Sublime redux. Ready to set it off.
Sublime redux. Ready to set it off.

World Surf League gagging for another riot as Sublime set to reggae rock US Open of Surfing

"What's that I see in Huntington Beach??!!"

Chain wallet wearers and those who iron the brims of their baseball caps rejoiced, yesterday, thrusting broken knuckled fists into the heated valley air as it was announced that Sublime will headline the US Open of Surfing’s musical offering on August 3rd.

The World Surf League, which sanctions the yearly bacchanal wherein professional surfers bounce up and down upon their boards, explained the formerly popular band features, “original members Eric Wilson and Bud Gaugh, with Jakob Nowell, son of the late Bradley Nowell, as front man.” The Global Home of Surfing added, “special guest Makua Rothman is also set to perform. The intimate, one-night show will be hosted on the sand at the south side of the Huntington Beach Pier.”

Whilst Rothman’s musical stylings will certainly be enjoyed, the intimacy might be lightly overshadowed by the riot that will almost certainly be taking place.

Rioting and the US Open have become synonymous over the years, bashing windows, flipping portable potties, wearing bandanas and fighting all as much a part of the show as foam climbs. Usually, the riot needs some music in order to kick it off though. Modest Mouse got the last one going in 2014.

Ten years on, riot aficionados are hoping that Sublime’s ska punk slash reggae rock stylings will be more conducive to a longer and larger brawl.

A run on Dickies heavy weight shorts expected.

Tickets for the show will be available for pre-sale beginning Friday, June 28, at 8:00 a.m. PDT using the password: feellikethat.

The general on-sale will open on Sunday, June 30, at 8:00 a.m. PDT.

What’s that I see in Huntington Beach??!! Sun, Surf, and Sublime at the US Open! Come claim your spot and be a part of history,” Sublime drummer Bud Gaugh declared, leaving out “shivaree” though heavily implying it.

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Board Barnacle

Fat white old men playing reggae music. That’ll do me.

deeks

just put on Bob and watch a John Goodman film

Top Cunt

Chain wallets, shorts past the knees, and pitbulls

Ron

Wow, beachgrit much like the WSL has become nothing if not a spectacle, rather than spectacular, whoch of course is a bar too high for either, but could be above that of a spectacle … clearly the new gens have far lower expectations .

deeks

oh shit yeah ! They think protools is a band

Occ Topus

Quack.
Last Poets > 100 Sublimes

Low wide stinkbug stance

when I see “joiny” I get ben kenobi vibes when they call him obi wan.

Nonagon_Infinity

a cigarette rests between her lips but I’m staring at her titts..

Low wide stinkbug stance

I think we might be related.

Nonagon_Infinity

if the crowd is verging on rioting, they could play their cover of Grateful Dead’s Scarlet Begonias..

No Feelings

More a satire than a cover. Much improved over the original. But I’m right there with Chas WRT the Dead.

deeks

https://youtu.be/5jjr-wv1W2…

all you need

disqus_00d1gIXedO

ha! patos en el pueblo por el verano pues

disqus_00d1gIXedO

there’s a remarkable level of gabachismo on this thread & in general of late, even for this place. sometimes i come to marvel. it’s impossible to just leave it be, and i’ve taken great pleasure in coming in blazing at times. almost to the level of “just can’t do this anymore.” in the words of Chief Joseph, Nez Perce legend, “i will fight no more, forever.”

when you encounter things like, “is there ANY other band who made a riot song?” or whatever was said, it’s sorta deflating. a lot of folks down here prolly have black & messican & insert whatever else here friends tho, so they’re not operating from any implicitly racial-tinged places. at all. just ask ’em!

Gil Gunderson

Couple of my mates froth on Sublime. I don’t get it, but then again, I’m half normal.

disqus_00d1gIXedO

LA, south of the 10: “That’s not a riot. Hold my beer, crackers.”
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Internet Technician - Level 5

The good ole chain wallets.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

Police and thieves.

Picard Madeoff

The memory of Ronnie G seems to be missing from your post and prose offered by Chas.

Piskian

From this to the ridiculous.

Ramathorn

Got me with the Dickies shorts. What an era. Cypress Hill, Everlast, Fun Lovin Criminals

Greebnurt Hurkurmurgurt

Just gave away some of my old ones. They seem to have shrunk in my closet.

Dogsnuts

You are making this way too easy for some stab commenters to adhere beach grit tailpads to their torso’s and have you in fact pinned for inciting a riot Chas.
Be afraid!
Xox

Picard Madeoff

The bizarre mix of old school HB inhabitants and the new school meth kings makes for exciting times. I’ll have to be there wearing a Ronnie G t-shirt

Stick man

“Well qualified to represent the …WSL?”

Kama'aina

Sublime has always been a good cover band.

Kama'aina

Like the kind you would see for free on a wednesday afternoon at a mall.

disqus_00d1gIXedO

i’d want to account for a man’s firearms purchases & social media posts were he to show up at a mall on a wednesday afternoon. any day, really, is red flag behavior.

Kama'aina

As are white sunglasses and a Sublime tee from Urban Outfitters

disqus_00d1gIXedO

at this point we’re basically putting probably 85% of the BGers on blast, primo.

i’m not saying i don’t dislike it, tho.

No Feelings

It’s impossible for me to understand the appeal of The Beatles in 1964. To me, they’re just a really overrated boy band. But I can understand something about Sublime’s place, since I can remember it.

When Sublime really got traction 30 years later, and 30 years ago, they occupied a niche that had not existed. Music had existed in silos. Sublime broke that down, and brought party rock, reggae, ska, rap, punk, a little Grateful Dead, a bit of Norteño, etc. together on one CD, and sometimes in one song. And who could forget Raleigh Theodore Sakers?

Similar words have been attributed to Picasso, Steve Jobs, and David Lee Roth.

Lesser artists borrow. Great artists steal. Or, steal from one artist and that’s called plagiarism. Steal from everyone, and it’s called genius!

Whatever you think of the cheesy tattooed brah flat hat wallet chain culture that grew around them, or around their memory, Sublime had a huge cultural impact. The silos the late 1970s and 1980s had built for music, broke apart with Sublime. That’s the cultural space they still occupy, whether or not they were nearly as good as their outsized reputation (built mostly posthumously in Bradley’s case) would claim.

Then again, this makes it sound like Sublime is all about Gen X nostalgia. And I guess it’s true.

NEGATRON

Huge cultural impact*

*In my Neighborhood.

No Feelings

Well, yeah. Sublime had a real impact from Isla Vista all the way to Pacific Beach, and every other flat visor Mecca in between. 😁

The only places in the US that are even more moronically myopic and provincial than SoCal, are New York City and the North Shore.

Barnycle

You don’t understand. They were more important that the Beatles. He can’t understand the Beatles, so they were clearly unimportant……..culturally

No Feelings

The Beatles were important culturally. Their early songs were not very good, by modern standards. I truly don’t get why they were such a big deal in 1964. I get why Sublime was a big deal in 1994 but only becausei was there.

Some of the Beatles’ later stuff was ground breaking but they disintegrated as they recorded it.

Low wide stinkbug stance

I think it’s become common to view (or even judge) the past through present eyes.

Basically thats the cancel culture playbook. Yes you can call it retrospective if you must, but it fails to consider the impact at the time.

I mean look at Wayne Lynch or Tom Curren and you might appreciate the style but as for the manoeuvres, well they are way behind Medina or JJ. Tube riding possibly the only exception.

Or look at how many people can break a 4 minute mile but we still put it up as one of the great sporting achievements.

No Feelings

Totally agree. It is absolutely like that.

I’m acknowledging that I can’t know what it was really like. I can, with Sublime, because I was there. With the Beatles, I can only read about it. And it’s not always about virtuosity.

It can be. Rush made rock smart. Queen made it operatic. Etc. But that’s not always what it’s about.

SectionSB

Lana del Rey does a nice Sublime cover……I was 10 in 64….Beatles were quite novel then. Then acid….I switched to Zappa and Hendrix for some years, Santana too…

Dogsnuts

I think you are a bit silly.
Xox

No Feelings

Yeah, most people don’t get it when one is both serious and not serious at the same time. But it’s entertaining, to me anyway.

Low wide stinkbug stance

Music existed in silos? Well of course it does. Its called genre.

suspect you mean bands (not music) exist in silos but even that’s wrong. Compare “I wanna hold your hand” with “yesterday” with “sgt peppers”, those songs sound nothing alike.

Some bands never change. Like AC/DC, the Cure, bad religion. All their songs always sound the same. But then you have artists like Bowie or Dylan who morph from one to another.

I don’t know who this sublime band is, you’re not selling them to me 🙂

No Feelings

Genre was a much more rigid thing, once upon a time. I think it had to do with radio station formats, payola, etc. That’s why I used the term “silo” which implies no cross-pollination. Quiet Riot was not exactly influenced by Amy Grant or 2 Live Crew. Probably didn’t even know who they were.

I’m not trying to sell Sublime to anyone, just trying to explain why they had an impact when and where they did.

Honestly I would love to hear someone who was an adult in 1964, what the big deal about the Beatles was.

I think Bowie was trying to create genres, Dylan didn’t really notice genre, and Zappa was a wild creative mind that just did whatever came to him in the moment. None of them were really trying to get radio hits.

Low wide stinkbug stance

’64 was way before I was born. But the thing with that era was the UK was coming out of the post war rebuild. I mean there was Elvis and Rock and Roll but there was also a lot of really conservative crap in all aspects of life, and you weren’t even allowed to say the word “bloody” on air. The snoopy vs red baron song had to have it bleeped out (the Beatles wrote obla di obla da to mock it). Plus there was absolute shite like cliff Richard on the air.

Even the Beatles cut hairdo was outrageous because it was “long hair” in 1964.

If you were around in 1991 when nevermind came out you’ll remember it completely changed music, everything else got left in the dust even if huge acts like Madonna and U2 had enough momentum to keep going. Well the Beatles was like that but x100.

Chief Hot stuff
No Feelings

Right. I can read that and it makes perfect sense. I just can’t ever feel it for myself, because sometimes you just have to be there.

Picard Madeoff

I was 28 when Nevermind came out and I couldn’t get enough of it. It was poetic, harsh, raw and exactly what was needed at the time. The evolution out of 80s new wave, punk, hair bands, metal, Dwight’s psychobilly and whatever else was out there needed to be pushed forward or aside. As for the Beatles I find myself still listening and reading their lyrics on occasion just as I do with Steely Dan, Sublime, The P Furs and Echo and the Bunnymen, etc.

It’s all good

SaltyHB
Picard Madeoff

I’m playing my Sublime, Steely Dan and Dwight Yoakam Spotify mix right now.

Chief Hot stuff

Youve never really listened to the Beatles

No Feelings

No. They’ve been foisted on me against my will for most of my life. I will never be able to really appreciate them. I’ll never be able to really hear them.

This is true of Sublime for many people, too, I’m sure.

FL Skunk Ape

Your opinion is cool and all. But the Beatles an overrated boy band? Makes me not want to read past that, because there is no way on earth you would know wtf you are talking about when it comes to music with that kind of comment. And I am squarely Gen X.

No Feelings

In 1964.

By 1969 they had really done a lot of exploration and innovation.

When they first came to the US to meet stadiums full of screaming girls, they were playing a lot of mediocre covers of American rock and roll songs. Shit, they were kids, themselves.

It was like the Backstreet Boys evolved and in a few years, became Pink Floyd.

I just never understood the screaming fans in 1964. There’s just no way I can transport myself into a time before the Beatles to understand what hearing them meant, in 1964.

Does that make sense?

SaltyHB

No.

Rightdownthegooch

Led Zeppelin too!

Kama'aina

Sure, but Sublime with 99% of their music being covers they may be the best. Brad used the genius of tempo and medley to introduce the frat boys to punk and reggae. Makes me want a 40oz of freedom and to go get lost… across America just thinking about it.

Beef & Beer

At first glance having a reformed utter shit band like Sublime play that event seems like the worst thing ever.

But with equally utter shit Makuakai ‘Pidgin’ Rothman also on the bill it’s confirmed to be doubly worse.

There will be no celebratory riot.
Any potential rioters will flee the area with their hands clamped firmly over their ears to escape the hideously double utter shit noise emanating from the stage.

A worse utter shit experience would be hard to find, anywhere, and sincere commiserations should be offered to all who’d accidentally find themselves within a 3 mile radius of the unfortunate affair.

Many many sincere commiserations…

No Feelings

LOL

Isn’t Rothman Reform, too? He doesn’t seem Orthodox.

ValiantScorn

1. The Sublime I knew in the 90’s required much alcohol to enjoy live.
2. The honorable pidgin Rothman family by way of Ohio.


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