Bobby Martinez
"Tennis has soul," says Bobby Martinez.

Bobby’s Tennis Tour Dream Comes True!

The template for the WSL comes straight from the ATP. Who knew? Bobby knew!

I thought it was common knowledge that the WSL is built on the blueprint of the Association of Tennis Professionals (ATP). The contest/tournament calendar, the ranking system, the contest format and now the exhibition extras – all the same as the ATP.

It makes sense, therefore, that professional surfing’s owner has turned the reigns over to Sophie Goldschmidt with her four years experience as a vice-president at the WTA (Women’s Tennis Association).

It ain’t sexy but it ain’t crazy, if you dig.

Listen. If you were a minnow sport like surfing and looking to a big brother for advice, tennis makes sense. Count the similarities: an individual sport, competitors from a wide variety of nations, tournaments scattered around the world. And tennis has provided household names and reaped fortunes for over half a century.

But Tennis is a rich man’s game. The outfits, the tradition, the silence. That ain’t surf or it at least it wasn’t.

And isn’t tennis really about the four grand slams? Does anyone actually tune in for anything else?

Tennis certainly doesn’t have super-star names who don’t compete but attract fabulous salaries and starry eyes for knocking the ball around the practise court. There’s no Dane Reynolds, no Creed McTaggart, no Craig Anderson. And judging from tennis’s moves trying to shorten and re-jig the format over the past few years, you know they’re having a golf-type issue in trying to appeal to the new generation.

If we look purely from a governing body’s format, what has the WSL borrowed?

1. Tournament Structure – Tennis has the Challenger Tour and the World Tour. Surfing has the Qualification Series and Championship Tour. Both formats allow competitors to earn points through lower events and use these points to qualify for higher-rated events.

2. Tournament Funding – The level of an ATP event (points available), all depends on the prizemoney offered, and as a result the more funded to the governing body. Want to stage the ATP1000 in your crummy little neighbourhood, just cough up the cash and it’s yours. Surfing is the same game. Fork out the money and you can have a QS10,000 at your local break.

3. Hopman Cup / Founders Cup – Did anyone else notice that Sophie’s first big splash, The Founders Cup, takes its colours from the Hopman Cup? International all-team tournament with mixed gender teams? Hopman.

4. Nitto ATP Finals / WSL Mentawaii Finals – The WSL will introduce a finals series to finish of the year in 2019. When this was announced everyone’s eyes went to a NBA/NFL/MLB finals format thinking those jocks were the inspiration. It was actually tennis that has had a finals format for years now. With an Emirates-sponsored ATP Race to London points ladder.

What does the future hold? Tennis has pushed towards indoor single day/night exhibitions to lure millennials in with loud music, flashy lights and a shorter time frame, the Laver Cup for example.

What’s surfing got? Pools, pools, pools.

And another similarity, to quote Billie Jean King, “Tennis is a perfect combination of violent action taking place in an atmosphere of total tranquility.”

Oh the similarities are just eerie!

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Hikaru Ichijyo
Hikaru Ichijyo
8 years ago

Must complete the Bobby Martinez Experience:

I am surprised, he would be a perfect candidate for interviewing as Bobby Martinez calls out pro surfing like beachgrit calls out Smurfing, BackS7*B, and 1N31214

But maybe not as fun its because if you push the MBM buttons too far he will invoke NWA, Compton, and ThugLife and hit back.

Still though, he gets respect for calling out and dropping explicit lyrics and surfing good when he’s into surfing.

Meet the dawgs of the dog house:

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

Boards:

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

signature boards:

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

Boxing

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

Great Dane

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

Surf related:

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

More surfboards
https://www.youtube.com/wat…

Jazzy P
Jazzy P
8 years ago

Can’t we combine all that magic in a wave pool experience? Kelly can bring the ayahuasca… now that’s some thing to pay $9’500 for!

Ghostface Braddah
Ghostface Braddah
8 years ago

And SNEAKERS.

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago

Bobby’s eyes are way too close together for my comfort.

Strider's Gobble Neck
Strider's Gobble Neck
8 years ago

Didn’t really read any of it. All I know is Bobby retired at half the age of literally anyone with job he still bitches about.

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
8 years ago

Has tennis got a world champion Jazzy P?

Why no. No it doesn’t.

Has pro surfing existed in more or less its current form since long before the coming of the WSL? Holy fuck! Yes! Yes it has.

Did PT, Kanga and co draw much of their inspiration for a world rankings system and tour from a book named “World Class”, which was written in the early 1970s about the formative years of the world tennis pro tour?

Yes!! Yes they did!

Well fuck me running eh.

I laughed at Bobby’s rant seven years ago or so, but I also thought, “what the fuck do you think you got yourself involved with in the first place cobber, a dance party?”

Eddie Haiku
Eddie Haiku
8 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

But the critical detail you fail to include is that the WSL developed the unique concept of the leader wearing a yellow jersey. Oh. Yep. Damn those Frenchies.

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago
Reply to  Eddie Haiku

They still have a chance to combine the two, more synergistically, with pedal-board championships.

Fuck yeah. Don’t tell me that idea doesn’t get you pumping.

Eddie Haiku
Eddie Haiku
8 years ago
Reply to  channelbottom

I’m rock hard just thinking about it! Laird Armstrong?

Otto
Otto
8 years ago
Reply to  Eddie Haiku

Throw in some hobby horse for good measure.
https://youtu.be/txcwD4p9Wlo

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Now you’re just making fun of things!!! This is a serious bidness.

Otto
Otto
8 years ago
Reply to  channelbottom

Pro surfers tend to do best in competition when they make fun of this thing. When they don’t forget to have fun. Like with Julian today. His reaction after that Final barrel was fun focused through the haze of serious bidness and serious new dad distractions. When they make n’ fake it serious, they’re lying to themselves and it shows in their surfing. When surfing falls off its serious horse, it outta get back on its hobby horse and have fun. Make fun of it. Exactly.

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago
Reply to  Otto
Jazzy P
Jazzy P
8 years ago
Reply to  Nick Carroll

Well Señor Carroll tennis does indeed have a world champion, it’s decided each year at the annual ATP Finals Series and has been since 1970… but it just doesn’t have the pizzaz as the Grand Slam winners or the gala that our own surfing World Champ attracts each year – but the Tennis World Champion each year pockets a hell of a prize, US$8m. The new additions of the Founders Cup & Final Series for the WSL are the two check-points that really prompted this article and it illustrates the copycat direction of our governing body…. I actually kind of like the formats but throwing the flag anyway…

I just think that culturally surfing is quite far from Tennis, and perhaps the ‘cultural safety’ that the WSL is moving towards borrows more queues from Tennis, than it does say from the X Games or Dew Tour that are more relevant to surf culture and the audience. Perhaps that was Bobby’s axe to grind as well but the poor old chap just couldn’t express himself properly?

But please don’t get me wrong, I’m a capitalist at heart and want to see surfing grow and reap fortunes.. just maybe needs a little fine tuning and insemination of youth to get there

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
8 years ago
Reply to  Jazzy P

I think those X Games Dew Tour things are what you do when you’re a shitty “yewww!” sport. To me surfing is kind of a classical thing, it has very deep roots in pre-modern times, and has always wrestled a bit with its identity in the modern world — the only thing that really rings true about it is that idea of freedom, of daring to cast aside a normal life in pursuit of waves. But my point was that pro surfing has been modelling itself on pro tennis since when the world tour rankings began and one-on-one competition was introduced. It’s not a WSL idea at all; they’re just trying to take it to another level by inventing a tennis court.

I do totally appreciate you though Jazzy P!

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
8 years ago

I couldn’t give a fuck about tennis (except for Fred Perry clothing), but I happened to find myself at the US Open once. And you know what? The food was incredible. Up the catering game, Soph.

Jazzy P
Jazzy P
8 years ago

The Quiky Pro was screaming for a tropical cocktail bar…. fuck Corona’s, give me a Mai Tai!

janeausten
janeausten
8 years ago
Reply to  Jazzy P

Am I the only one that finds the Corona “the ocean is my life etc” ads over earnest and depressing. Doesn’t make me want to buy their shit beer any more than before.

Trogan Fan
Trogan Fan
8 years ago

There’s a whole generation of kids who don’t know who Bobby even is. Is this website for old people?

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
8 years ago
Reply to  Trogan Fan

I’m old and I barely know him now.

Otto
Otto
8 years ago

Sophie: “Ladies, how about less butthole and more grunt/howl? This isn’t tennis. But could be!”
https://youtu.be/J0N1HitvAtQ

Jazzy P
Jazzy P
8 years ago
Reply to  Otto

Mic ’em up!! Surf grunting would be fantastic! Someone should at the very least should create a YouTube mock up of it.

m0rt
m0rt
8 years ago
Reply to  Jazzy P

Leave it with me

Jazzy P
Jazzy P
8 years ago
Reply to  m0rt

Oh please do!!!

m0rt
m0rt
8 years ago
Reply to  Jazzy P

For your viewing pleasure

https://youtu.be/UWVISetqvrE

Jazzy P
Jazzy P
8 years ago
Reply to  m0rt

Too good!!

Otto
Otto
8 years ago
Reply to  m0rt

Ha!

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago
Reply to  m0rt

You’ve nailed it.

Hikaru Ichijyo
Hikaru Ichijyo
8 years ago
Reply to  m0rt

lulz! fun times!

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
8 years ago

If you want a sport with no sponsorships or mainstream influence take up fruitbooting. You will be the antichrist of all your local skateparks and put fear in the hearts of children.

Eddie Haiku
Eddie Haiku
8 years ago

At least in Australia you can now legally marry your rollerblading partner.

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
8 years ago
Reply to  Eddie Haiku

How good is the video of the bloke doing the leap of faith in rollerblades? His knees crumple like a fucken accordion. If I was the ambo I would’ve driven around the block 30 times before going to the rescue.

Eddie Haiku
Eddie Haiku
8 years ago

Always a top idea to land on the flats wearing bindings.

Poulet
Poulet
8 years ago

Just had to google that and got sucked into a YouTube session of ankle pain…there’s so many dumb fuckers trying it!

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
8 years ago

Isn’t that scootering now? Even inline nerds hate scooters.

bitter guy
bitter guy
8 years ago

tough one, think that’s like SUP vs goatboating

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
8 years ago

I feel sorry for scooterers. Man they suck.

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
8 years ago

Bobby is not an intelligent man by any means but he was absolutely right about this shit.

Karl Von Fanningstadt
Karl Von Fanningstadt
8 years ago

Really? Well no shit…

Eddie Haiku
Eddie Haiku
8 years ago

Pipeline WAS Wimbledon.


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