds pretty personal.. I’m gonna ask around see what was his deal. (you know the other andy? over at home improvement SB now…..he has some tales, half seem bullshit though, karate master etc etc. man he can talk)
So ranchass basically patrolled both north and south? Surprised he didnt ever run into someone who would throw down. Or worse.
The whole vibing thing we all dealt with? And deal out? Funny how one can be when you’ve scored it empty and some guy comes down the beach. No ! go away!!! My waves!! Even friends sometimes. No backsiders today!!
I pretty much gave up going anywhere and just hit the old reliable favorite point. So many waves, so much room to move.

( ha just remembered when I finally figured out where the strand was, not that its hard, but people dont share!! Anyways, pulled up in my ancient VW just kinda freaked out that anyone would come and hassle me…sure enough some guy comes up….and offers to share a joint!!! Fuck I was so relieved. could ahve gone the other way of course…but I was pretty poverty stricken so boards and car fit in alot of places…….but jeez, that whole scene, one can get good at getting in and out of a place before trouble hits. I’m not into fighting, I had serious addiction to waves, and really couldnt think of much else. Man, weird shit those waves!
ok…too much coffee for me, off to work…later

Abscessed Llama
Abscessed Llama
6 years ago

Two or three storms back. I drove four hours to get on a small ferry w/ two surfboards, tent, food water etc. Hiked 2.5 hours around a point through sand and mosquito riddled coast. Reaching a sandbar where east winds blow onshore for the rest of the coast to meet incoming south swell square and perfect. Pitched my tent and waited for the wave height and period to reveal a wave thats only been whispered about.
I’m a lifelong surfer.

I have a problem with Tyler’s statement “You’re not entitled to easy access there and as anyone who has surfed the rest of the 805 before ought to know, you aren’t entitled to a spot in the lineup either.” A surfer’s dream its to travel and surf foreign regions of the world. On average the surfers of 805 and surrounding area whom Tyler holds in high regard for work ethic and lifestyle. Travel to more foreign and exotic surf destinations than the most. I can only imagine very few of those individuals pause before paddling straight into the apex of a lineup. Yet warn and declare the same approach is not welcome at there local Edin.

Lucky enough for my effort the swell arrived not epic but well worth the effort. A close and longtime surf friend was anchored behind the finger of sand on his 30′ Alberg “Litmus”. We surfed for two days and sailed back out into the open ocean as the storm approached seeking refuge in a coastal town two centuries ago pirates used for safe harbor.

Shamus Beaglehole
Shamus Beaglehole
6 years ago

lemee guess… shackleford banks?

Dave Mailman
Dave Mailman
6 years ago

I’ve never surfed the Ranch and never will, but I’m totally for keeping it private and boat in only. Some things need to be protected.

M.
M.
6 years ago

So, I know this is BG, but could we have some facts?

– How much of the land is currently used for agriculture?
– How many properties were build since parcels were split off from the original ranch?
– How much land will be, effectively, taken away?

I’m not saying there isn’t a case for keeping the land private, but usually when people argue with a lot of panache and little facts, they are wrong and they know it.

Jsamuels
Jsamuels
6 years ago
Reply to  M.

All the land is “used” for agriculture, meaning there’s a handful of cows grazing. Any real agriculture does not exist on those parcels.

SectionSB
SectionSB
6 years ago
Reply to  Jsamuels

I wonder how much each animal “saves” in overall tax dollars.Maybe i could apply for a tax break for all the parrots we have? Sell a coupla eggs!! Tax break in Cito!!! haha

llaumann
llaumann
6 years ago
Reply to  Jsamuels

There are 1800 cows on Hollister Ranch. The court documents are public, and they detail just about everything in this case.

llaumann
llaumann
6 years ago
Reply to  M.

Actually, no single persons’ “private property” needs to be purchased to provide public access. Public access will likely be provided by shuttle van from Gaviota, over the existing road and the shared “common areas” at the beaches. While technically this is “private property” on the Ranch, it is shared property between the Ranch Owners. They agreed to, consented to, and acknowledged that they would provide Public Access to the coast, as a condition of their Coastal Building Permits.

You can read the “1982 Hollister Ranch Plan Public Access Program” on the website of the California Coastal Commission and submit your ideas by email at [email protected] in development of the updated 2021 Plan.

M.
M.
6 years ago
Reply to  llaumann

Thanks for the info.

llaumann
llaumann
6 years ago
Reply to  llaumann

Here is the rest of the story…

“The State Coastal Conservancy and the Commission attempted to implement the revised [1982 Hollister Ranch Public Access] program immediately, but were still unable to overcome staunch landowner opposition and gain access to the property. Without the necessary appraisal data, the Conservancy had no way to determine the cost of acquiring the necessary public access easements. Without knowing the costs, staff could not calculate the value of the in-lieu fees necessary to fund the acquisition of the land interests necessary to carry out the program. The agencies were unable to move forward.

Later that year, the Public Works Board requested that the Attorney General obtain a court order for both agencies to enter the gated subdivision. The request was granted, but the 1982 election of Governor George Deukmejian, who was openly opposed to the Coastal Commission and its mandate, had changed the political dynamic around public access, and the program was shelved. Over time, it sank into obscurity. “

llaumann
llaumann
6 years ago
Reply to  llaumann

And this is why they are trying to recall Governor Newsom and/or stall until a new governor is installed.

LostEmission
LostEmission
6 years ago

If anyone can give me a single example of how government oversight, control, or meddling has improved the quality of living and/or environmental status of an area, I dare them to. Even if the government has kept an area the same, I’ll give them credit.

Clean Air Act from the California Air Resources Board? Wasn’t LA a smog ridden hell hole in the 60’s? Surface ozone levels are dramatically down, as are nitrogen oxides, compared to the 60’s. All through the effort of scientists/engineers/citizens working with politicians and regulators to have an environmental impact. I’d say that’s a pretty big change to quality of life.

Then again, I guess private industry would have regulated themselves, so maybe we should have left them get on with it…

Dave Mailman
Dave Mailman
6 years ago
Reply to  LostEmission

Napoleon planting importing a bunch of pine saplings from the Black Forest in Germany and planting them in Les Landes to transform the marshlands from Lacanau to Bayonne and create all the great beachbreaks in the southwest of France. A long time ago, I know, but you asked!

Mads Naeraa
Mads Naeraa
6 years ago
Reply to  LostEmission

Sweden has “Allamansrätten”, roughly translated as Every Man’s Right (of way). It means that there common access to ALL LAND, with government oversight and control. It is most definitely for the good of the land and the people.

Anti pollution laws.

40 hour work week.

Abolition of child slavery.

Just a few examples. Look at countries doing really well, where standards of living are high and depression levels low. They aren’t the No Government fantasies of the far right.

SectionSB
SectionSB
6 years ago
Reply to  LostEmission

Correct, used to be hideous in LA.. Red eyes, coughing. You can actually see across the valley floors now. I live up in SB, and the whole coast had bad air issues. Even though theres a gazillion more people, the air quality is still “reasonable”

ricmatic
ricmatic
6 years ago
Reply to  LostEmission

Not to labour the point

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

Dung beetle
Dung beetle
6 years ago

It’s so quaint he thinks pulling an all nighter at college is getting him closer to owning his slice of the ranch.

Jsamuels
Jsamuels
6 years ago
Reply to  Dung beetle

It is when his family is one of the founding families of Los Angeles and probably has more than enough money for him to purchase a parcel just as soon as he turns 25 and receives his first chunk of the inheritance.

timsluis
timsluis
6 years ago

I started reading this with 6 fucks to give and finished with half a dozen cos thats how many fucks I have to give about American state politics. I lie, I didn’t actually read to the end.


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