Malibu BLM protest. | Photo: Jamie Tierney

Solidarity: Malibu millionaires protest police killing of “Gentle Giant” George Floyd!

We yearn to rebel. It’s in our blood and we usually make a mess of it.

“Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.”
– W.B. Yeats

I never would have read Yeats if it wasn’t for Joan Didion.

She used him for the opening of the best essay I’ve ever read, “Slouching Towards Bethlehem” where she exposed the ugly side of Haight Ashbury in the Summer of Love circa 1967 in a way that was as hard and bare and truthful as the iPhone videos of the light slowly going out in George Floyd’s eyes.

Ms Didion’s still around. I wonder what she thinks about what happened in Santa Monica over the weekend.

Has anyone asked her?

Does it feel like deja vu?

A never ending circle of shit?

I think she’d get a whiff of the red tide that’s lingered in the bay for weeks and say, “There is something uneasy in the Los Angeles air this afternoon, some stillness, some tension.”

I had a feeling what would happen in Santa Monica and stayed away.

I saw it firsthand in Oakland and Berkeley in 1992.

I felt it coming in Huntington Beach a month ago.

Americans just aren’t built for this.

You take kids of out school, you keep us locked down, you don’t let us make a living, you try to force control and something snaps.

We yearn to rebel. It’s in our blood and we usually make a mess of it.

Whether it’s Trump supporters refusing to wear masks in Costco or suburban kids in designer clothes casually walking down the street with stolen surfboards under their arms, the Eric Cartman level of arrogant ignorance is the same: “It’s my body, and I’ll do what I want.”

In Joan’s 1967, the world still had Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy and Jimi Hendrix. The protests had leaders, demands. They fought and bled for the end of Jim Crow and the war in Vietnam.

They thought they were making progress.

Now we’ve got moneyed teens hopping in Ubers to go and loot shopping malls and a reality show insane clown president tear gassing protesters so he get can his picture taken holding a Bible in front of a church.

And it’s all a distraction from this:

Less than 200,000 people in America were in jail in 1970. Now there’s 2.1 million behind bars. Forty-six percent of them are in for drug offenses. Five times more blacks are locked up than whites and they’re more than twice as likely to be killed by police.

We’ve traded an overt form of bondage and segregation to one that’s quieter and more ruthless.

I saw three white people in Malibu today holding signs and asking people to honk their horns in support of Black Lives Matter.

I’m sure they meant well but their town is 1.2% African American.

I live in Inglewood (yes, I got priced out of Venice) and my neighbors would have laughed if they’d seen them.

Unlike 1992, it’s quiet here now. Really hope it stays that way.

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Otto
Otto
6 years ago

I love how my wife has brought gun terms into bedroom talk. Telling me to “chamber a round”, ” that shot really had some kick to it! Helluva recoil!”
Foxy Lady!

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago

Tastes like chicken

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago

You’d be left right out.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

things that make you go hmmmm….

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Yes, but No.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

who are you?

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Passion flowers are gorgeous. Intricate stamens competing for light. Back pedal striations that architects can not recreate. Symmetry as art is almost unthinkable, but it is in Passion blooms.

Who are you VONR?

SectionSB
SectionSB
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

and the craziest grabbing tendrils ever. I’ve been trying to control a few, but they keep outsmarting me. Huge one on SYsdro sidewalk gives lots of fruit, it toppled a tree into street after overtaking it. Owners arent even aware it has escaped and taking over. Ok resume discussion

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

comment magic.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago

Uh-oh. DJ Gorilla at the controls! I was rocking this version:
/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fv...

bamber
bamber
6 years ago
Gwen Walz’s Eyes
Gwen Walz’s Eyes
6 years ago

Tear gas story fake news.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago

Yo that’s some white ass bruthas!!
https://youtu.be/l_-ZP9KQ3mc

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago

There’s only been one war on drugs and that was, is, in the philippines, one where they kill you if your involved on the spot, some civilians killed just like in a war,
The drug guys fully lost.
But they’ll be back when the next liberal progressive Pres gets in
Duterte made it very clear if elected that’s what he would do.
People said do it.
Tuff one for me cause I like drugs.
But the people spoke

rwvbwl
rwvbwl
6 years ago

Go + get a f**kin’ short~board!

https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

rwvbwl
rwvbwl
6 years ago
Reply to  rwvbwl

Not a long~board!!!
https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  rwvbwl

aren’t long boards super expensive?

slaters foot
slaters foot
6 years ago

Wait… someone used history, actual data, a dash of humor and a critical eye to make a point without being preachy? I’m confused i thought the internet was just for shouting through a keyboard.

SSD
SSD
6 years ago

A dreaded sunny day so Ill meet you at the cemetery gates…

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  SSD

Welcome back Brother!
I had to step back for a moment from here some 4 weeks back. Got awakened by my dog at 3am when he clutched my wrist in his teeth. He’d never done that so my first thought was the house is on fire. Alarms weren’t going off and didn’t smell smoke. Next thought was someone broke into my house. Grabbed my handgun, told dog to stay at the top of stairs while I went to check it out. Left the lights off. Rounded the kitchen corner and sure as shit, there was a POS fucking with the backyard slider. Exited from door on other side of house. Made my way around to find him unaware of how bad his situation was about to get. Ordered him to get on the ground. He fled for the fence into the neighbor’s backyard. Pulled him back into my yard. He started to get up, then saw my gun and froze. I told him do exactly what I say or I will “park a round in your brain pan!” Face.down, legs crossed and arms out to your side, palms up like your fucking crucified! If you move, I’ll consider you a threat to my life and I will end you! Funny things is, then I had the strangest thought. I hoped I wouldn’t have to shoot him cause I didn’t want his scumbag ghost roaming my otherwise serene backyard for eternity. Anyways, the wife woke up, freaked out. Had her call the cops. Cuffed and gone. Later that morning, packed a couple bags for wife and I, grabbed key from close friend for his river house and bounced for 5 days. Had to get the wife into a better place mentally, get her confidence back. Went through shooting drills in the desert. Got her on a ski for turns behind the boat. She’s still a little freaked out, but she’s learned to channel that into anger and confidence with her skills.
Now we got dumbfucking Antifa fuckwits running around and she’s chomping at the bit to smoke one. Ha!
Anyways, good seeing you back Brother.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

I was so with you until you went dull.

Do you support Fascists?

Thing about your situation is, pulling that trigger changes your life for months at least. Sure, you deterred a threat, but now you gotta start thinking about lawyers and coppers and courts and then maybe your conscience. Maybe.

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Do you really think Trump is fascist? Is not the end game of a fascist to rule under a socialist regime? Much like communism, no?
How then can you label Trump a fascist? He’s just the President, he doesn’t make law. And at most he’ll be in office 8 years. Obama and Biden had 8 years, including Ferguson as a matchstick to effectuate change. What happened? You think Biden can accomplish something bow that he either couldn’t, or wouldn’t in 8 years?

And yes, of course I’d be bummed if more violence had occurred in my situation. But I tell you what, when a tweaker isn’t panhandling as much cause people are locked up in their houses, that tweaker gets grandiose ideas, that are not only foolhardy, but dangerous. I gave him the choice to stop being dangerous. At.that point, the ball was in his court to either stop or face the consequences. He sure as fuck wasn’t going anywhere by jail on my watch. And I’m more than okay exercising the option of terminating him if the situation necessitated such action to protect my family.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

They honestly and truly believe that Trump is Superman gone bad.
I just think he’s a guy doin his job

Otto
Otto
6 years ago

They’ve sure tried their darnedest to paint him as Lex Luther.
Not once, not a single instance, have the Left, in Congress or the media, even attempted at putting forth some recognizable effort towards working with the Trump Administration for the betterment of the American people.
When General Grant met with General Lee on April 8th, 1865 to execute General Lee’s unconditional surrender, a man on Grant’s staff by the name of General Palmer, a member of the Seneca Tribe drafted the documents. General Lee was insultes by that. The Democrats would later embark upon a quest to withhold equal protection under the law from blacks. A quest that rears its ugly head to this day. Republicans have always been willing to work with minorities.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Hey Otto, the Republican Senators held a meeting after Obama was elected and pledged to obstruct any legislation and restrict his naming of judges (garland). That was literally their plan.

Republicans HATED Trump until they fell in line lock step. Google L Graham’s video flip flopping from hatred to defense.

Consider the ACA. For nearly a decade, Republicans whinged and fought and promised to repeal. Time came and they had the votes, BUT, they had never once crafted a plan to REPLACE. Glaring fuck up. But their focus was not on health care of needing Americans, it was about retribution. Just one example.

Uneducated
Uneducated
6 years ago

Wouldn’t have thought there is too much debate about that, more just about what type of man, and what type of job
Never thought of him as superman, but I have definitely changed my opinion of him in the last 3 years
Pretty sure most people have come to a conclusion about him by now, that won’t change, that’s why I stay away from discussions about him as best I can…but it’s not easy
If I had to pick a fictional character I think I would go with Jabba the Hutt

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Uneducated

Don’t worry
Your boy will be there in 4 years
Black tranny probly

Uneducated
Uneducated
6 years ago

Dam it Bex, it happened one time, and now I’m branded for life?
I always maintain, if you can’t tell the difference with your naked eye…is there really a crime being committed?

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Uneducated

No, it’s fine.
I didn’t say anything negative did I?
Can’t wait…

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago

I know no US banks will lend him money. And he had to shut down a university named after him for defrauding people. And his kids embezzled money from a cancer charity. And 20+ women have credibly accused him of sexual assault. And he mocks Gold Star families. He also doesn’t surf. But maybe I’m missing something?

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago

Not friends with pedos

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago

Yeah, when he walked in on the 15 year old miss universe girls as they were changing is totes normal.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

He’s prominently by Epstein’s side in the doco bexy… have a look on netty

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Really?
Oh well
That shouldn’t bother the dems

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

You check out that doco?

It felt short to me. Missed the central story and seemed to avoid civil liability. Much more meat on those bones.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Reminded me of Andy Iron’s revisionist history sponsored by Billafuck.

No matter how many versions, they can only go so far… not even scratching the truth.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Yeah it’s all tinged with an agenda
Like Micheal Moore latest doco

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Not even comparable. Light years.

Moore may not appeal to you, but he doesn’t lie. And he skewered Obama, doesn’t play one way street.

You would like him if he wasn’t an overweight American.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

No it’s not I don’t like him it’s just everything is bullshit, trump is bullshit, Derek and Chas are bullshit, WSL is bullshit, but you still gotta pick a side

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Derek is straight up. Chas has wiggle. Isn’t that ironic?

Trump is a carnie. Side picked. In my case, I had no choice because I loathe douche bags. Some people accept them.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

He’s a character
Very entertaining.
Loves his country.
Calls out the kooks

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

I love “characters’… surfing is all characters. Artists too. Kinks.

The orange clown loves himself, not any country. Like your Murdoch, end justifies any means.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Nah
It’s looks to depressing
Been watching Gmeds greatest hits

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

I’m fascinated by Ghislaine.

I had to watch.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

why do you like Trump?

he’s fake orange, bad combover, bankrupt in multiple ways, FAT AS FUCK, and lies as a first option.

not sure how anyone looks at him and says, that’s my guy.

and he was a punk long before that TV show bailed him out. pussy too.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Cause he’s better than the others,
What, you think I think he’s perfect?
You gotta just go with the best of a shit bunch.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Others?

He’s a fucking pussy, why would a surfer who tackled Sydney’s biggest swell in decades last week support a full on pussy? Lying sack of shit too. Why?

You’re not even a yankee doodle

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Well I was out at 4-5 foot fathanders, so ain’t no hellman no more.
Hilary was the choice?
You guys made the right choice.
I’m Conservative

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

I love novelty shit that doesn’t break often. When I saw all the buildings in the back ground I know where you are. I was surprised by Sydney’s beaches a long time ago, not any more.

There is an island cross your straight. Main city has a harbor and on the west coast, far inside the small harbor mouth, there are a series of mini point breaks. I fucking scored my first run through it. Memorable stuff, groomed inside the maelstrom open ocean in clear view.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Yeah it’s a great place and I’ve seen a few places!
We got about 30 ocean beaches in Sydney metro
And lots of nooks and crannies.
Can’t complain.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Sydney is the best surf city in the world.

Not even close.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

You’re not even scratching the surface DHMF. How many bankruptcies where he skips free and his vendors get fucked? I’ve worked two of his hotels, filled with “illegal” workers. Emoluments. Duetche bank is the only one we know of that would touch him, he is that toxic. Of course, my belief is there is Russian money behind him or extorting him. Rudy partying with Lev. Flynn. Secret meetings to discuss adoptions. I don’t want any party leader having so many shady “close calls”…. Manafort, Cohen…. Bill Barr is a criminal. Rudy G??? Fucking clown. Dershowitz is all over that Eppy movie. He’ll defend any money. The lists of compromises is long.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Oh, he’s fully owned by Russia (which is now global) mafia. His dad had a damn brothel wrapped up by the Italian mob which became wrapped into Russian mafia. Conway’s dad was fucking mafia. And who paid off Kavanaugh’s debts?

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

exactly. How would you take control of a foreign country without firing a bullet.

Loan them substantial money and black mail them.

US has been doing that very thing to so many countries for so long.

Biggest danger of Trump is he can fuck our courts for decades. There needs to be term limits. 10 years for SC judge. That way they can survive any single prez administration. Lifetime appointments are as slippery a slope as privatized prisons.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

WW3 is playing out on social media via psyops , and via kompromat. Fox news viewers are all casualties.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

What is Kompromat?

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Russian compromise materials. Remember when RNC was hacked in 2016? Remember when meadows says he thinks putin pays 2 people, trump and rohrbacher, and ryan said that stays in the family?

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

I think you did the right thing, what I was bringing up is the consequences of pulling that trigger…. and I believe you would be right to do so if he attacked. I know that if you pull a knife, you better be prepared to use it or die by it. Kinda pure that way. And the tweakers are so very fucked up, lost humans and I don’t know that you can recover from that.

It’s like giving a guy life in prison. My take is, just kill me… cage for life is beyond cruel and there is no reason to keep that person alive. The druggies I know can not be rehabilitated… sad as fuck but one way road.

Fascism and socialism are not the same. I notice that Trump calling out Anti Fascists paints his corner brown. Those that believe his BS about “fake news” (because it contradicts his opinion) suddenly believe news if it points the finger at their “enemy”. ( Confirmation bias) In this case, Antifa. Convenient and the use of boogeymen is a tool of fear.

Remember the “caravan”? You’re a surfer, you know that was geographically impossible, yes? How about the many incarnations of Al Queda? We supplied them in Syria and they drove our stolen oil across Syria… useful idiots. Bush made Bin Laden out to be a genius mastermind that brought a nation to it’s knees with 19 guys and box cutters. I don’t believe that. So many boogeymen, one after another.

But the real domestic terror is in the form of the militia movement that states that it hates government. The Bundys, Proud boys, etc. Antifa is just an opposite ideology, no networks or management, but a convenient boogey man to point the finger at if you can’t point the finger temporarily at black people.

We should be able to debate points and come to common ground. IN times of crisis, the “leader”s responsibility is to unite, not divide. Division is how we got here. That’s it bro.

At the end of the day we are both surfers with lively hoods and we’re doing are best to keep it running best we can. Socialism can never happen here because big money keeps it to themselves. We are the serfs who surf. Predatory capitalism’s victims. Every time you pay middle men for a policy that will fight with attornys to not pay (Insurance), you should wonder why we don’t have a universal plan like every country on earth. It’s not liberal or conservative, it’s efficient.

Governance is not a business. And never worry about business regulations. Those wise guys on Wall Street will figure out a way to game any system, amoral as all fuck and smart enough to mine any loophole.

This huge divide fills when you realize we all have the same challenges. Some just don’t support the machine that creates the divide.

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Surfing is the best. All the noise that occupies our mind space, obligations that feed our worry monster, is left on the beach, even if just for a brief moment.
Hippy, i think we’d get along great out in the line-up. We might just have to enter the water from opposite ends of the beach. Ha.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Those protesters will be trading Blowjobs for mail room jobs on wall street in 3 years

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

They need jobs today. That is why this is happening.

OwenWrong
OwenWrong
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

‘Is not the end game of the fascist to rule under a socialist regime’? Now, since you’re an avowed anti-socialist, aren’t you also anitfa?
That’s the problem right there. Dumb fuck ignorance. How can you possibly criticise something when you plainly have no idea what it means. Instead of waving your hand gun around, try reading something that’s not in a comments section.

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  OwenWrong

You and your simpleton Post-WWII understanding.
“It is too obvious, too easily demonstrable that fascism and communism are not two opposites, but two rival gangs fighting over the same territory—that both are variants of statism, based on the collectivist principle that man is the rightless slave of the state—that both are socialistic, in theory, in practice, and in the explicit statements of their leaders—that under both systems, the poor are enslaved and the rich are expropriated in favor of a ruling clique—that fascism is not the product of the political “right,” but of the “left”—that the basic issue is not “rich versus poor,” but man versus the state, or: individual rights versus totalitarian government—which means: capitalism versus socialism.”

I’m a capitalist.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

It’s always amazing you can’t have a debate witha lefty without them almost straight away personally insulting you

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago

Fuck you and your burqa! It should at least be purple, you rim licker.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago

You’d fit in well in downtown Medina

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago

Will Charlie be there? If so, I’ll pass.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago

Mostly Mohomos and yusefs

Otto
Otto
6 years ago

How does a lefty define self loathing?
Jacking off with their right hand.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

And no vase line.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Good one Otto….

You should be bex’s warm up act on the comedy stage.

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

I do have to pat myself on the back for that on the spot originality.
Right up there with my original favorite:
Why did the WSL Flagship Restaurant fail and go out of business?
There were too many kooks in the kitchen.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

WSL ignores their natural audience. Bad management, 2.0.

By the time Ziff figures it out, his tour will be a tax write off.

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

I think it already is a tax write off. Well, maybe until that pesky profitable venture capital investment in KSWC came sashaying along. But then again, it’s been tough goin’ getting that Post R&D Model built…um, anywhere, so maybe back to tax breakdancing back spins and windmills and stuff.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

WSL, like the decrepit industry, has always searched for more. They can’t accept the ceiling that they’re confronted with.

The move to Sophie was a stab that mismanagement was a surfer thing. All you had to do was run this sport like that.

ELo is a different effort. Create a network of fluff around a dynamic sport they don’t understand. Get ahead of the stories. Rather desperate, but they’re still trying, but active surfers are all but forgotten.

You ever see the Olympics and Bob Costas drones on and on about a bio for a US athlete that doesn’t even qualify for the final day? A fucking waste of tear dropping time in soft lens with sympathetic piano accompaniment.

That is literally their plan.

OwenWrong
OwenWrong
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

You don’t need to say you’re a capitalist. It’s obvious when your political understanding comes from forbes.com. Again, read something from outside your reverb chamber. The state is a creation of the elite to maintain their privilege so any position that it’s not rich vs poor, but man vs state is ridiculously redundant. There wouldn’t be a state if there weren’t an elite defending their ongoing privilege.
I assume the quotes above are indicating that it’s not your thinking, but something you’ve snipped from someone else’s comment section? Maybe just post the link next time, rather than going through the ‘thinking’ of cutting and pasting.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  OwenWrong

Where is this utopia you allude to?
Fascist states are very popular in Africa

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  OwenWrong

What’s wrong with you Owen?
Read something that’s not in a comment section Owen says. Wrighty-O princess. That’s wrong Owen says. Christ, make up your mind princess. You can’t be the princess if you force me to treat you like the Jester.
https://courses.aynrand.org…

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  OwenWrong

Standing ovation Owen Wrong.

I like to call it Money V Humanity. And some of Humanity supports Money????

Counterintuitive.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

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As a capitalist it seems you should be against corporate socialism as delivered by Moscow Mitch…?

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Subsidies, Tax exemptions, Bailouts…. the people are always socializing big business and BB risk.

Moscow Mitch is the most punchable man in the world. Jared next. Jr next. Then Jeff Sessions and Lyndsey G.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Otto, there is no pure system. Everything is a hybrid. You may identify as a capitalist, but the people you owe money too love socialism. Just not for you.

You don’t have to be black and white, the world is grey.

Dung beetle
Dung beetle
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Fascism is a right-wing authoritarian government, one ruler or ruling party with complete control. Socialism is a form of government in which the means of production are owned by the community.
So yes, trump is absolutely a fascist. That’s what he wants.
Are you even aware that he ordered protesters gassed because he wanted a photo op with a bible yesterday?
Trump is rightfully painted by the “left” as a fascist. It’s not even the left, as old Hippy said, plenty of republicans hated him until they decided it better for their political futures to enable him.

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  Dung beetle

Actually it was AG Bill Barr who ordered the area cleared of protestors. And that was only done so cause Barr ordered protestors cleared from the area prior to Trump walking to the church, but when Barr walked out to Lafayette Park before Trump doing so, the federal authorities had not moved the protestors, and a protestors saw Barr and threw a water bottle at him. 1st Amendment right to peaceably assemble doesn’t mean you have the right to protest wherever the fuck you want.

Brutus
Brutus
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

NO , Trumps walk to a burnt out church was him and his family’s idea , as he was pissed at everybody ,who reported his tough empty rhetoric with the Governers on Friday nite and then was cowering in the WH bunker on Sat!
because of the peaceful protestors that were Flashbanged/teargassed to clear his way for a PR stunt….the world now see’s ol Donald as …..the divisive moron he trully is!

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

Yeah the Bishop was more angry he didn’t pray or go in a boarded up church than angry at the cunts that trashed it
Fuken idiot.

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

Uh, yeah, okay Maurice, cause everyone must trust New York Times when they say “described by a person with firsthand knowledge” that Trump hid in the bunker, that such a source of knowledge is so fucking reliable, whoever this “person” is, that it must not only be true, but impervious to skepticism. Fucking hell, the NYT had had persons, sources, probably even a house plant or two with first hand knowledge or familiarity that Trump colluded with the Russians, even though Mueller found NO COLLISION, and it has been subsequently PROVEN that not only did the DNC and Hillary’s campaign pay for the Steele Dossier, but that Christopher Steele used his own Russian $ource for the now debunked Dossier.
Trump not only did a photo-op,he displayed courage in the face of “protestors” that had injured.some 30+ Secret Service and other Park Officers during the previous 3 nights.
But you go ahead and praise Biden for having the gall to speak inside a house of worship where he LIED, fucking LIED saying if Trump had listened to Biden back in January about Biden “saying” we got a problem, that some 40-60K lives would have been saved. EVEN though Biden called Trump’s January 31 travel ban xenophobic, and even though Biden held a fucking campaign rally on March 3 without social distancing or even a fucking mask.
The best thing about your hatred for Trump is that your opinion doesn’t fucking matter. You’re.Australian. You don’t count. Best you spend your time apologizing to all the
Aborigines for your forefathers disgusting behavior. Now hop to it.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

I think Brutus is abo. ???

Your “whataboutism” is telling Otto.

Trump doesn’t show courage, remember, he faked out of the military service. He just hid in a bunker. BIG FUCKING PUSSY. Always has been man.

Mueller didn’t exonerate him. You’re listening to noise.

You’ve swallowed whole Fox memes. It’s ok man, let it go. Fox was founded by a man’s fortune upon Lies, Inuendo, Gossip and Rumor painted as ‘facts”. It’s poison.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Very humble beginnings in adelaide, Mr Murdoch.
Were proud of him here.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

He’s a dirt bag who made money in dirty ways.

His network is opinion, not news. Never strays from a profitable message.

Sheep don’t think, they like to be fed. He knows that.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Yeah well, who’s rich and not a cunt?

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Good question.

Uneducated
Uneducated
6 years ago

That’s top shelf bex

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

cowering.

“Fascism will arrive wrapped in a flag and holding a cross”

Dung beetle
Dung beetle
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Somehow I get the feeling that your views on the Kaepernick protests were similar, something along the lines of, not the right time.
Could it be that any protest you happen to personally disagree with seems wrong to you?

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  Dung beetle

I’m a strict constructionist when it comes to Constitutional rights. The right to protest and have your voice heard is very important to me. It has nothing to do with exercising one’s Constitutional right to peaceably assemble. I encourage it. I agree with how disgusting the actions were of that Minneapolis Police officer who murdered Floyd. However, the Constitutional right to peaceably assemble does not mean that one has to right to attack police, burn buildings, loot stores and other myriad of actions we’ve seen that fall well outside the boundary of what is defined as, not considered to be in the name of protest.
Kaepernick had the right to protest, to voice his position. However, the Constitutional right to peaceably assemble does not give you unfettered right to do as you please in the place of your employment which is a private company. Kaepernick signed a contract of his own free will, which explicitly stated that actions he may do that would result in a business loss to his employer may result in his suspension and/or termination. He was fully informed and agreed to any consequences of his actions. President Trump does not lose his Constitutional right of free expression just because he’s President. He had every right to disagree with Kaepernick. Where does it say we all have to agree with Kaepernick’s right to protest and pay ticket prices without protesting ourselves that “hey Colin, we pay ticket prices that go towards your salary, an income that places you firmly in the 1% of US households. How about you just shut the fuck up and play football when it’s on my dime, not yours.”

Kaepernick never, not one time took a knee where every single one of his teammates joined him. Not once. He’s playing a team sport yet persisted in pushing his “look at me, it’s about me before them, them being my teammates, whom I never wondered about I failed to grasp that maybe my teammates just want to concentrate on the game ahead” schtick.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Dung beetle

Owned by the community.
Hee hee hee

bamber
bamber
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

The Right to bear arms is the problem in the USA. Everybody else in the world sees that and knows that to be true to some degree. All your problems are amplified because of that. ’tis true. Compared to the 30’s Trump is Fascism lite (c) true also. But Guns n’ Racists n’ Burning n’ Looting, during a Pandemic, is not a good look, does not end well. Fuck we are worried.

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  bamber

I watched a fascinating interview tonight. People will dismiss it simply cause it was on a Fox Show (Tucker Carlson), but they should give it a chance, not because it’s Fox, but because who Tucker was interviewing. Bob Woodson.
“Woodson, a former head of the National Urban League Department of Criminal Justice, told Carlson that the civil rights movement promised that if black people led institutions, “all of black America would be better off.”

Woodson told Carlson that he left the movement because he “realized that many of the people who suffered most — poor blacks — do not benefit from the change — that they’re demographics were used by some of those leaders.”

“It’s more class than it is race … and now race is being used to deflect attention away from the failures of people running those institutions,” he added. “The question is why are black kids failing in school systems run by their own people?”

“When Eric Holder was a U.S. Attorney in Washington, D.C., a lot of young people were shot by the police, but they were black police shooting black kids and not one was prosecuted. But there was no public outcry because as long as illegality or evil wears a black face, then it escapes detection and that’s what’s wrong with looking life through the prism of race.”

Woodson also suggested that much of black suffering was the result of Democratic leadership.

“In the past 50 years, $22 trillion has been spent on poverty programs. Seventy percent goes not to the poor but those who serve poor people,” he said.

“So many of those people taking office use this money to create a class of people who are running these cities, and now after 50 years of liberal Democrats running the inner cities, where we have all of these inequities that we have, race is being used as a ruse, as a means of deflecting attention away from critical questions such as why are poor blacks failing in systems run by their own people?

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

I missed that but I saw them roll out Gfloyds 6 Yr old daughter on CNN.
You know they are really stoking the flames on that grubby channel.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

You’d freak if you knew how much more welfare the natives get here than any other color,
We don’t mind.
But it’s never enuff according to the hand wringing white kooks.

janeausten
janeausten
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

The loss in time/ income defending yourself makes killing a home invader a non economically viable prospect.
Plus the expense of a lifetime of treating you and your wife’s PTSD.

C4cereal
C4cereal
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Buy your dog a steak!

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  C4cereal

He deserves the whole cow.

SSD
SSD
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Good to be back! That is fuckin crazy, Otto! Nothing more sketch than someone trying to break in in the middle of the night. Nice work keeping your cool and getting the cops to haul his ass off, shooting the fucker would be heavy. I’ve been there myself except our dogs at the time failed to alert me and I only woke up because it was the window two feet from my bed! Racked the twelve gauge and slammed the window shut then went on my deck and basically did the same from there. That’s an anxious 15-20 minutes wait for the popo. The sketch part was there were 3 more dudes that scrambled behind some rocks. Border Patrol got them and called me the next day to say one of them was a wanted fujitive and the rest gang bangers from TJ/LA. That was the night my fairly liberal wife came around about guns. Real good talking to you, miss the crew here.

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  SSD

Damn! Gang bangers can be sketchy, seeings how most have accepted the fact that they won’t see the age of 30.

Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt
Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt
6 years ago
Reply to  SSD

That’s a scary situation to find yourself in. Good to hear they ran off and got caught. And as Otto said in his situation, you didn’t have to create any gangbanger ghosts to haunt your property for eternity.

SSD
SSD
6 years ago

What’s happening, GH!?!? Miss you, my man!

Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt
Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt
6 years ago
Reply to  SSD

Doing good Scotty. Hanging in there during this no tourist era in Hawaii. They just extended the 14 day quarrantine for all out of state visitors until August 1st. And hardly anybody wants to isolate in a hotel room for 2 weeks straight without being able to go to the lobby or pool or leaving the room for 2 weeks before they begin their vacation, so basically that has killed tourism in Hawaii. They are lifting the 14 day quarrantine for inter island flights on June 16th, so locals from other islands can fly over to other islands again soon. Been surfing, hunting, fishing, riding the dirt bike in the hills because no work, since it’s dependent on tourism mostly. But been getting Pandemic Unemployment Assistance from the state, which is for self employed or independent contractors for the last month, once they got that sorted out. And they just backdated all weeks to the end of March, so that’s been keeping me going right when things started to get tight. I’ve had some injuries lately, so that’s been limiting me a lot, and couldn’t get them addressed cuz Covid, but no worries. Gained a few pounds unfortunately. Could be worse. Hope you good. I see you took a break for a while from the comments. They have been pretty political for the last few years. Instead of an anonymous troll calling you a “…aggot”, and all kinds of other racist or demeaning insults that are not politically correct, now they call you a conservative Trumper, or a Libtard as an insult on the surf forums. I been reading them for a while, but only been commenting for 3-4 years. They were pretty funny in the day, more of a contest of the best homophobic or racial insult you could come up with. But nothing serious. Wiggs was out of hand. Hahaha. Then Stab banned all the politically incorrect commenters because it was pretty out of hand, and then a lot more came over to Beachgrit in maybe 2017? Or 2018?
Oh well times change. Try to find some really old threads on Stab to see what it was like, if they still have them in the recesses of the internet. Take care, sounds like you are doing decent with the well drilling, if not the HVAC stuff anymore. Maybe I’ll get back to San Diego this year and surf the cliffs again? Not much of a vacation nest egg for me now though. Go have a drink for me at the Pac Shores next time you go to OB. They still have my friends Grandpas boat, Captain Medina, picture in a frame on the wall. He was a OG Portuguese tuna fisherman who also was part owner of the bar a long time ago. I went to school and grew up with his grandson in Point Loma. I had 2 beers there in September, last time I went back to SD to visit the folks. Adios, and party on!!

SSD
SSD
6 years ago

Crazy days! Glad you are good. I only had a minute to check disqus so Ill get back to ya

Brutus
Brutus
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Sounds like you are getting ready for USA Civil war 2….Antifa …hahahaha….so that’s who to blame!

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Brutus

The finger pointing is profound from those with their fingers up their asses.

But the division is real. Very.

Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt
Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

That’s a gnarly story. I sometimes think about the immense hassle of proving yourself innocent after being forced to deal justice to a home intruder because they got nuts. Sounds like a massive legal nightmare. Good to see he didn’t try to take you out and force you to bring him down. Because then you are on trial to prove you or your wife’s life was threatened. Good to see you guys were safe and moving past that experience.

Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt
Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt
6 years ago
Reply to  SSD

Oy Scotty, good to see ya still kicking.
You may be gone (or taking a commenting break),

But not forgotten.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Jamie, your hood’s value will rise once they open the new stadium and the forum. Nice skate parks and most importantly to any US resident, very close to the International Airport.

Never a big fan of uncle Tom Bradley, but I LOVE his terminal.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Good skate park in Inglewood too I’m told.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

It is an editorial decision, not Jamie’s.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Was that the book Trump was waving in front of the crowd in front of the church yesterday when he demonized Anti fascism?

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

The same book witnesses will take an oath upon and swear to tell the truth and nothing but the truth during the trial of Yvette Felarca, an Antifa activist AND Berkeley Unified School District middle school teacher.
“Yvette Felarca, a middle school teacher in the Berkeley Unified School District (BUSD), and two co-plaintiffs were ordered to pay Judicial Watch $22,000 in attorney’s fees and $4,000 in litigation costs. Felarca had sued the BUSD in federal court to keep the school district from fulfilling its legal obligation to provide Judicial Watch with records of their communications mentioning: Felarca, Antifa, and/or BAMN. Judicial Watch also asked for Felarca’s personnel file.

Felarca is a prominent figure in By Any Means Necessary (BAMN), a group founded by the Marxist Revolutionary Workers League that protests conservative speaking engagements. In 2016, Felarca and two of her allies were arrested and charged with several crimes, including felony assault, for inciting a riot in Sacramento. Earlier this year, Felarca was ordered to stand trial for assault.”
https://www.judicialwatch.o…

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

I was once asked to testify in court and as the oath deal is being warmed up, I looked at the judge and said… “How can I pledge to tell the truth upon a book of fairy tales”.

Like why this farce? Perjury is a deterrent, don’t need that book for anything.

Antifa is an ideology. The movement is not coordinated, no central command or governing rules because their is no hierarchy. It has become a response to white nationalism. When your president designates Anti Fascism as domestic terror, how does that paint him?

Fascist?

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

And I love how don’t tread on me’s don’t believe the media unless it affirms their confirmation bias.

“Antifa” is the problem…. we should all be fascists and the army could just take over!!!!

Otto
Otto
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Do you really think the Antifa we are bearing witness to today has any semblance to its historical roots notably written about by writers like Camus or Orwell? Camus often struggled with the potential that the rebel would become the oppressor. When an ideology no longer thinks and acts but only reacts, then how can that actions taken by Antifa be considered anything than oppressive behavior without intent, resulting in destruction that doesn’t affect white nationalists as much as what, innocent blacks caught in the middle?
During that recent riot in Berkeley involving skinheads and Antifa, a black man steppes in to protect a skinhead getting beaten. Asked later why he did come to that skinheads’ defense, the black man said he sees “humanity” in the skinhead.
What do the Antifa rioters see in the black locals who’s cities they have set out looting and destructing. Humanity? Or just an excuse to act?

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
Derek Hynd's Missing Fins
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Next time tell the judge you worship the flying spaghetti monster and need a colander upon which to rest your hand.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago

Will try that at jury duty….

Or bring a rock and swear to it.

Occ Topus
Occ Topus
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

Accusing anyone of being against anti-fascism because they are against Antifa is like saying that someone hates hippies because they didn’t like Charles Manson. Moral equivalency fail.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Occ Topus

Antifa represents Anti fascists.

Hippy’s were all flavors bro. Good, bad and the ugly. 70’s became very dark. Kids today romance the fashion or style or music and such, but the war hung like a dark cloud and distrust replaced disgust. Summer of love was replaced by heavier drugs and in surfing, rampant localism (I thrived).

Sean Callahan
Sean Callahan
6 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Judicial Watch are the bitches still crying over “her emails!” Fucking talk about frivolous lawsuits and court actions? And Yvette Felarca was in court over something that she should have a medal for. Punching Nazis. The last ones I saw with literally a swastika and sieg heil caught a brick to the face. Punching Nazis isn’t harsh enough. Take ’em down hard. They sure landed a sell-out of a judge to bow down or cozy up to conservative shitheads like that. What human shit.

Wilbur
Wilbur
6 years ago

Besides the incarceration rates for certain ethnic groups being outta whack….did you know we have by far the worlds highest incarceration rate? Not just overall numbers but per capita. France only has about 100 people per 100,000 in jail and the UK has about 150 people per 100,000. We have 655 people per 100,000 locked up.

Hippy
Hippy
6 years ago
Reply to  Wilbur

Privatization of prisons means contractual occupancy standards.

Now that is a slippery slope. Black kids selling dime bags do time, Trump associates and Aunt Becky get quick shade.

Wilbur
Wilbur
6 years ago
Reply to  Hippy

I agree on all your points.


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