Just because a handful of women in a niche sport are prepared to weaponise their gender in the interests of getting what they want, it doesn’t mean it’s good for all women.
Recently, in the New York Times Magazine, Daniel Duane wrote a piece called “The Fight for Gender Equality in One of the Most Dangerous Sports on Earth”.
In the piece Duane referenced an old post I had written for The Inertia called “Women’s Big Wave Surfing has a Parity Paradox Worth Re-thinking”. The gist of the piece – which I stand by – is that the women’s Pe’ahi event was objectively poor. And despite the fact that it was spun across all media outlets as a giant leap for womenkind, the reality was that it was a step backwards.
As a spectacle the competition was a failure.
Only four of the 12 women caught waves, and two of those were hospitalised. In my view, the competition served as a stark reminder that there is physiological barrier precluding some people –regardless of gender – from big-wave paddle surfing. It’s equivalent to the UFC throwing Amanda Nunes into the ring with TJ Dillashaw in the name of gender equality.
I mean, Nunes is a great fighter, I’m sure she’d hold her own against lots of men, but – to employ the vernacular of the UFC fan – TJ Dillashaw would fuck her up. Pitting men directly against women is not parity.
It’s just biologically unfair.
The reference used by Duane had none of this context, of course:
‘The Inertia, a popular adventure-sports website, ran an opinion piece by a male surf journalist named J.P. Currie, who called the contest an “abject failure” and wrote: “I don’t see women achieving equality. I see women striving for masculinity.”’
I believe the quote, which lit my maleness like a flare, was used to exemplify an atypical attitude of men. Silly women, thinking they can do what we men do. Stop trying to be like us.
But I think my argument is more nuanced than that.
I grew up in a male dominated household. I’m one of four boys and my dad spent most weeks at sea. My mum is one of the toughest people I know. She held it all together. She did everything for the fishing boat bar hauling in the nets. She made sure the bills were paid, the house and boat were stocked with food every week, and she cooked and cleaned and gardened and busied everywhere. All while caring for us full time and clearing up after our mistakes, and our fights, and our tantrums, and our boisterousness.
She shouldered the embarrassment when my twin brothers got drunk on shoplifted booze and set a local field on fire. She remained calm when my older brother went missing and left only a neat pile of clothes at the end of the pier.
She spoke to me with quiet serenity when my teenage rage sent me through a plate glass window at school. And she responded with shocked but silent decorum when, late one evening, intending to confront my younger brother about some hash she discovered, found him having a standing wank in the living room, with the Masters golf on the telly.
At which point he uttered the now immortal words, “Fuck off, mum!”
She even dealt with the ignominy of driving home from church one Christmas Eve, after taking gran to the midnight service, and realising that a commotion outside the pub was caused by her two youngest sons, battering fuck out of each other while every punter in the pub watched and cheered, and I refereed. That was a tense Christmas dinner.
For this and so much more, my mum’s a straight hero. Most of all for her strength, her ability to endure.
My mum’s world is a microcosm of society. Women are often expected to fit in with, or tolerate, maleness. We live in a world that has been shaped by one gender. Yet we’re different, men and women.
I know I’m not supposed to say that publicly, but it’s true.
I teach kids, I see the differences. Boys are allowed time to fail, to find their feet, to fuck about. Girls need to be serious a lot sooner. They’re terrified of failure. They are more harshly judged. Women, young girls, are pressured into being something. It’s a world of extremes, there’s little middle ground. They’re either airhead YouTubers and Instagram models or they’re tough bitches, sticking it to the patriarchy.
The way I see it, in a women’s world, they’re seldom left to just be.
So in surfing, should we be pushing for women to compete alongside the men? I wonder how many women among the entrants for the Pe’ahi comp actually wanted to paddle out at Jaws for the first time, in front of the world.
Duane’s piece gave a brief history of the Committee for Equity in Women’s Surfing, an activist group headed by big wave surfer Bianca Valenti. It strongly inferred that the WSL decision to close the gender pay gap was a direct result of the activities of this group.
There’s an argument to say that women don’t deserve equal pay in surfing. An argument allegedly backed by Sophie Goldschmidt when she called the pressures from Valenti’s group “abuse of the #metoo movement”. (A statement she later denied.)
Just because a handful of women in a niche sport are prepared to weaponise their gender in the interests of getting what they want, it doesn’t mean it’s good for all women.
Surfing is backwards. It’s discriminatory. It is not egalitarian.
Most line-ups in the world are presided over by aggressive, macho cultures. We are guilty of the over-sexualisation of women. There is absolutely a balance that needs to be redressed.
But pretending women’s surfing is on the same level as men’s is not only disingenuous, it just serves to put even more pressure on all women to be more like men. Think of the language we use, why should we revere only the women who “charge”? Isn’t that just another form of discrimination based on physicality?
Equality is not the admiration of a small handful of women willing to pit themselves against men. We’re flying in the face of physiological fact, and that’s not progress.
I’d guess this viewpoint will be received as something akin to Hitler’s Mutterkreuz. But it’s not meant to sound like a pat on the head. And I’m sure it’s completely outrageous to accept my views on the subject of women’s liberty, or those of any other man.
But when we preclude certain people from talking about certain things conversation becomes stunted. Gender politics affect everyone.
And it should be perfectly fine to state that there are clear differences between men and women, and neither should feel the need to deny or fight that, in surfing or otherwise.
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Allowing boys time to fail, to find their feet, to fuck about, while expecting girls to be serious a lot sooner, being terrified of failure and being more harshly judged must be some sort of US thing. Never in the nearly six decades I’ve been alive have I ever seen boys given more leeway than girls when it comes to behaviour. Yes, I know there are expressions like boys will be boys. However the reality is that boys generally faced much harsher treatment both physically and verbally, than girls ever did. And where rigid roles for the sexes existed they were at least as much so for boys as for girls. Boys may not have acted like they were terrified of failure, but that is hardly surprising considering they weren’t allowed to show any kind of vulnerability. They were scared though and they knew too that invariably they’d face severe punishment for showing they were scared and for failing. Boys are also pressured into being something, at least as much as girls.
From what I’ve witnessed over the last couple of decades I’d say that places like schools have now long been places that strongly favour girls in all respects. They’re usually less likely to be disruptive and less likely to struggle with learning, so teachers are prone to focussing on the girls.
This is why boys are getting left behind in education. The sort of play that is often favoured by boys is also now considered bad.
Again maybe it is some sort of US cultural thing that women and girls are either airheads or tough.
I’m all for women only sports where they are required, but this makes no sense to me. Surfing? What is the difference between male and female strength compared to the infinite power of the OCEAN?
I’m sorry but if women can’t surf big waves it’s probably because as individuals they need more practice and the men have been doing it longer. I don’t believe for one second women can’t do it. Surfing is an endurance and balance sport far more than strength, and women crush it at endurance events especially against Mother Nature. Look at the lady who swam from Cuba to Florida. No man in history has gone that far.
Separating male and female surfing makes as much sense as segregating chess or pool. None.
If you don’t understand that surfing requires anaerobic muscle use and explosive power, do you actually even surf? Endurance exercise includes things like long distance swimming at a steady pace or a long distance marathon. Getting on a wave, a late take off, getting in the sweet spot, a fast pop up which is very similar to a really fast push up- all of these things are anaerobic exercise requiring type 2 muscle fibers. Men have significantly greater amounts of type 2 muscle than women, especially in the upper body. Of course individual differences between women exist, some women are going to have more natural advantage than others, but sex differences are consistent and reliable. Men also have much larger hearts, lungs, better blood oxygen supply, thicker bones, the list goes on. Women who can and want to compete in big waves should be given the option, but I agree with OP, an event where women get injured and mostly don’t catch anything shouldn’t be hailed a success
Imagine being someone like JP Currie (or Trump/Farage/K Hopkins). When the pah you’ve taken for employment knowingly makes anyone decent think you’re a total C*nt.
Do you A) console yourself thinking a bunch of neanderthal bogans agree with you? B) are you super thick skinned (a c*nt) or C) also a neanderthal bogan with the worldly opinions of a 6th grader in Texas.
if you go into a sacramento biker bar and dont get beaten up, you’re a cunt
How come every time there is a war draft, forcing men to die miserably, the chicks all disappear?
How about some pow camp torture room gender equity? Not so much, eh. Gonna pass on that deal, right.
Ha ha well not everyone gets a crack at that quiver, so far it’s been a) Pottz and b) you.
Yeah I guess. I have always found the ocean to be excellent at kicking people out of itself when necessary, and that money does not make a shit load of difference to it. Like you find your level with it, and it’s great if/when people help you with that in a personal way, but it’s not for someone who’s never met you and knows almost nothing about the Realm to be making the call on your involvement.
New handle bum acid? You do seem very familiar…
… suggest ‘The Quest’ by Daniel Yergin if you’re genuinely concerned about Global Warming / Climate Change… which seems obvious.
Alternatively, I’ll leave it to Doug Stanhope to extrapolate on the ‘extreme left’ …
I don’t do the twitter thing mate.
… what are you implying regarding said ‘conservative groups’ and ‘think tanks’?
(I’m firmly ‘apolitical’ – just to save you typing a vitriolic personal reply)
… and yet you choose to reside behind an avatar on this forum.
Also, there’s also a million self-help books written by 100% grifting fraudsters … fck! most (or all) religious dogma fits neatly into this category.
He’s not a climate change ‘denier’ – listen considerately to the man.
He simply question’s the motivation(s) behind the arguments for and against – a mantra he emphasises when asked (read: baited) to draw-the-line on numerous topics… the fella is way too intelligent to align himself with specific dogma – political, religious … etc etc et al.
I err on the side Climate Change – as the direct result of human intervention – is genuine. However, I also view CC as yet ANOTHER mechanism of control – a means of manufacturing consent for the implementation of a new globalised Taxation regime – or, choose your favourite conspiratorial nefarious agenda …
but none of this means teak to the poor/starving/disenfranchised.
https://youtu.be/v7dnGWB8l0s,
I’m still not understanding where you stand on the issue but I also realise the complexities.
I’ll will try,
She liked it, yay!
love the way you talk
Come on, little troll, you can do better than that! Seriously, I had high hopes for you.
She went to see Manpower, the male stripping mob last nite.
So I’m all fucked up this morning.
I asked a simple question and you went ballistic. My life “must be hideous”?? Doesn’t even make sense where you pulled that from, typical trolling stuff. I’m gonna employ a time-tested tactic, which i used in California, when i walked past an old-ass foaming junk yard dog, I’m gonna keep walking, while i shake off the woof-woof, arf-arf, and ruff-ruff of that wild ass dog.
I feel like I’m on fox news, being shouted at by an impervious blonde. I guess those are your “thoughts,” “precisely” enunciated, i.e., shout, insult. As your “assumed” leader would say: Sad.
you dont think women should have the opportunity to surf big waves?
I’m going to enjoy you.