Real Talk: JJF is past his prime!

John John Florence suffers the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune!

How cruel is this surfing world? One minute you are the past, present and future all rolled into one. The next you are a punching bag in lowly comment sections. “What the hell happened to John John?” the people type. “And Dane Reynolds is fat.”

I don’t actually know if John John Florence is well and truly past his prime. He did not live up to his competitive promise last year that’s for certain but there does seem to be an overwhelming exodus moving away from the once commonly held belief that the beast was the best surfer in the world. I’ve read about how “Mmmmm he can do a couple airs and get barreled but that’s about it…” I’ve also heard people say “He’s ok but Gabby is better.”

Again, true? Honey, there is no such thing. Perception is all that exists in this surfing world. There is no “winning,” no fastest time or highest jump or longest throw. So if the majority of people, or even a very vocal minority, feel John John is spent then he is spent. His fans could go red in the face explaining how technically advanced he is, how magical, how wonderful, but if their entreaties are met with indifference then they have failed.

Pure subjectivity combined with an ever faster spinning globe proves an almost impossible weight to bear. Brother Andino, barely into his 20s, gets described as a has-been. Jordy Smith, still three long years from 30, has been a has-been for the better part of a decade. Kelly Slater is, somehow, the only surfer not governed by the laws of our universe and JJF ain’t no Kelly.

Can he soar again? Most certainly! Our cruelness is only matched by our fickleness. What wonderful traits we all share!

 

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Danny
Danny
10 years ago

For people like me, and I’m majority, who only see these guys surfing on the WSL webcast or in surf videos is pretty hard to compare surfers. Specially if they are as talented as JJ and Medina. Obviously competition is not the best way to measure a surfer talent. But what about surf videos? Is it fare to say that JJ is a better surfer than Gabby based on surf videos? JJ makes a bunch every year. Medina can be seen in some Rip Curl edits and that’s pretty much it.

CHANCHO
CHANCHO
10 years ago

Hum…look at our past champs and then ask yourself how much credibility does it hold. Whose expectations ? Who cares ? His sponsors. You can’t get paid billions a year without having some expectations on you, it is a fucking huge investment and the actual ROI is………………zero. Oh no wait we have a Rio Pro win and another in France. But none at Fiji, Teahupo’o or even Pipe whereas he’s supposed to be some sort of new prophet on those waves. I tell you, some voices are starting to raise and not only from guys like me…All JJ has to do is to work a little bit, like every guy on tour does. Not complicated when you’re talented like him

Huckleberry
Huckleberry
10 years ago

People are stupid

david fffff
david fffff
10 years ago

John John passed his prime after his 1991 Oprah appearance…

Huckleberry
Huckleberry
10 years ago

People are stupid

J H
J H
10 years ago

If only that were true…

toofattosurf
toofattosurf
10 years ago

HE cares if HE never win a WT, believe me…

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
10 years ago

Is there anything lamer than public opinion? The wretched idiot cousin of Democracy. Like a dog running in circles trying to lick its own genitals. Imagine relying on it for a living!

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

Nick Carroll’s a fascist!?!?! Is it because public opinion canonized his brother? Isn’t there a related episode in the Old Testament? I bet Curren would know.

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
10 years ago

If I started surfing like ADS my friends would bash me. That’s our world champ.

toofattosurf
toofattosurf
10 years ago

…what if you surf like damien hardman, at least would be twice as champ… front pad ‘n all…

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
10 years ago
Reply to  toofattosurf

my dad surfs better than the ice man the 91 world title should be his. we now know who’s posters ads had on his wall as a young kid

toofattosurf
toofattosurf
10 years ago

efficiency is a bitch…

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago

I feel that in every post Mr. Chas Smith makes, more than half the public overlooks the ironic and satiric intent. A literal-minded ship of fools…also the most offended by Mr. Smith’s wagers.

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
10 years ago
Reply to  Mariano Landa

I think the satire aspect is pretty obvious…. also he knows what he’s doing. mentioning gaybriel and john john in the same article is guaranteed to rile up the comments section. it’s really slutty.

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago

Of course it’s obvious. Of course it’s intentional. And if it’s getting him casual sex with acquaintances, then maybe it’s slutty. I’m just appalled by the literal-minded bogans that can’t come to terms with it and take it as a personal affront.

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago
Reply to  Mariano Landa

“Appalled” is overstating it, I’ve no emotional investment here. “Entertained” and “surprised” maybe.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
10 years ago
Reply to  Mariano Landa

ANGRY MEN YELLING WITH CAPS LOCK ON tend to just skim read at the best of times…

Doobalachy
Doobalachy
10 years ago

30 is the new 20 so give the child some time to rebirth and he will be fine…or burn out and become a depressed meth addict due to all the social media pressure brought on by an impatient public and media,…or live like taj and earn his 6m a year for the next 10 or 15, come agonising close to the top 5 a few time, console himself by becoming the King of jaws, winning the triple crown a few times and winning the groupie ménage a trios tour 6 years running.

J H
J H
10 years ago

Whores? Where????

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago

Or two swabs of duct tape. Such unfortunate nipple placement.

Litmus and Chill
Litmus and Chill
10 years ago
Reply to  Mariano Landa

I think one swab would be just fine.

Litmus and Chill
Litmus and Chill
10 years ago

Because his nipples are so close together.

Trogan Fan
Trogan Fan
10 years ago

There actually is “winning” in surfing. ADS and Gabby are the last two guys to win.

david fffff
david fffff
10 years ago
Reply to  Trogan Fan

Your two year memory is an even larger anomaly than 3 years ago when you had no memory.

Shurley
Shurley
10 years ago

Still nothing to overshadow my chest

Tom House
Tom House
10 years ago

Fish and Chips are good.

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago

As has been said before: if he didn’t look like Alfred E. Neuman’s first cousin, the world would be eternally enraptured with JJF, results be damned.

J H
J H
10 years ago
Reply to  Mariano Landa

My wife insists that he’s cute. And yes, she’s seen him in person.

Mob Barley
Mob Barley
10 years ago
Reply to  J H

your wife’s a wannabee groupie or legally blind…

J H
J H
10 years ago
Reply to  Mob Barley

She drives a car everyday so that rules out blindness. Actually come to think of it….she teaches 7th Grade Special Ed so maybe that’s where her concept of “cute” comes from.

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago
Reply to  J H

Do her insides melt at the sight of Brock Little in his prime? Mine do.

J H
J H
10 years ago
Reply to  Mariano Landa

She barely knows Brock and that’s only because of Clark’s gallery in Haleiwa. We’d usually wander through on a crappy day and I’d have to remind her of who was who. Oh well.

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
10 years ago
Reply to  J H

“See that gorgeous specimen there? That’s Brock Little…”

J H
J H
10 years ago

I think the dreamy look on my face kinda freaks her out.

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago
Reply to  J H

She must have seen Nathan or Ivan.

J H
J H
10 years ago
Reply to  Mariano Landa

Nate kinda scares me.

CHANCHO
CHANCHO
10 years ago

Well it is sad to say that, but it’s true. If you look at the facts, John John ain’t no Kelly, Andy, Medina or even Parko…he hasn’t won a world title. He could be compared to Dane, but again, Dane has reached a status John John might never have if he keeps nose picking all year long. He’s a kind of modern Jordy Smith, a chick in freesurf and another on worldtour, never knowing where to sit properly or injured. I used to love John John and the way he surfed in competition, but now all I wanna do is grab a megaphone and tell him to choose a chair and move those fucking fingers out of his ass.

Jon Pyzel
Jon Pyzel
10 years ago

you guys are falling asleep at the wheel here.

Jimmy the Saint
Jimmy the Saint
10 years ago

Is Jack Robbo a has been yet, or is that next month!

Leosurf1
Leosurf1
10 years ago

Yeah I’m starting to realize a pattern here. Non-existent controversy is the new ‘content’

Chas Smith
Chas Smith
10 years ago
Reply to  Leosurf1

This ain’t no controversy. Just a hard truth. The tide of general sentiment has turned for the boy…

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago
Reply to  Chas Smith

Agreed, not controversy. That’s what Blood Feuds are for!

It’s crazy, because if he were the eleventh-best doctor trying to cure cancer or sixteenth-best economist reducing income disparity, such negative public sentiment would never exist. Only in vapid pursuits do we crucify our savants.

Chas Smith
Chas Smith
10 years ago
Reply to  Mariano Landa

So so so true.

Leosurf1
Leosurf1
10 years ago
Reply to  Chas Smith

So your a guy who ‘doesn’t actually know if John is past his prime’ but your damn well sure 10 people out there in the world think so, so why not write an article about it.

Mob Barley
Mob Barley
10 years ago
Reply to  Chas Smith

the tide if you are reading all the Brazilian’s comments on STAB maybe? hard truth? that shit’s comical. You sir, as a writer, now that’s a has been. real talk.

frothdogg
frothdogg
10 years ago
Reply to  Chas Smith

Opinion is all it is. Hard truth, tide of general sentiment .. blah bla
it is just some bulshit you sucked out your ass to knock up an article at the end of the week.

Chas Smith
Chas Smith
10 years ago

I think next week. Or that’s what my calendar says…

Trogan Fan
Trogan Fan
10 years ago

Still a “to be”. Soon though. That kid’s amazing.

Mariano Landa
Mariano Landa
10 years ago
Reply to  Trogan Fan

Hyped on that kid getting in the mix ASAP, and the fact that surfers that Google his name will get a history lesson on the racial integration of American professional sports.

Lord 2.0
Lord 2.0
10 years ago

And a follow up piece aptly titled “what went wrong for Noa Beschen”


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