Murder or a public service gone wrong?
A very tragic story, continuing to unspool, is that of former Marine Daniel Penny and his run-in with homeless Michael Jackson impersonator Jordan Neely on a New York City subway, leaving the later deceased.
According to bystanders, Neely entered the train around 2:15 in the afternoon and began shouting that he was hungry, thirsty and had little for which to live.
As his actions grew more erratic, Penny and two others restrained him, Penny applying a choke hold that was caught on camera by an independent journalist. The 24-year-old was interviewed by police but not arrested.
Neely was pronounced dead at a local hospital by way of homicide.
Hours ago, though, Penny was officially charged with manslaughter, appearing at a Manhattan court.
His attorney told CNN, that he will be “fully absolved of any wrongdoing,” and released a statement reading, “He risked his own life and safety, for the good of his fellow passengers. The unfortunate result was the unintended and unforeseen death of Mr. Neely.”
The Neely family, on the other hand, wishes that Penny was charged with murder declaring, “We believe that the conviction should be for murder because that was intentional. At some point, when people are screaming, ‘Let him go, you’re going to kill him’… He could’ve chosen to let him go, but he didn’t. And what did he think would happen if he didn’t? He had to know he would die. He had to.”
Neely, whose rap sheet featured forty two arrests, as well as an outstanding warrant for assault, beat hell out of a sixty-five-year-old woman in a random attack at a New York deli in 2021 and a few months later left a sixty-seven-year-old woman in the East Village with “a broken nose, fractured orbital bone and bruising, swelling and substantial pain”, an assault that got him a year at Rikers.
This extremely unfortunate business is, in any case, surf related as Penny has been described by all media outlets as “an avid surfer.”
His blonde curls certainly lend credence to the characterization as well as the Vans he paired with his suit for his court appearance.
All raising the question, when a surfer is charged with a crime, are you more likely to give him or her the benefit of the doubt (we’re all part of the same tribe etc.) or presume guilt (surfers are the worst)?
More as the story develops.
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Being a surfer is no longer a mark of pride or a reflection of good judgement. Covid induced social media conspiracy madness proved for once and all that too many surfers are nothing more than selfish cunts (AKA ‘ conservative libertarians’).
Absolutely.
He’s well on his way to becoming a BG moderator or writer, and one day even giving Chas and DR a run for their money!
They are rapidly getting there.
Housing is just one example.
you got THAT right!
there’s a PBS documentary on Willy Randy Hearst (not Citizen Kane) who was running for governor of Cali (me thinks) and the rough-housing, intimidation, and riots surrounding the voters and votes…and the lop-sided media & press…is no different than what Trump (and half the cuntry) has and is now facing. that said, I have not voted in decades so don’t go all kook…practice empathy & restraint.
fuck bill & hill & joe.The voter registration lists is where they hunt for votes. The only thing that brings in “haven’t voted in years” to “voted” was vote by mail.
Durham and the spins is proof that media is out of control and govt doesn’t rep all the peeps. but we already knew that!
Must have been on the windpipe, needs to work on his technique.
There’s no right answer here ,,, terrible situation,,,,, but , yr non response to ever being on a subway train in the five boroughs speaks for itself . I’ve seen people get slashed across the face with box cutters in the matter of a second . Shit gets real in the blink of an eye … 😉,,,,, the hairs on ya neck stand up and instinct kicks in ,,,,, that being said , there’s a point to let go …..
If someone is acting crazy on the train , the last thing you do is engage them .
That’s the right answer. That’s what you teach your kids.
I completely agree and that woman on the train with me was doing exactly that.
BUT he was standing over her and there was no where for her to go.
Now I know that, no matter what he does, I can’t intervene.
You could intervene if he assaulted her. The law allows that.
I understand the desire to protect others but in a confined space like a subway it’s probably not going to end well and the best thing to do is stay out of it unless you absolutely have to .
Those kinda crazy people are on the subway everyday doing their routine and no one is killing them because New Yorkers know that ignoring them is the safest choice. This marine guy was foolish.
The guy was apparently throwing things at the passengers and telling them that he was prepared to die.
That’s clearly threatening enough behavior in my book to warrant action.
Having said that…I know better than to get involved and know that as a white person against a black person I’m in a no win situation.
Not a single black person cared about Jordan Neely prior to this incident. Even his parents didn’t care enough to keep him off the streets but as soon as he’s naturally selected by a white guy he’s a martyr.
I don’t consider Italians to be white.
You guys are pretty dark skinned on average
My great grandparents on my mother’s side were off the boat from Bari.
I’m not sure how much North African blood I have but I’m assuming it’s some, right?
But I have light hair and blue eyes.
So yeah, I’m a White Guy.
But not light skin.
You’re colored
The 1960’s called…they want their racial insults back! 😂
It’s not meant as an insult , just a description
I was making a joke.
Agreed ….. but at what point is too close …..??? That answer not so easy……
It is easy .
You can always walk away and
Too close is when they touch you in a threatening way.
Until then , the law is not on your side.
When I said COMMUNISTS I meant it…
https://nypost.com/2023/05/…
LITERALLY COMMUNISTS…
https://nypost.com/2023/05/…
Literally communists that are not politicians.
First sentence of the article
LOL!!!
What are they, baristas???
Ex aids to congrewomen
Who now lead a POLITICAL party.
Thus making them politicians.
Are you implying that AOC is a communist?
I think that she considers herself a Democratic Socialist.
She’s a Communist with enough marketing sense to know that “Democratic Socialist” sounds less threatening.
You should take a trip to the Democratic Socialist country of Denmark.
I think you will be surprised at how well it works.
Danes are very happy and content people .
AOC is not a communist.
Communists believe in authoritarianism . She is democratically elected congresswoman and therefore a democratic socialist
I’ve been to Denmark many times.
But last I checked Denmark was more capitalist than the US.
AOC is in Congress because 17,000 morons voted for her in a primary.
She absolutely believes that the government should force people to do what she wants. Among other authoritarian actions on her part…killing Amazon in her district.
You can make whatever points you want about evil Amazon but the fact is they bring good jobs and tax revenue.
The same tax breaks that NYC offers Hollywood are the same they offered Amazon and she is more than happy to have Hollywood in her district.
Which current NYC crime policies are NOT Communist?
Because if I were a Commie, and looking to destroy a city, I’d be doing exactly what the governor, mayor and DA’s are doing.
Meanwhile…have you lived in NY for 50 years? Ridden the subways? Been anywhere sketchy in the five boroughs?
If you were old enough to remember how dangerous NY was in the seventies and eighties than you wouldn’t be squealing about it today .
The place is extremely safe and well run now in comparison.
I lived through it, did you?
Yes, it was more dangerous back then but Rudy Giuliani came in and completely changed the culture and turned NYC into the best run, and safest big city in the world.
Now the policies and political ideologies that caused 2,000+ murders a year are back and will make NYC the same war zone prior to Rudy.
Why should that be allowed to happen?
I did
I haven’t been back in like 15 years.
But I’m going soon and I’ll see what differences I notice .
Giuliani certainly helped but I think that New York also just mellowed out culturally at the same time. Things were chill in the nineties , the world is strange now
You’ll notice that it reeks of marijuana, there are more homeless on the streets and there is more garbage and graffiti around.
Things have gotten slightly better since DeBlasio left but that’s not saying much.
Giuliani (and Ray Kelly) actively enforced the law and didn’t tolerate the bullshit.
That didn’t happen organically…it took political will and unpopular policies.
You can be critical of policies like Stop and Frisk but you can’t deny that thousands of young black men are alive today because of it.
The last statement is conjecture.
I love the smell of marijuana. Sounds great
It’s not conjecture at all.
Black men were safer under Stop and Frisk.
Doesn’t fit the narrative.
There is no tribe. That’s a bunch of made up BS.
don’t smoke ti leafs…
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx….
You’re a fucking idiot
He was stationed at Pendleton. I imagine he’s torn the back out of Church, a few times
the guys with military haircuts down at Church are great. If they aren’t pulling back and/or missing the wave, they’re burning someone deeper and going straight. But if you sit a little outside of them, you’re almost guaranteed to pick off a gem or two either way.
I’ve been there.
About 12 years ago.
PATH train at 34th Street.
Just myself and a woman in the train car while it’s still in the station.
EDP gets on and immediately goes to her and starts ranting and raving.
She’s sitting and doing her best to ignore him but he’s standing right above her.
I’m watching and know we’re getting close to leaving the station and I’m afraid he’s going to hit her.
I start walking towards him with the express purpose of punching him as hard as I possibly can when the conductor walks on and yells at him, by name, to get off the train.
I immediately ask her if she knows him and she says yes, he hangs around the station but is normally sedate.
I said I was on my way to punch and it’s a good thing she showed up when she did.
It’s instinctual behavior to protect innocent people and this guy absolutely did the right thing.
NYC is run by Communists.
Sounds like you delayed. You choked. You spent too much time thinking it over instead of acting. You were paddling so hard so the boys could see, then you pulled back at the last moment. Almost a legend. But not quite.
I’m thankful the conducter walked on when she did.
Number one…most of the EDPs have retard strength so chances are, unless you did what Penny did, you’re getting hurt.
Second…I could have easily been arrested for assault and had the full Riker’s experience.
Now unless it’s family or friends I’m not getting involved…I don’t care who is getting beat up or threatened.
That’s what has happened to NYC.
Sounds like you tripped on your skirt
Fortunately saved by the idiot conductor.
All made sense until you let your twisted ideological guard slip. So funny to watch the bandying about of ridiculous labels by people in a country where school kids get murdered because of a stupid gun fetish.
What does this have to with guns?
And yes, NYC is being run by literal Communists.
They call themselves “Democratic Socialists” but it’s Communism with a better brand name.
The DA in this case, Alvin Bragg, was the same guy who arrested a Bodega store owner for defending himself from a violent felon.
If not for the public outcry that poor man (who was stabbed, by the way) would still be facing prosecution.
The justice system in cities like NY is upside down right now all in an attempt to destroy law abiding people and make them compliant to Central Planning.
Yes sure commies around every corner in the land of mass consumerism. Oh and the gun fetish was used as an example of the same messed up US mindset.
Who do you think runs the big cities in America?
It ain’t Republicans.
I’m curious if you think there is a comparable country in the world that has a better “mindset” than the US?
China? Russia? India?
Australia?
Well there certainly aren’t any communists running any city’s in the US. Unless of course for people stuck in the cold war or redneck mindset. And the list of countries with a better mindset than one prepared to watch its kids get shot at school is too long to fit here.
Thanks for your deeply thoughtful answer.
‘Surfers’ who wear skate shoes like that clown are dicks anyway and can rot in jail, the less in the water the better, especially if he’s mates with Ben Gravy and gonna try for 1000 days in a row in New Jersey.
But I give even less of a shit about a nutbag Wacko Jacko impersonator who’s already done time for bashing elderly people, and would most likely do it again. Kill (admittedly that’s a bit much for all of them, but at least lock them up when appropriate) all the crazies…
Just the day prior he was trying to shove people on to the tracks.
He had ABSOLUTELY no business being on the streets.
None.
If NYC wants to keep criminals like Neely safe, the DA should lock them up.
He hasn’t been impersonating Michael Jackson for a decade. He smokes spice. Artificial weed. Artificial fucking weed?!?!?!!!!!!! Fucking idiot.
He was known to the local NYC homeless outreach as one of the top 50 known/ID’d homeless who REQUIRED services due to severity of mental problems.
Free Marine Daniel Penny. He did nothing wrong. Nothing.
This is the same DA who initially charged a Bodega worker with murder because some guy tried to kill him in his store and he won the fight.
Bragg is literally human garbage.
Another Soros funded POS.
Who introduced George Soros to American Politics?
Hillary.
https://twitter.com/Awakene…
Yeah he choked on Hillary’s emails. Kook…
He could have had regular internet privileges in jail. Barney….
So funny watching two homophobes like you and JH jerking each other off.
BJJ chokeholds = broke. Old timey fisticuffs = woke.
EDPs have retard strength so you absolutely need to bring the finishing moves.
Mills Lane ain’t there to officiate.
at least neither of them had a semi-ottomatic…
Lock him up.
Can’t lock up Jordan Neely.
He’s already dead.