The results of study will shock!

In sensational peer-reviewed study, Californian professors reveal surf co’s are building wetsuits wrong, ignoring “compelling research” and claim the most efficient wetsuit in the world was made by Florence Marine X!

But sold out! Can't buy!

Here’s a wild little study that has flown under the radar. 

Two professors from the California State University in San Marcos, a dozen miles east of Encinitas, say they’ve conducted exhaustive research on wetsuits and the results ain’t pretty. 

“What the surf industry is marketing is not driven by science,” says Sean Newcomer, one half of the university’s Surf Research Laboratory, the other is Jeff Nessler, in a piece on Outsideonline.

The pair are helped by 40 undergrads, and the indoor “surf laboratories” feature motion cameras, a swim bench ergometer, a treadmill on hydraulics, even a surfboard simulator mounted on pistons. 

And, what Nessler and Newcomer discovered is that wetsuits are being made with the distribution of rubber thickness all wrong, ass backwards y’might say. 

Using thermal sensors to collect data on skin temps, “the data showed that the average surfer didn’t need the extra millimeters around their core (unless perhaps they were riding waves near the Arctic Circle). Instead, they needed the thickest neoprene over the lower half of their body—the calves, thighs, stomach, and lower back. Those were the regions submerged in water for the most amount of time and consequently the areas that lost the most heat. Those regions also received the least exposure to the sun and weren’t utilized as much as the upper body’s paddling muscles.” 

Interestingly, “When researchers have tracked surfers’ activity, they’ve found that surfers spend the majority of time paddling during a session, followed by sitting idle. They only actually surf between 2 percent and 5 percent of the time.” 

Anyway, Hurley, back before Nike sold it and it became a beard oil, electric bike and inflatable jetski outlet, built a suit based on the principles of thick in the leg, lighter rubber on the guts – 4mm legs, 3mm lower guts and back, 2mm in the chest, upper back and arms. 

A miracle, yes? 

Nope. Marketing couldn’t work out how to sell ‘em. 

Traditionally, wetsuits are named by their thickness. A 4/3-millimeter suit, for instance, is understood to mean that the thickest neoprene (4 millimeters) is wrapped around the core, while the thinnest neoprene (3 millimeters) covers the extremities. Since the new Hurley suit had the thickest neoprene in the legs, thinned as it reached the torso, then thinned some more in the chest and arms, it was confusing to use those traditional measurements. They ended up calling it the Advantage Max 3/2 Plus. 

And, then, Hurley went beard oil, and John John fled to start his own brand along with Bob Hurley and former Hurley VP Bruce Moore. 

Moore hadn’t forgotten about Nessler and Newcomer’s research, and Florence Marine X applied the professors’ findings when designing the first Florence Marine X wetsuit, which went on sale last year. The first batch quickly sold out despite its $750 price tag. It’s the first suit to incorporate Nessler and Newcomer’s research on regional temperatures in the body since the Hurley Advantage Max 3/2 Plus, using 3 millimeters of neoprene on the legs and lower torso, while covering the arms, upper chest, and upper back with 2 millimeters of rubber.

But sold out! 

And the Advantage max 3/2 Plus for Hurley, which is still out there, ain’t made by the same high-end co’s as it was when Nike so maybe prudent to avoid.

Can’t win for losing etc. 

Read whole thing here. 

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Rich Marx
Rich Marx
4 years ago

This study is worthless unless they let everyone pee in the test wetsuits

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
4 years ago

Haha

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
4 years ago

I started on a matt too.
Now look at us!!

The Bitchy Crab
The Bitchy Crab
4 years ago

Awesome, I have a similar photo of me taken by my dad

The Bitchy Crab
The Bitchy Crab
4 years ago

Is that you?
I had the same ride

The Bitchy Crab
The Bitchy Crab
4 years ago

Hanging off of your board is a great way to feed the sharks.
I want to surf next to you

Rich Marx
Rich Marx
4 years ago

This is an article written by a journalist about a science paper. Evaporative cooling is an obvious factor. They probably account for it but the journalist didn’t report it or his editor cut it out.

Tracey lungs
Tracey lungs
4 years ago

Wind anspiss.

Anthony Arturo Leone
Anthony Arturo Leone
4 years ago

Yeah a few years ago Hubboards, a boogie brand I represent, released a 4/3/2 with 4 in the legs, 3 in the core, and 2 in the arms. I still have it and its awesome.

Kooklord
Kooklord
4 years ago

Same principle for us cold ass Canadian kooks. Sea temp is usually higher from Nov-Feb when the swell is best. This thin torso thinner top suits sounds cold as hell.

notsurfingtoday
notsurfingtoday
4 years ago

https://uploads.disquscdn.c… Hollywood taking cues from rip curl (or maybe the other way round)

Gino
Gino
4 years ago

More warm people in the water.
Woo Hoo!

JohnsKnees
JohnsKnees
4 years ago

Nobody will need wetsuits in the near future anyways.

Seas Nail
Seas Nail
4 years ago

Gorillas run, on average about 30-40 mill. Smallest dick to body ratio out of all the primates. Sorry to hear VONR.

Lemon Next to the Pie
Lemon Next to the Pie
4 years ago
Reply to  Seas Nail

It’s not the size of the penis on the gorilla, it’s how much commotion it causes.

Sean Connery
Sean Connery
4 years ago

I got on the Feral train about two years ago. It’s the surfing version of the comfort one might expect in the womb. Never looking back.

janeausten
janeausten
4 years ago
Reply to  Sean Connery

What are their sizings like in your experience? Similar to Quik or Lip Rurl for example?

Sean Connery
Sean Connery
4 years ago
Reply to  janeausten

I wore Vissla’s before. Similar to that. Never had much luck with Rip Curl so have stayed away. Never had a quik suit. The Yamamoto rubber has a lot of stretch in it so there is some play I believe.

Rich Marx
Rich Marx
4 years ago
Reply to  janeausten

I switched to feral from xcels. The same sizes fit me, but feral seems sized slightly smaller.

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
4 years ago
Reply to  Sean Connery

Aw shit, not what my bank account wanted to hear. How do they last?

Sean Connery
Sean Connery
4 years ago

Really good quality. They last. Solid zipper. I hear ya on price.

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
4 years ago
Reply to  Sean Connery

Appreciate the info.

bruddah
bruddah
4 years ago

“What the surf industry is marketing is not driven by science,” YA DONT SAY

Huckleberry
Huckleberry
4 years ago

Nerds.

kookies_n_cream
kookies_n_cream
4 years ago
Reply to  Huckleberry

Mahalo you fucking surfers, goddamn nerds

janeausten
janeausten
4 years ago

https://uploads.disquscdn.c…
“Surf Research Laboratory” – 2 dongas, an above ground pool and some shade cloth…

Hippy
Hippy
4 years ago
Reply to  janeausten

looks like a sweet set up.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
4 years ago
Reply to  janeausten

Looks like a meth lab to me.

janeausten
janeausten
4 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

…what, the surf industry funded by illicit drug supplies!!!

Low wide stinkbug stance
Low wide stinkbug stance
4 years ago
Reply to  janeausten

Donga! This man has worked at a mine site or construction camp somewhere.

janeausten
janeausten
4 years ago

not really, I wish I was so well paid…but I live mine site adjacent, ie Western Australia.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
4 years ago

Covid vaxx and now wetsuits.
When will we ever trust science again.

Gino
Gino
4 years ago

When you get your vax for the Monkey Virus.

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
4 years ago
Reply to  Gino

Dicktator Dan will be all over it like a rash.

ricmatic
ricmatic
4 years ago

driving to work today?

Chief Hot stuff
Chief Hot stuff
4 years ago
Reply to  ricmatic

Those guys are dead

Black Rubber
Black Rubber
4 years ago

This article feels strangely useful.


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