Neither John John Florence nor Carissa Moore are “eager to discuss” their views on appropriation.
The morning sun is gently caressing old Amalfi town.
Italians going about their day Italian-like, drinking espresso, driving motor scooters, gesticulating.
The dolce vita made for them, by them, and observing from the water, so wonderfully and wholly theirs.
Not like surfing which has been laid bare in a devastating Associated Press exposé.
Culturally appropriated by whites, twisted in into ugly financial instrument benefiting only them and soon to be on a sneering, ugly, white display in its grand Olympic debut.
Very uncool.
Author Sally Ho dives into Hawaii’s history, how white missionaries came and stole the land and outlawed surfing but then also stole surfing and smuggled it back to dirty California. She discusses how the surf industry, based there, juices the interlopers and how frustrating that is for native Hawaiians, Hawaiian historian and activist Isaiah Helekunihi Walker telling her, “You had Native Hawaiians in the background being a part of the development of it and just not being really recognized. There’s an element of them taking over. That’s when there’s no more aloha.”
What is most interesting in the piece, though, is her chatting, or attempting to chat, with those directly involved in surfing’s Olympic debut.
She writes that neither John John Florence nor Carissa Moore are “eager to discuss” their views on appropriation. Florence goes entirely silent. Moore says she wears the Hawaiian flag on her heart.
Tatiana Weston-Webb goes full denial. “I don’t think that (Hawaiians) are being overshadowed. It just depends on how you look at the situation.”
International Surfing Association chief Fernando Aguerre declares, “Everything we do has a connection to Hawaii. I think it’s impossible to detach Hawaiianness from surfing. The ocean doesn’t really care about hate, war or governments. Surfing is that way, too,” before telling the author he named his son after Duke Kahanamoku.
She ends the piece thusly:
Didi Robello, a descendant of Kahanamoku, said none of his family members have been contacted to participate in any Olympic celebrations. He said his grand-uncle’s name and legacy are exploited, which has become a great source of pain for the family because the trademark rights to the Kahanamoku name are owned by outsiders. “We’re getting ripped off,” Robello said. “It’s embarrassing.”
The dolce imbarazzante.
Wow humans floating on a piece of wood, how cutting edge, and I’m sure Hawaiians invented that world changing technology! Get the fuck out of here, sounds like someone is jealous that it is just one more thing that one race of people made vast improvements on, got more notoriety for, and in turn made it alot better. Than the “original” founders were capable of doing for whatever reason.
To any and all people that have to invoke race in any and all conversations, grow the fuck up, or shut the fuck up, I’m sick of your racist cry baby “oh poor me, it’s the whites fault” bullshit, the country is sick of it, and I would bet the rest of the world is sick of it, just shut the fuck up, and here is one for you racist assholes, right now your making your race suck, your an embarrassment to your race, everything about you is ugly, so just realize your making this world a shittier place to live, whites play a part to, in that we playdate and allow you racism to persist with our white guilt, I’m just saying enough is enough.
Her mum is Brazilian – not sure what your point is, they’re all mongrels down there.
That sucks I guess. A lot of people were really shitty a few hundred years ago. What exactly do you want JJF or anyone else to do about it now? There’s no appropriation there, just a guy who grew up playing a sport.
If you want to nitpick you could make the claim Basketball has been appropriated and it belongs to unathletic white Americans. But that would be incredibly lame
see you only think in terms of military might , which the USA has a superior armed forces….but there are spread from Europe /M E/ USA and Asia.
The economic war that China is unleashing on the West , seems to be working OK….so many countries indebted them and we all use so much product that’s made in China……
But your commnet ,” anyone who picks a fight with Unkle Sam will get an ass whuppin…well tell that to the N Koreans/Vietnamese/Afghanis / Kurds etc….
Well there are more than a few people who believe that Covid was China waging economic war.
Or that Covid was started by Hong Kongians or Taiwanese trying to make China look bad in the eyes of the world.
If China had started World War III they probably couldn’t have killed more people or caused more economic damage.
America hasn’t fought a war properly since World War II – lost the will to do what needs to be done, which is fire-bomb Dresden and Berlin, nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Kill kill kill kill kill and kill some more until the other side loses the will to fight.
We could have defeated North Korea and Vietnam and Afghan and the Taliban and all of them, but mass slaughter just ain’t cool in the modern world, so we don’t do it, so nothing is proven in war.
World War II was the last one worth fighting. That was a real war with an uncertain outcome. War should have ended with nuclear weapons, but humans are a war-loving species and we keep coming up with excuses to fight them.
Now we have nukes so it’s all just a big bloody expensive stalemate.
But it would be interesting to see China and America go at each other conventionally.
I wonder if that war would penetrate into American borders?
They only have one or two aircraft carriers, so probably not.
It would also be interesting to see the reception an invading force would get in South Central or Texas or Brooklyn.
War is a waste of time.
Slightly off-topic, but Olympic-centric of sorts: I just dug some BG archives and found a DR original from 2015 that captured “surfing’s best websites.” The last one featured (and good on ‘ya, DR for calling it the best in class – that’s a call that has more than proven worthy) was Dane’s old marinelayerproductions. Anyway, DR included the 11 min short called Sampler, purportedly Dane’s b-sides from the latest Kai Neville full-length, Cluster. I watched Sampler again right now, for the first time since…its 2015 debut.
2015 Dane is light years ahead of anyone on tour today and anyone about to find themselves medaling in Tokyo. That’s an indictment of surfing. AND YEAH, I’M NOT FORGETTING ‘BOUT ITALO OR GABE OR PIP OR JJF. 2015 b-side Dane mops the floor with them all. Now get out there boys and keep regressing!!!!
Seems like pre-Covid era the ISA watered down the international surf competition community with 2 ISA’s a year making for a more anti-climatic atmosphere with a constant flow of basically the same Countries winning. Won’t the Olympics with mostly the same token Countries competing again seem like just another glorified version of an ISA World contest put on by Fernando?
The draw is small {thank fuck} and pretty stacked.
At least the empathetic surfers of the woke variety only have to say sorry and apologise and genuflect and bow and take the knee to a single entity in the Hawaiians. How about we spare a thought for the decathletes at the upcoming Olympics. How the fuck are they gonna find time to do all that apologising and virtue signalling?
‘A Chosen People: A Promised Land’ by Hokulani Aikau is a revealing book on the subject. She is also Eddie’s niece. Great read.
Where is the link to the original piece by Sally Ho? Is she ethnic Chinese?
I wonder, if someone is working on neoprene Klan hoods as we speak.
where’s Otto?
Its just the simple truth.
Stronger, smarter cultures overwhelm weaker, less sophisticated cultures and eat them or steal their sports or culturally appropriate whatever.
Polynesians did it to anyone in their path, and then the white men did it to the Hawaiians.
That’s what cultures do to each other, which is why America spends more on the military than other next four or five countries put together, and why we have so many nuclear weapons and aircraft carriers and F22s and Warthogs and F35s and whatnot.
Because humans are indeed a sex-crazed, blood-thirsty, war-like, tribal, hierarchical, power-craving, murderous, selfish higher-primate species that can’t shake their primate brain and impulses.
OMG! Look who is checking out at Whole Foods!!!
She’s so tall! And her fella is taller!
They’re snogging!!!
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That’s a bummer they didn’t use your checkout.
“…is he still staring at us?”
What you think I have an actual job?
Work is for people with nothing better to do.
S____ G_____ is tall and slender.
She moves graceful-like.
Good surfer. Fast.
Who’s the guy?
Not you. He’s tall and he can surf.
Don’t be like that.
FFS really ,” Because humans are indeed a sex-crazed, blood-thirsty, war-like, tribal, hierarchical, power-craving, murderous, selfish higher-primate species that can’t shake their primate brain and impulses.”
Then there are those who have found a higher calling and answer to a higher entity , who reject your redneck appraisal of humans .
I think that your appraisal of humans is what you see in the USA!
Not all humans are that way, but look at the arc of history and you will see that humans are indeed a sex-crazed, blood-thirsty, war-like, tribal, hierarchical, power-craving, murderous, selfish higher-primate species.4
And it ain’t just Americans. That stuff has been going on for millennia before America even existed.
The aboriginals of Australia got a much harsher treatment than the Hawaiians.
And the aboriginals of Australia were probably killing and eating each other at some point.
Indeed, I think it’s true that the aboriginals of Australia and the Hawaiians sprung from a similar well.
But the aboriginals didn’t know how to sail or didn’t like the ocean, so they were left behind.
I’m watching John Ford movies one after the other right now and its all about slaughtering Indians.
I polished a screenplay for a Malibu guy set in Santa Barbara in 1850.
There is a line where a local politician made a public speech about killing all the indians.
I thought: “Naw, no American would have talked like that, even then, in 1850.”
But no less than the first Governor of California Peter Burnett (1849 – 1851) called for the slaughter of Indians in his state of the state addres on January 6, 1851: “𝘛𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘢 𝘸𝘢𝘳 𝘰𝘧 𝘦𝘹𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘣𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘨𝘦𝘥 𝘣𝘦𝘵𝘸𝘦𝘦𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘦𝘴 𝘶𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘐𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘢𝘯 𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘦𝘹𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘵 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘣𝘦 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥. 𝘞𝘩𝘪𝘭𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘭𝘵 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘱𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘧𝘶𝘭 𝘳𝘦𝘨𝘳𝘦𝘵, 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘷𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘺 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘺𝘰𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘰𝘸𝘦𝘳 𝘰𝘳 𝘸𝘪𝘴𝘥𝘰𝘮 𝘰𝘧 𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘵.
𝘚𝘪𝘵𝘶𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘴 𝘊𝘢𝘭𝘪𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘯𝘪𝘢 𝘪𝘴, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘶𝘴𝘵 𝘦𝘹𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵 𝘢 𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘶𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘩𝘢𝘳𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘨𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘳 𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘧𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘐𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘢𝘯𝘴 𝘶𝘱𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘶𝘳 𝘣𝘰𝘳𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘭𝘰𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘵𝘦𝘴 𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘚𝘵𝘢𝘵𝘦𝘴. 𝘈𝘭𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩 𝘧𝘦𝘸 𝘪𝘯 𝘯𝘶𝘮𝘣𝘦𝘳𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘶𝘯𝘴𝘬𝘪𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘧𝘪𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘮𝘴, 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘴𝘦𝘦𝘮 𝘵𝘰 𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘵𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘨𝘦𝘴 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘪𝘳 𝘱𝘰𝘴𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯; 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘺 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘯𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘦𝘥𝘢𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺 𝘸𝘢𝘳𝘧𝘢𝘳𝘦, 𝘮𝘰𝘴𝘵 𝘥𝘪𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘶𝘴, 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘦𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘮.”
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Uncle Sam is sending a mob of F22 Raptors to China.
Those planes are badass. When I lived on that boat in the Ala Wai/Kewalo Basin, the Raptors were constantly coming and going out of Hickam.
They’d do a takeoff called “Hanging 10” where they’d go straight up vertically to 10,000 feet then roll out of it and go hotdogging off somewhere.
That plane is lovely. Something in the way it moves.
And then the B1 Bombers would take off like Darth Vader planes, a cone of flames coming out the back, loud and resonant and setting off car alarms in Punchbowl.
At risk of sounding like a redneck, Capitol-raiding patriot: You really don’t want to fuck with Uncle Sam.
Not even China.
They’ve got the manpower but I doubt they have the toys.
We might even have to defend Australia again.
As the Polynesians spread from West Java through New Guinea and into the Pacific north and south and east and they came across another culture, what did the Polynesians do to that culture:
Killed them and ate them.
Is that cultural appropriation?
What the haole have done to the Hawaiians, the Polynesians did to other cultures, including other Polynesians.
See: Chatham Island and the Moriori.
The Hawaiians were killing and eating each other when Captain Cook rocked up.
They killed and ate Captain Cook and there has been a lot of killing and eating ever since.
Appropriation is what cultures do to each other because humans are a sex-crazed, blood-thirsty, war-like, tribal, selfish higher-primate species that can’t shake their primate brain and impulses.
Hawaii was overwhelmed by the haole just as earth would be overwhelmed if an alien species that figured out travel at the speed of light came to earth and started calling the shots.
The surf industry has done a lot for Hawaiians. It has given many many Hawaiian kids a shot at accomplishing something and seeing the world, but it’s sad how often it goes bad for Hawaiian surfers.
Is that because of the surf industry?
The surfing world never fails to point to its Hawaiian roots.
It would be nice if they held the surfing part of the Olympics in Hawaii for the Los Angeles Olympics.
Much as I like Fernando and know all he has gone through to get it there, I really do think surfing in the the Tokyo Olympics are going to be a bust.
What are the chances the surf is going to be any better than T Street?
There was a race of people called the Mu who lived in the Hawaiian Islands pre-Tahitian conquest, who were non-violent and were taken over and slaughtered by the much larger, colonizing Polynesians.
History has a tendency to repeat unfortunately.
Uh… what?
You sure about that?
Where did the Mu come from?
I have my doubts on that one.
The Mu are what inspired the whole “menehune” deal?
Is that historic, proven?
But that supported what I’m saying: If the Hawaiians dominated and slaughtered the Mu, they cant’ really complain when the ahole came in and dominated and slaughtered them.
Although the haole genocide of the Hawaiians wasn’t really deliberate, but it happened.
The Mu supposedly came from the Marquesas Island to Hawaii, centuries before the Tahiti/Samoa voyages of emigration.
Ive heard that. They sailed there from the Marquesas? And how did they get to the Marquesas? Sorry, but I ain’t buying it. Time to do a deep dive.
Oh okay, this all makes perfect sense:
The incredibly complex Mū culture dates well beyond the neolithic era (20,000 years ago) in the archipelago of the Hawaiian Islands. During the apex of this culture the majority of the Mū people lived in what is now the uninhabited Papahānaumokuākea (Northwestern Hawaiian islands).
It is believed these people originated from Makali’i (the Pleiades), and Newe (Sirius) and immigrated to Ki, Mā Lepo/Honua (Earth), as far back as twenty million years ago and continued up until 200,000 years ago. Designating a linear time space, or Wā, is very peculiar because the originals, or “Mea,” did not necessarily cooperate with time (despite cooperating with ‘Umetaumaha/Gravity) so it is difficult to put an actual “date.” There has been much debate over the immigration and the reasons, but in chant we are told Earth and the 3-D (third dimension) became an experiment of Ka mea nāna i hana (Mā, Mū dialiect) (Source, God, Creator) to engineer “self-reflective Love” known to the Mū people as “Aloha Mā.” Before this Source and the expansion of Kō (awe) was made up of pure Aloha, or Love. Because Aloha was not submissive to time or space, it could not be referenced and perceived as it remained all-encompassing and therefore was not “received.” In the attempt to receive love Ka mea nāna i hana separated itself from itself so that it could love itself. Thus, Free-Will was born and Mā Lepo/Honua/Earth Reality became the experiment.
The geographic areas which encompass the Mū landmass is controversial. There has been much evidence of Mū relics found in Taiwan, the Aleutian Islands, Haida Gwaii, Rapa Nui, and areas of South America. These people did not worship idols or talismans, but rather “Kiakahi Rā Ana,” or Purpose. Idols and the likes came much later, during the implementation of hierarchy. Instead, conduct was prescribed as a “bowl of light” where citizens carried a hypothetical bowl of light. Any disharmony accumulated would be added to this bowl and thus obstruct their source light, and also add weight to their otherwise high vibrational 5-D make-up. Therefore, life was rather simple and pleasant.
Way easier to just believe God made Adam and Eve. The rest is mere details.
They think they came from Marqueases islands perhaps, there are oral traditions talking about it, one book to read if you can find it is ‘Tales of a night rainbow.’
The Mu are indeed who inspired the Menehune, although it was originally ‘Manahune’ meaning small power or small mana, rather than small people.
There are strange ruins on Kauai – such as the menhune ditch in Waimea and the ruins of the village in Honopu Valley – that feature cut and dressed stone work, a skill the Polynesian Hawaiians didn’t possess or practice.
It’s one of those things that is pretty shrouded in mystery and there is very little information about it, it’s certainly been a subject of much debate in the past.
I have plenty friends here that claim to the bloodline and hold the stories passed down to them from their Kupuna.
Sorry I ain’t buying it.
I’ve heard about the Mu and read about the Mu but I really don’t think there was a people in the Hawaiian Islands before the Polynesians rocked up.
How would they have gotten there? Land bridge? Boats? Rainbow bridge?
One ditch isn’t enough. Need bones. Need cave paintings. Etc.
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Boats obviously.
There are a bunch of pre-Hawaiian stone carvings like this one the Bishop museum has too taken from Necker and Niihoa islands.
It’s more than just one ditch.
Ultimately it doesn’t matter whether you buy it or not, your personal beliefs don’t mean anything in the scheme of things – there certainly won’t be any oral traditions recounting you and your Beachgrit diatribe centuries after you leave this mortal coil.
Books and writing are immortality. Like statues.
The Mu are up there with flat earth and Chemtrails and Deep State.
Where are these boats the Mu sailed from the Marquesas to Hawaii?
Where did the Mu come from?
Are they Asian?
How did they get to the Marquesas?
Where did they come from before the Marquesas?
If the Mu were master sailors/navigators like the Polynesians, they would have left boats behind.
Nope.
So the stone walls and statues aren’t immortal?
Where are the boats? Does wood generally survive hundreds of years or more?
Your arguments are pretty weak.
Are you refuting the existence of people in the Marquesas?
Who built Nan Madol?
No trace of you will exist in 50 years, you will be vanquished the day no one remembers your name.
So the stone walls and statues aren’t immortal?
Sure they are, but I ain’t buying they were built by a pre-Tahitian race who lived in the Pacific version of Atlantis.
Thats Chemtrails, Flat Earth, Deep State thinking.
Does wood generally survive hundreds of years or more?
Of course. Go read about the Viking digs.
Dig The Dig: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZQz0rkNajo
1200 years and still there.
Your arguments are pretty weak.
Nyet.
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Are you refuting the existence of people in the Marquesas?
Those people in the Marquesas are Polynesian, part of the Polynesian diaspora.
Round round get around, the Polynesians got around.
Who built Nan Madol?
The Ziffs.
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No one knows, what they were doing.
No trace of you will exist in 50 years, you will be vanquished the day no one remembers your name.
Books are forever. Writing is forever.
That’s why cunts write them.
I got quoted in that book The Drop, which is very good by the way.
Something I wrote 30 years ago.
And a few months ago someone sent me $1000 for something I wrote in 1992.
You like apples?
Another 50 years won’t make no nevermind
The problem with middlers like yourself is the delusion that you think you are smarter than everyone else and have absolutely no sense of humility – I knew better than to engage with your all-consuming ego but here I am unfortunately.
There’s a big difference between the climes or the Vikings and the Mu.
Wood don’t last long in the tropics my friend.
Books and writing aren’t forever unless they are scribed in stone, and even then, give nature a few thousand years and she will erase even that.
But you know best oh mighty Oracle, some say you are the next Plato, some say Hippocrates, the rest of us, just see hypocrisy..
Sense of humidity?
I live in Malibu and it doesn’t get all that humid, really. It’s the sea breezes and whatnot.
And I have no friends, nor do I need them.
But thank you for considering me a friend.
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Books and writing are forever.
I’m writing a novella written around Macbeth right now, and that shit weren’t inscribed in stone, were it?
Writing is immortality.
Sorry.
And how do you know nature is a she?
Some other pronoun is needed, perhaps.
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This is part of the Menehune ditch, a several mile long aqueduct supposedly built by the Menehune before the Tahitian conquests led by Pa’ao
So do you think that the Chinese are going to appropriate the USA?
If they do it’s just part of human behaviour….survival of the fittest?
Moriori bit is false so not sure where that leaves the rest of your argument.
You’re suggesting the mainland Maori from New Zealand did not sail to Chatham Island and slaughter the Moriori? History says they did.
Yes, there was some terrible atrocities, but to attribute that to all Maori, and present it as a act of one culture wiping out another, and therefore justifying colonial history, is irresponsible.
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You misinterpret.
Not all Maori killed and ate weaker, smaller populations of Maori, but Chatham Island is an example of how the Polynesians rolled when they were in the mood.
Their Polynesian cousins most likely exhibited similar behaviors as they spread through the Pacific like Pac Man, and so can Hawaiians whinge because someone killed and ate and repackaged their culture?
Did the Hawaiians kill and eat the Mu, if the Mu ever actually existed?
Cultural subjugation and appropriation and even digestion is what humans do.
So don’t hang it all on John John and Carissa – they just want to shred.
And it’s “there were” not “where was” unless you are culturally appropriating the poor spelling and grammar of the Mongol races.
Moriori Genocide was 1835 and so that was yesterday in historical terms. Recent enough to be recorded and demythed.
It happened. No question: https://en.wikipedia.org/wi…
A sample. No bueno:
Invasion
In 1835, around 900 Māori people from Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama were welcomed to the islands.[2][7] This group arrived in two waves. The first arrived on 19 November 1835 via the hijacked European ship Lord Rodney[8] and carried 500 people along with guns, clubs and axes. This first group killed and hung up a 12-year-old Moriori girl. The second group arrived on 5 December 1835.[9] With the arrival of the second group “parties of warriors armed with muskets, clubs and tomahawks, led by their chiefs, walked through Moriori tribal territories” and “curtly informed the inhabitants that their land had been taken and the Moriori living there were now vassals.”[10]
Due to the new arrivals’ hostility, a hui (council) of 1,000 Moriori was convened at settlement called Te Awapatiki to debate possible responses. Younger members argued that the Moriori could fight back as they outnumbered Māori two-to-one. Elders, however, argued Nunuku’s Law should not be broken.[6][1] Despite knowing Māori were not pacifist, Moriori ultimately decided to stay pacifist against the invaders, describing Nunuku’s Law as “a moral imperative”.[10] Although the council decided in favour of peace, the invading Māori inferred that the decision was a prelude to war.[11] Violence erupted and around 300 Moriori were killed, with hundreds more enslaved.[7] The invaders killed around 10% of the population in a ritual that included staking out women and children on the beach and leaving them to die in great pain over several days.[8]
During the period of enslavement the Māori invaders forbade the speaking of the Moriori language. They forced Moriori to desecrate sacred sites by urinating and defecating on them.[8] Moriori were forbidden to marry Moriori or Māori or to have children. This was different from the customary form of slavery practiced on mainland New Zealand.[12]
A total of 1,561 Moriori died between the invasion in 1835 and the release of Moriori from slavery in 1863, and in 1862 only 101 Moriori remained. Causes of death include murder but also introduced European diseases.[6]
This is an amazing impression of Scott Bass going off the reservation.
Well one has to condense and simplify for the beachgrit crowd because they aren’t the sharpest planers in the shaping shed.
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but do they use a CNCmachine ?
Like comparing a shit sandwich with a day old shit sandwich. We agree in principle.
The British don’t maintain ownership of vast amounts of Hawaiian land like the Mormon Church does, while natives wait on registries for years to get a small run down home through Hawaiian Homelands. A total swindle.
Brit’s Huge Colonial Financial Empires Still Generating Stolen Wealth Globally
And don’t pay one cent of tax on the revenue from their Polynesian Cultural Centre operation, as it is considered church property for tax purposes
The problem is not how/whether the ‘sport of surfing’/ISA/Olympic federation recognizes the Hawaiian contribution to the sport, the problem is that businessmen and colonialists from the United States invaded Hawaii and stole/destroyed it for indigenous Hawaiians in the first place. Any sort of recognition about surfing ahead of the Olympics is insincere token bullshit anyway, if they want to be genuine about it then during the Olympics telecast they can play some good Youtube explainers on the history of Hawaii.
They’ll probably have some intern spend a half hour looking up the history of surfing and have the announcer talk about it before the heats and get it all wrong. Like when Katie Couric said during the Winter Olympics that the Dutch ice skate to work on the frozen canals in the winter.
Wasn’t the chic in blue crush the first female surfer,…..EVER!?
“Considering all angles on their merits, one can only conclude that people were surfing in China thousands of years before Polynesia, or at the very least that was what Zanella is suggesting.” – Chas Smith
Are they culturally appropriating the Chinese? or the Hawaiian’s? Or the Polynesian? Very confusing stuff.
Tatiana Weston Webb is culturally appropriating being Brazilian, of course she is in full denial.
Her ass looks 25% Brazzo at best.
She was born there
And her parents only wen there so she could potentially get citizenship
That’s how her mum sold it……
Somehow, I doubt if the ten people who care about this non-story (eleven, if you count Chas) are going to accomplish much. Remember always: dogs bark, and the caravan keeps moving.
Interviewing a BYU professor (Hawaiian historian/activist?) about cultural appropriation? How convenient. Those Mormon assholes are a huge part of Hawaii’s cultural genocide.