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Podcast: “Chas is that little creature!”

"...who is just antagonizing the FUCK out of everyone!"

We live in the golden age of surf journalism, and I certainly don’t need to remind you, but we live in the golden age of surf radio too. It is totally true and where would we be without the glorious podcast? We’d be sad is where. Especially Occy. He’d be sad and sitting alone in his closet with an unplugged microphone and list of anecdotes that no one would ever hear.

But we do have many podcasts and we know Occy’s stories and the world is right.

One of my favorites is Ain’t That Swell with Jed Smith and Vaughn Dead. The two have been at it as long as anyone and have a wonderfully light rapport, easy-listening yet still bawdy voices and a command over the subject matter.

In their latest episode, featuring guest Danny Johnson from Surfing World, there was a segment called Under or Over wherein the three discussed if certain topics were under performing or over performing.

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Surf journos turning on each other was brought up and Vaughn declared it “under performing” saying, “Who fucking cares, mate? Arrrrgh!”

Jed added, “This is the thing. This is what makes it worth ripping into other surf journalist because at the same time who fucking cares?”

Then Vaughn said, “Let’s rattle off a few examples of what we’re talking about.”

Jed picked up the thread and declared, “Alright so we had Charlie Smith vs. The Inertia, Charlie Smith vs. Stab magazine…”

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Vaughn interjected, “He’s on a fucking roll!”

While Jed continued, “Charlie Smith vs. Mick Fanning, who admittedly isn’t a journalist. Who else has Chas taken on?”

And then either Vaughn or guest Danny Johnson (forgive me… the lack of visuals is the downside of a podcast) yelled, “Everyone! Well he did an episode of Surf Splendor during the week but uh he just seems like he is that little creature who is just antagonizing the FUCK out of everyone just desperate for a response and when he gets it it’s a little victory to Chas but I think everyone else just seems to be terrified of him. That’s how it feels. People just have their fingers crossed, please don’t talk about me, please don’t have a go at me, I don’t want to get involved in this shit and… I don’t know. I don’t know whether people are intentionally flagging him because they can’t be fucked or whether they’re too scared or what’s going on but, yeah he’s going after everyone, man and… I guess he said it best himself. He’s lobbing grenades and he’s not getting any thrown back at him because either a) they’re scared or b) they don’t give one flying fuck but I have a feeling it’s a bit of both.”

Such a wonderful exchange but if I may add my two cents. The general tone of the discussion (listen below around the 28 minute mark) is that surf journalism is absurd and that throwing stones, or grenades as it were, is pointless and dumb. I whole-heartedly agree with one caveat. Having dabbled in war journalism, political journalism and fashion journalism enough I can say that those are utterly absurd too. No more and no less absurd than surf journalism.

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Which is why I do what I do. Surf journalism, as absurd and pointless as it is, is also much more fun. The stories are fun, the the excesses are fun, the rumors are fun and the “fights” are fun.

We really do have differences of opinions. I think The Inertia is a giant piece of shit. I think Stab is embarrassingly derivative. And I write about these two, any anyone else in my way, because it’s fun. Why are they too chicken to respond? Vaughn/Danny thinks they’re either scared or don’t give a flying fuck.

I know they’re scared and that is why I’ll continue to lob my grenades.

We’re all yellow journalists, after all. I’m just Hearst looking for my Pulitzer.

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lorne

i got a question on ain’t that swell one episode paying out “former world tour ripper” Ross Williams, basically saying given his insight as a commentator you have to assume he would have nothing to offer JJF as a coach. but instead of laying in the boot they both buttered him up, are surf podcasters / journos scared of biting the hand that feeds?

Chazz Michael Michaels

If it makes you feel better, Chas, I have pitched one or two responses that would have granted you the desired antagonistic reaction. Unfortunately they’ve been pitched right back, the abbreviated message being “nothing to gain…” And I can’t disagree with this, but that doesn’t quell my desire to rip into people for fun. I mean, I can see your point. You are a ludicrous figure. I have no clue how you get away with it. Vague bigotry aside, is Mick Fanning the only good judge of character in the entire industry?

Eddie Haiku

You never have anything interesting to say. Best you just be silent.

Chazz Michael Michaels

I’m never much interested in your contribution either – so get fucked!

Eddie Haiku

Such a charming man!

Chas Smith

And I thank you for your effort! Zach said the same thing to me about the “nothing to gain…” which totally kills me.

channelbottom

I can’t be arsed with podcasts. Just write it down.

wally

Perhaps the reticence is because, if they do throw a little barb back, they know that 10 years later Chas will still be going on about it.

NEGATRON

One half of a certain podcast posts here regularly only to delete his comments within minutes… (I can still see the deleted comments)

bitter guy

ghost post

Audit In Progress

Namez pleeeeze

Chazz Michael Michaels

Yeah…go on…

Mike Jennings

Hahahahaa, Aaaaahhh. Hey guys.

Spade

Double entendre in the first paragraph? sneaky jab

longtom

they should be fucking scared of getting thrown under the bus by Chas……if you’ve got half a heart and any kind of pride in your manhood or womanhood it’s a terrifying prospect.

Otherwise, you’re a worthless gimp hack looking for a handout and a goody bag for “trying hard”.

Jed if you’re reading, it’s fucking Doste-offsky mate, not that christian bed wetter Tolstoy.

Eddie Haiku

Really? Scared of fucking words? There’s plenty to be scared of in life and words aren’t even on the short list.

longtom

maybe true

Wiggolly's Paddling Style

They also made some reference to the brilliance of the comment section. The blokes writing about surfing for dough are fucken gimps.

Mariano Landa

Where do we sign up for the royalties, hey?

Nick Carroll

Honestly, we’re not. Like, scared of what? I’m only in two clubs, and half the people in both of them already hate me.

Wiggolly's Paddling Style

You’re in the hack club alright.

Lemon Next to the Pie

Well, why would you join a club that would accept you as a member anyway?

Jen See

But also, I think it’s weird that there are dudes who might be scared of Chas, because omg he wrote something mean about them. Has no one ever called them dumb on the internet before? Bros, you would never survive as a chick. Like, ever.

Otto

When I read this, I imagined Chas saying this aloud in the third person while frenetically typing away

Jen See

Yessss I am doing this now too and it is so good. So good.

channelbottom

I’m gonna post this again at you since it seemed to trigger you last time. https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

Otto

Chas is right. Lobbing grenades is fun. It’s not friendly fire. It’s all about firing friendly, and absurdity, and pointless fun.

channelbottom

“BLOODFEUD- That Dead Whale at Trestles vs ChannelBottom”

Otto

Let’s begin. You think John Peel (including his angle) was “one of the most amazing radio dj’s ever”. Others think your hero’s angle was a predator who got his kicks getting a 15 year old teenage girl pregnant when he was 30. As well reported in the UK, he was separated at the time from his American wife whom he married when she was 15, and his ‘teenage kicks’ pregnant victim can prove it by a written postcard admitting to such penned by your hero John Peel’s very own hand.

channelbottom

WoooH! OK. Didn’t know much anything about “‘teenage kicks’ pregnant victim” but fair research on your part. Elvis was also a bit sketchy I understand, as were others…

You realise he actually married “Pig” his one-time underage (ok sketchy) GF and had a LONGTIME (til his death) marriage with several kids / loving solid family. Not defending any other underage oddness.

Still the most influential DJ in regards to promoting radical genres (Extreme Noise Terrror next to tripped-out outer Mongolian Chantresses) back-to-back to the delight of multiple generations of listeners. His sonic heritage cannot be discounted.

Never mind that though… you seem to be on a knife edge of angry/friendly. You need a good surf sesh / leg-over, honey-bunny.

BTW, you win. I am officially now stopping commenting and going back to actual surfing now that my ear is better as of last Docs appointment.

Bye! Lovely talking shit to y’all.

(BTW when do we get our royalties for the feud?)

SoCalGary

Chas, or Charlie as the blokes down under like to call you, your interview on Surf Splendor was great, but the boys on Ain’t That Swell are the best. I love their podcast and I laugh my ass off. But, I can’t understand half the shit they are saying with their Aussie twang and down under terms . Is there an urban dictionary for Aussie slang?

Chas Smith

Oh I love Ain’t That Swell…. and commiserate! It took me a good four years to understand Derek Rielly.

Wiggolly's Paddling Style

Morgan Williamson said you have a receder but I reckon it’s just a mature hairline mate. You’ll be fine. Morgan bums dogs.

QuadThrusterSetup

oi Chas ya off ya fuckin dial cunt

Abscessed Llama

you should read Wiggolly’s P. Style’s comments they may help.

For starters, Bums = Screws in arse!

Jocks

The Inertia = Not even surfers really. The worst

Stab = Trying to make money from it all, while trying hard (poorly) not to be seen doing that

Coastalwatch = some good articles , but mainly for kooks. Doherty writes some great shit. Weak Wrap is good absurd fun

Magicweed = just based on their Instagram, seem focused on busting every secret spot

channelbottom

The MS app forecast are way more accurate than Coastalsnatch (at least round my way), and I have to go log in to turn the fucking CW emails off, bastards.

NC’s stuff is always worth a read if not behind a paywall.

Jocks

Agree Nick’s writings are worth it

Swellnet still the best for forecast imo
At least in my neck of woods 🙂

Lemon Next to the Pie

Is it weird to anyone else that the discussion is about honesty of opinions in any type of journalism?

Says so much about any ‘industry’ that relies so much on sycophantic regurgitation of business model visions…

bitter guy

like financial advisors aren’t baby birds? name an industry where smelling your own farts isn’t celebrated?

Lemon Next to the Pie

As a Postie, my farts just blow away in the wind…

bitter guy

Rosy loves it

Lemon Next to the Pie

Doesn’t she like ‘poofs of spit’?

Otto

Chas teaching MC how to throw journalistic grenades https://uploads.disquscdn.c…

Jen See

this is so genius. i’m sorta mesmerized by it actually!

Chas Smith

Hahahaha!

Michael Ciaramella

This is my favorite thing. I’ve watched 20x and still laugh!


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