Raglan in all of its glory. Indicators top, Whale middle, Manu bottom.
Raglan in all of its glory. Indicators top, Whale middle, Manu bottom.

Confusion spreads about where, exactly, the World Surf League is staging its Raglan contest

"The pros will light up anything, but the world class, long, rippable left at Raglan is not at Manu Bay. IMHO."

Metaphorical bombs have been dropping on professional surfing, of late, more ground-shaking rumbles over the last week than in the entire last six months combined. First, J-Bay getting pulled from tour due alleged financial stresses, next John John Florence extending his sabbatical, abdicating his season-long wild card, finally J-Bay being replaced by Raglan, a racing left licking New Zealand’s fabled shore.

Raglan was, of course, put on the map by famous first on Luke Cederman, outsiders and dumb-dumbs assuming that there is only one “Raglan” and it is the wave Cederman shreds kooks upon.

Thankfully, there are insiders who know and one just so happened to write into The Grit! to spread fact.

According to Jamie:

As we know WSL has replaced J Bay with the world class, long, rippable left at Raglan, New Zealand. It it hasn’t. It’s at Manu Bay, not the world class long rippable left at Raglan. Let me explain.

Raglan is a wonderful wee town with three primary breaks: Manu Bay, Whale Bay and Indicators. Furthest along the point is Indicators, which can be a world class, long, rippable left and is the break that features in the photos you normally see of Raglan. Whale Bay, in the middle and separate from Indicators, a slower, fatter and fun left. Manu Bay is the first break you come to, and not world class and not long. Separate from the other two breaks, it sections at the top, wraps around a corner for 30 – 40 meters of nice wall then fattens and slows down. If we want the waves to be the stars, Manu Bay is not a nominee.

To be fair, at low tide in a big swell with an offshore, Manu Bay barrels at the top, but this is rare. The pros will light up anything, but the world class, long, rippable left at Raglan is not at Manu Bay. IMHO.

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Strayan Cunt

I was worried about this year when I heard J Bay and Jon had dropped off, but then some Kiwi fella on the other thread told me Manu is as good as Snapper and the tour is the strongest its been in years and now I’m frothing again yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew

astro

He lied.

Strayan Cunt

Haha I know mate. I think our resident moderator Nigs might be taking backhanders from the WOZ, worrying times

Hippy

Is snapper better on souths or tropical swell?

Strayan Cunt

Like Mick says in that clip ESE is perfect for Snapper but anything from Se to East is good. It hates south swells cuz it misses there and what does get in really bends out to sea off the bank. Main thing too is obviously the sand. Kirra is slightly different though and I reckon SE is the perfect swell direction cuz when its more east it gets too fast. In saying that I surfed myself stupid during that Alfred swell there and that was pretty east

Hippy

What i was inferring is, Snapper is better in late summer than winter.

They can’t schedule events in the right months?

Strayan Cunt

Aaah I’m hearing ya mate. May can still be epic but its really fucking late in the season. Main Superwank season like you say is Jan to April and the later for Bells the better so they should be switched but the early easter weekend is a problem

Hippy

Easter Bells is a joke.

June Bells at least Winki will be contestable 🙂

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

summer

longtomssecondcuztwiceremoved

I like E/NE for the Coolie points, E/SE-SE for down here.

I missed all of Alfred pretty much- couple of shitty sessions in Byron.

Son had to get a tooth pulled at the dentist the day I was going up to Kirra.

astro

Hims a judge. So indirectly on the payroll via SurfNZ.
And yea, he has been known to side generally with wooz judging.
But not really with management so yea, he’s been as fair as he can be while also being a bit tainted. Hahahahar
#Pipe Final Forever !

Strayan Cunt

Haha yeh he just always seems so pro WSL which is just fucking mental to me

astro

He’s also an A grade shit stirrer, so have that in mind…. Hahahahar

Strayan Cunt

Hahahaha

Strayan Cunt

I love Negs but my honest feeling is he has a very sheltered view of the world and the state of surfing. He said he was embarrassed to be a white, heterosexual male cuz I slated KK and her interview with the poison dwarf. Then after I jokingly said the rich “poofters” moving up here from Sydney had ruined the joint he said I was the “type of guy who would have used to call blacks niggers?” I am mainly Greek and Spanish in heritage and endured years of racist comments growing up so found his take offensive and laughable and called him out on it.

Now he says El Sleepy, Manu Bay and Slowers are as good as Snapper and when I call him out he just backs down and when I press him he just says if I want to just argue call my ex misses hahahaha. Hey I’m an outspoken cunt who laughs at nearly everything but surfing is one of those rare things I consider myself half decent at and will call out bullshit. Don’t blame the rest of yous for not calling out the warden but I’m a Strayan cunt and ain’t built that way hahaha

@TheRealJackMeoff

You think you are the only one to never go there?
🤣🤣🤣
Just remember it’s his sandbox and we are all just crapping in it.

NEGATRON

You think about me more than my Gal. xx

Strayan Cunt

Yeh but I aint going anywhere near that tiny prong of yours mate haha

Abscessed Llama

He use to the smell with his day job.. little fore finger stir and click..

Hippy

Astro drops in with bombs! Well done

Strayan Cunt

Here’s hoping its a lefthand version of this faaaaaaaaaark

RQ.

while it’s no snapper, after the last sand shuffle a hideous dredging section did appear a bit down from the ledge.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBhl0vXT5fT/?img_index=1

RQ.
RQ.
Strayan Cunt

Why did that pussy cunt straighten out? Its like a Kiwi, goofy version of Pip

RQ.

it was fucking horrible if I remember correctly. couldn’t get a rail in to it.

Hippy

From where?

Hippy

Your mate is a moron

Strayan Cunt

Haha na Negs is a ledge, just reading his take on the other thread just makes me think he doesn’t have a clue about good waves. Putting Snapper on the same level as El Sleepy, Manu and Slowers is one of the wildest takes on surfing I’ve ever heard hahaha

@TheRealJackMeoff

For as good as Snapper gets it almost never happens in the event.
Sure there are moments but usually kind of wonky, plus the transitions seem a little pinched.
But a fun watch all the same.

Anon

Manu Bay is where all the cool longboarding hipsters park their vans, also, the only place in Raglan you can sit in your car watching people miss time the rock jump

deeks

A little stall sellin wax would be perfect there…maybe not for the hipsters.

Anon

You might do better selling locally roasted, fair trade sourced, organic coffee. The longboarders would lap it up and it actually goes great with the rock jump people watching

deeks

Nah I meant the wax for their windscreens

Michael Flatlately

Raglan is so hipster you get you windscreen full deck gripped.

Firelipe Torpedo

Crisscross applesauce is too awesome a replacement to be ignored

Dogsnuts

The Wozzle continuing to be the toxic ex you let back into your life.
Xox

PacificNorthPest

And she’s on the Raglan?

RQ.

if they could somehow run it at pumping Indicators (near impossible for many reasons), it would be an AAaamaaaaaazzzing comp.

if they run it at pumping Manu Bay, it will be a great comp.

chances of getting it cooking during that window are low though, so it could be in lumpy, shouldery lefts.

if it is run in absolute dribble, hopefully people will be warned off coming hahaha.

Chief Hot stuff

Why cant they run it from boats?

RQ.

a few reasons, but the main one off the top of my head would be that if it is over 4-6 foot, launching any kind of boat becomes a pretty risky endeavour. no sheltered harbour.
they could run from land, but I imagine getting the OK from everyone needed would have been near impossible. also, there would be zero room left over for spectators.

Chief Hot stuff

Ok ta

JSC

Apparently, the land surrounding Indicators is still private property, there used to be a big fence blocking access and the lineup view that has since been removed, but still restricted access – can’t assemble all the infrastructure for an event on private property without permission, fee payment, etc

RQ.

yep. there is a big section at the end of Calvert Road that would be vital for a comp, but I assume the owners want nothing to do with comps. Fence is still there. amazing piece of coast.
loads of other properties along the actual indies coast, but only one has the room and potential to host the full circus:
https://www.tewhaangaretreat.com/
and i assume they will make more from renting the accom than the wsl would ever give them.

@TheRealJackMeoff

SSpeaking of such things it appears you’ve been hijacked.
Or maybe he was there first?
https://youtube.com/@surfxploree?si=BfFnUywszLTXUwA_

JSC

Thanks but different spelling – our ® trademark is “surfEXPLORE”.

Rather average materials – noting particularly interesting.

Otto

A conundrum of sorts. How much left is too much left.

Hippy

It’s weak and the towns description of spots is weaker

Makes me think they are hiding things, ah the conundrum of blowing out a location while keeping the near by’s quiet

astro

Given that the weather hasn’t been very cooperative lately, I have great faith that Huey will blow a howling gale for a couple weeks over this period. Ain’t much to do in Rags with shit weather.

Hippy

Your spot is heaps better

Would you invite the tour ?

astro

Fuck off.

Hippy

There you go

astro

without knowing any details whatsoever, I suspect that ultimate cuntard Starkey broadened his scope and with SurfNZ made a presentation filled full of false promises. Don’t think anyone here wants the fucken circus apart from a few Auckwackers who stand to profit.

Hippy

Bingo

I’m predicting one and done.

Maybe they can add St Leu back on the books!

Hippy

Oh wait, too far, too expensive of flights

astro

They’d have been better to go back to Ulu but I guess the Indos are wise to the Wooz these days, so may be not an option.
But yea, one and done …. We’ve got homeless everywhere now. Don’t need to blow money on a stinking circus to attract hordes more ramen eating grifters when we’ve got more urgent issues.

Hippy

Free campers!!!!

JSC

Are you referring to Albatross Point, where two local fellows fired rifle shots at visiting surfers?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/21/trio-shot-at-while-surfing-at-remote-invitation-only-new-zealand-beach

Hippy

No

Abscessed Llama

lol

Hippy

You should fly there and expose the entire region!

JSC

You pay? Airfare, vehicle, accommodation, per diem food and beverages –


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