Chris Cote and Kaipo Guerrero analyse Filipe's ten-pointer in Brazil…
A short while ago, the Brazilian Filipe Toledo scored a raft of perfect tens with what the commentator Chris Cote just described to me as “an upside-down, fifteen, sixteen feet across, four or five feet above the lip, fully inverted, 540 with a perfect landing. That was as snowboard as surfing gets.”
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Cote, who is a guest commentator in Rio although his terrific performance there and at the Founders Cup suggests he will be joining the roster full-time, was enjoying a hamburger dinner in Rio with Kaipo Guerrero when asked to discuss the manoeuvre.
He coils it up like a cobra and you know he’s going to strike and you know it’s going to be crazy. You become speechless even as he winds up. You have no choice but to get excited. The electricity flows.”
“I was in the booth with Pottz and (Brazilian tour rookie) Jesse Mendes at the time. And it freaked everybody out. One thing about Filipe that’s incredible is the way he telegraphs his airs. He coils it up like a cobra and you know he’s going to strike and you know it’s going to be crazy. You become speechless even as he winds up. You have no choice but to get excited. The electricity flows.”
I suggest to Cote that the air could’ve been a career-ender given his brutal on-the-flats landing. Filipe could’ve buckled both legs.
“Oh yeah, but he doesn’t think like that. He doesn’t think he’s going to fall. The way that he landed in the flats it equates to a skater doing a trick down fifteen stairs. It’s about the same distance. There’s a famous skate spot called El Toro, twenty something stairs, and it became the benchmark of landing a skate trick. People are always breaking boards and their ankles. With Filipe, you gotta look at how high he was above the wave. You figure it’s a four or six-foot wave, he was four or six feet above that wave, that’s at least twelve feet he’s coming from to the flats. That in itself is crazy. He’s almost upside down and he lands it. It’s like a snowboarder landing in the flats in a half pipe. And there was no bobble. It didn’t affect him. He had the perfect spring right when he landed.”
How was the reaction in the commentary booth?
“Jesse had to cough and he looked down right when it happened and he looked up and asked, ‘What just happened?’ He went silent too, but again, it’s Filipe so it’s not surprising to anybody when he does something like that. It’s shocking in the moment but it’s not surprising.”
“That wave will solve any discussion about the scale being set to the mid-range,” says Cote. “It was an easy ten across the board, there was maybe one nine-nine, but the perfect ten score came a second or two after he landed it.”
Nearby Cote, and also eating dinner, are the WSL judges.
“That wave will solve any discussion about the scale being set to the mid-range,” says Cote. “It was an easy ten across the board, there was maybe one nine-nine, but the perfect ten score came a second or two after he landed it.”
How does it compare to Filipe’s ten in the pool?
“Oh I mean, twice as high, twice as far and the wave was twice as big. Until they can make pools six feet there’s no comparison although those guys will figure it out.”
And compared to his backside huck against John John in France two years ago?
“Today’s air was more controlled and cleaner,” says Cote. “That was a silent sniper shot. This is the air of the year on tour.”
In the background, Kaipo hollers that Seth Moniz’s air at Waco is better. Does he say ‘mo bettah?’ I’m unsure.
I ask Kaipo to analyse. “It’s like comparing grass court over a clay court. It’s different. We don’t know how many attempts Seth needed to make his air. We do know how many Filipe made. One. There it is.”
And the ambience on the beach?
“Everyone jumped out of their seats in the competitor’s area. On the beach, men, women, children, grandpas, aunties, everyone jumped up.”
What’s most interesting about the air is Filipe had already won the heat. This was a little theatre for the crowd.
“You gotta put everything in context,” says Kaipo. “Whether it’s a get-a-score air or a victory-lap air. There’s a difference mentally between the get-a-score air and the victory-lap air. A victory lap allows you free your mind.”
Still, says Cote, “John John is the best in the air, hands down.”
Fuck Brazil and its surfers. They and the WSL do a big cunt act and pull out of Margarets (only to hand the remainder of the contest to Indo), we get slops with flounders cup, and now they people are jacking off with Brazil!. I am not going to watch & listen to Cote & Pottz jizz onto their microphones over a flip. Yeah, I will never be able to do one, but the WSL is turning me off giving 2 shits. Maybe pornhub will start doing some surfing porn, which will be tingle the cockles.
Big air yes, 10? No. I still don’t see how single airs should be 10. Every heat is scored in its own context. Filepe pumps past 3-4 sections, does one air and gets 10. There is nothing stopping him from doing the exact same air on the next wave but with 1-3 quality turns before it. That to me is like saying the turns are worthless.
Speaking of snowboarding, the pipe is 21-24 feet deep and they go 15 feet+ out. Thats 36 feet to flat on the low end. If someone did set up airs on every wall just to go extra big on the last hit what would they score?
Well, Cote is an idiot too, so I dunno how to feel.
just caught up with the oy highlights. all around stoke on Flip’s air. except for Gabby, who was stonefaced.
best highlight for me was at the end of the women’s final , commentator ’89 world champ said
“and Stephanie Gilmore finally breaks the Hoodoo Guru”. classic.
what would Dave Faulkner say?
Umgawa
Miss Freelove of ’69!
like wow, wipeout!
Leilani!!!!
it must be so Bittersweet!
I laughed out loud when I saw his cold mug.
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perfectly juxtaposed with Seabass’ stoke https://uploads.disquscdn.c…
thats why one is a world champignom and the other one is a cruiser …..
the same kind of mindset that make a guy like taj never became a world champignom
you can get a 10 for an air now imagine that. this contest leageue is a disaster i tried watching but the surfers have no style and it is hurting my eyes
Horribly off topic, but Im traveling a lot in the next few months and need some good reads. Suggestions plees.
Reeds, here: https://www.dusk.com.au/hom…
A point against ND
Wednesday’s with Bob & Cocaine, a love story spring to mind…
Thanks for contributing to my illlliteracy Mr. all caps.
I think I own the entire BG catalog, or was it stab’s?
hi what do you like?
I have been enjoying biographies lately; Cleese, Richards, Garrett. But am pretty open.
hmm biographies. i think i got nothing on that, unfortunately.
Non-bios: Graham Greene, Hunter Thompson are good for traveling, I think. Cormac McCarthy if you can stand Americans and like to be depressed.
Bios: The William Finnegan book is mostly good. Anything by Doris Kearns Goodwin (again, if you can tolerate Americans). Our Band Could Be Your Life by Michael Azerrad if you like independent music.
I suffer Americans gladly.
Then you may like Americans suffering in Cormac McCarthy novels.
springsteen’s memoir is great, and i’m not even a fan of his music. same with patti smith’s “just kids”. james salter’s book “Burning the Days” is epic.
finnegan’s book is great but it made me feel like a loser by comparison so can’t recommend.
Why not go out on a limb and get a few of Barry Lopez’s wonderful books on encountering the natural world? He’s a great writer and observer and also happens to be the son of Adrian Loppez who used to publish Surfing magazine in NYC. Barry’s stories of Alaska are just marvellous.
Thanks Nick. I’m gonna purchase each book recommended on this thread, glad I asked.
You are very brave asking that question here.
welp!
Sapiens. A brief history of humankind. I forgot who wrote it
Yuval Harari
Oh I love answering, what should I read questions. Inshallah by Oriana Fallaci will get your head whirring. Italian soldiers during the Lebanese Civil War. Love, lust, death etc.
I’m off to the book store! click.
anything by John Grisham, that guy is going to be big one day.
Invisible Cities- Calvino
Oh godddddd Calvino. If on a winter’s night! I love Calvino. He’s a writer I wish I’d never read so I could read for the first time again.
Oh also! Geoff Dyer has a very fun tribute/riff on Invisible Cities — The Search. Recommend.
I’d like to see a career ending air or barrel or whatever. Not so much to end the person’s career (there are exceptions) but just to know that they are going for it, no holding back. That’s what we want to see right. Fuck safe surfing.
doesn’t matter cuz felipe did it and cote said it!
that was a ten but looks like judges lost their sack on the scoring scale they set on the Aus leg.
Watch Filipe’s 8.33 from earlier that heat. 2 lame turns and two mistimed hits.
Should have been a high five or low 6 if judges had bottle.
they’ve been noticeably more generous than the aus events, for reals.
I’m sceptical, I think they were worded up before Lemoore, maybe very subtly that this was no place to make the worlds best look mediocre.
Oh I definitely assumed the scale was intentionally juiced at Lemoore to add thrills and stuff. But I figured it would reset in Rio. It seems somewhere in between what it was at the pool and Australia.
*skeptical… you brazilian?
They didn’t need low scores to look mediocre. That fucking wave.
Did you guys at B.G. decide to journalistically boycott the Brazil Event during the year it was pumping? Personally, I always liked the Rio comp; with the hollow punchy beachbreaks Not every comp needs to be a reef pass or point. It was often better than 2 foot Snapper. Didn’t JJF win it twice?
I think there is a problem with the time zones.
This is why I respect you, Steve. Unlike that Nick Carrolll poof.
Learn to paddle, bro
I’m fucken shit at that ay.
but you have a great backside attack.
My wife doesn’t really appreciate my backside attacks.
thats because you are not the prince of Ubatuba. you don’t grow up working in the stock room of your mums sex shop without learning a thing or two about attacking a backside.
still a lot of 10-12 point heat wins going down, which looks boring as fuck if you are just checking scores. like seeing 4-2 score for a NRL game doest tell you there six blokes sent off, two blown knees and a female streaker.
mediocre scores suggests mediocre surfing and they realise its going to be hard to sell it to the masses. although soccer doesn’t seem to have a problem marketing 0-0 score-lines as exciting
So fun! I like it when surfing is fun.
So good.
But if anyone wants to argue about the degrees of rotation, I have some free time this afternoon.
Oh boy.
It was a 470.
That was a 420, bro.
All I know is I need about tree fiddy.
The angle of the nose of his board while making contact with the lip was essentially the same angle of his nose when he landed, making it one full rotation. What is there to argue?
Since I was 90% kidding, I don’t wanna get into it. But the other 10% agrees with you completely.
You sir, are 100% awesome.
I just don’t understand, how is that anything more than a 360? I just don’t understand how there is an argument there.
I’m jaded as shit on “airs” but that was fucking impressive. If they were all like that, I’d be game.
Is no one going to talk about how Bricknell sounds like Makua Rothman with an Australian accent
He’s a Saffer – with a thin Aussie veneer on top.
“Flippy, Flippy, Flippy the bush dolphin..”
I might have my theme tunes muddled.
Who believes in doing good and doing right? Flipper!
“He’s a complicated man but no one understands him but his woman (Flipper)”
Yeah we tease him a lot ’cause we got him on the spot, Flipper
“This is Bill Cosby coming at cha with music and fun
If you’re not careful, you may learn something before it’s done!
Hey, hey, hey! Flipper!”