And WSL CEO accused of turning child surfers into monsters as they emulate heroes storming judging towers!
During the taping of an episode of Ain’t That Swell at Torquay during the Bells Beach event two months back, Swellians welcomed WSL CEO Erik Logan with a volley of boos.
It’s to the man’s credit he faced the hostile crowd and won ‘em over by shutting down Mick Fanning, who’d joined the pile-on by telling Logan he wasn’t into the mid-tour cut, with the withering coup de grâce, “I think Barron (Mamiya) would disagree with that, he seems to be doing fine.”
Now, Logan, an attractive fifty-ish man who adopted the “sexy cocaine cowboy” look ten months ago to much critical acclaim, as well as imitation, has faced his toughest critics yet, the podcasting duo of Jimmy Miles and Cahill Bell Warren.
On the latest episode of their Lipped podcast, Miles and Bell Warren walk Logan into corners hither and yon.
Bell Warren complains of children attacking judge in junior events because Logan let Italo get away with it and, well, what else are they gonna do but emulate their heroes?
“I’m going to have more people storming tents because of you celebrating it!”
The combativeness continues.
Miles is opposed to the idea of running Finals Day at Lowers for a second year running, positing it’s about clicks rather than crowning a worthy world champion.
Bell Warren talks of surfers doing “cutbacks to win a world title” and of being “put to sleep” by the latest event in Brazil.
Logan fares well in the exchanges until this wild admission,
“No one is walking into the final five. The five surfers who make it are tested time and time and time again. We’re sitting here, watching Saquarema right now and for you it might’ve put you to sleep, but the twenty thousand fans on the beach didn’t have a problem with it…”
Pause.
“Look, to be fair, (people say), hey, why don’t you just do it at Pipe? If I put it at Pipe, I can’t do the women there. They just haven’t had enough time.”
Moana Jones Wong, you listening?
The biggest crowds, on the best beaches! That’s what the people want to see!
What’s routine for men (airs, big waves, barrels) is miraculous for women.
The worst male pro surfer is better than the best female pro surfer.
Pause. Contemplate both of those sentences.
Remember when Carissa pulled that air in Australia? The commentators, most embarrassingly, spoke of it as a miraculous event. And rightly so. For female surfing, it was miraculous.
The inferiority of female surfing is shocking. It’s worse than the WNBA relative to the NBA. That’s bad. Really bad.
But the WSL won’t get really real about this. They say it’s a matter of insufficient time and experience for the women. No. It’s a matter of innate, superior talent and strength in men.
How refreshing it would be if the WSL would just be truthful about this. Instead, they lie to us and push equality. How monstrous it is that the women now receive equal pay, yet they don’t take equal risks, and they definitely don’t generate equal revenue.
The female tour is entirely parasitic on the male tour. It can’t exist without attaching itself to the male tour and sucking the life out of every event with vastly inferior female surfing forced upon us.
Moreover, as an attorney I’m waiting for the day when multiple women are seriously injured or killed at Tahiti and/or Pipe. (Unfortunately, it will indeed take multiple such incidences before the WSL wakes up). Lawsuits, including wrongful death lawsuits, will then devastate the WSL. The waivers the women sign won’t hold up in court.
Clearly, the worst male pro surfer should identify as a woman, join the female tour, and then proceed to win every competition!
Ketchup and/or horseradish is/are vegetables.
I don’t get these pro surfers scared of big waves. I get scared in big waves but Only thing I worry about is drowning because of my fitness levels. If u got the time to get fucking fit as fuck what u gotta worry about? Hitting the reef yeah but fuck come on now.
Unfortunately for MJW,she needed decent back up to make a case for women’s surfing to continue at Pipe,but virtually none was to be found.
I have a better idea , hold a open day any female can enter winner takes the title n
Have it during the masters and not on a lay day or between swells it goes down on a day that you would also send out the males.
Lets see how many of the female CT turn up.
oh FFS , getting Mick/Cahill and Jimmy to go shallow with Eric L , is like sending blokes to war with a choice between pillows or feather dusters as weapons!
Mick used the system wonderfully well, won a couple of World titles against much better surfers , still gets wildcards etc so is part of the system he criticizes….FFS cull the tour to 16 surfers , 2 day contest held in really good surf and entertain us!
Cahill should stop worrying about juniors storming the tower because their Brazilian role models do…..he should worry more about actually getting some kinda results from the people he coaches …as he gets paid to prepare and produce surfers for the Tour….maybe Brazilians storming the judging tower should become a coaching tool , to show passion/competitiveness and we might get a possible World Champ in the next decade or beyond as currently our little lambs get sent to the Slaughter house of a system that provides very little….but what a great gravy train for some, and for others well who really cares?
Lets get Nick Kyrios to coach our kids!!
Let an empassioned greased-tower-scaling become part of the scoring. If you really think you were hard done by, and you managed to climb the outside of the lubricated tower, with blueberry muffins as ammo, you get an extra .3 points for every time you hit Pritamo with the baked goods.
The worlds best surfers in the worlds best waves. Yeah killing it. Hopefully chopes will be massive and will seperate the men from the boys. The women can all have visa issues, injuries that just appear out of nowhere and heats with a 0 total. Tyler can be all woke and get an equal paycheque for hiding behind JMD butt cheeks.
Should run a mobile event in Mentawaiis! Just 5 surfers easy. Watch the old OP pro boat challenge.
Look, the women haven’t had enough time, so we need to give them more time. But until they have had more time then we won’t give them more time. But that’s what we’ll do. Equal prize money, equal time. The beach will be amazing. The best surfers, at the best beaches.
come down off your thrown
and leave that pubic mound alone
somebody must change
you are the reason
I’ve been waiting here so long
somebody must change
and in the end
I just can’t seem to find the time
I’m wasted and I
can’t find my way home…
Traffic
Is that the first honest thing he’s said?
Of course Pipe and Trestles are the only two waves you have to choose from. Amarite Elo? Ya fukin redneck kook.
They need to meet somewhere between the two. Cortes Bank should suffice.
But Tyler’s a Pipe Master just ask her, until it’s over 4 feet and then she is hiding under the bed. Sure I wouldn’t surf it but I am not a Pro Surfer demanding equality and getting equal pay. Take all the time in the world out there still won’t change the fact your chicken and paddle away from the peak. Signature layback
doesn’t want to do ‘drop the wallet’ turns…
I can’t help about the shape I’m in
I can’t sing, I ain’t pretty and my legs are thin
But don’t ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to
Oh well
Now, when I talked to God I knew he’d understand
He said, “Stick by my side and I’ll be your guiding hand
But don’t ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to”
oh well
don’t tell me about the shape I’m in
When Fleetwood Mac were good! RIP Peter Green.
also bob welch, danny kirwin, bobby weston…still love chrissy & john ….the best!
Elo is getting better with time
Realistic after learning the hard way
ELO’s quick-quip, word-salad, let’s-see-if-this-shallow-comeback-works, propaganda may have just finally blown up in his face. But will enough the Kool-aid community be able to see this outside of Beach Grit?…
it’s in the can…”Can Beach Grit”
Can Elo surf pipe?
While I agree the chicks aren’t ready to have a full comp at pipe, time has never been the issue. It’s commitment to heavy waves in general. The difference I see is the men chase big swells constantly to locations with some teeth and it makes them better surfers in bigger better waves. The chicks and Filipe decide not to take this path time and time again.
New gen of girls is doing that.
Not at Nias or Krui.
https://www.youtube.com/wat…
Are you trying to prove Bexy’s point for him by showing Ruby barrel dodge? Sophie gets a quick one but blows it.
You’ve never been barreled, have you?
Does it eat you up to see women with more spine than you?
They’re not out there, they complain.
They’re out there, they complain.
No, I’m all for it. But posting a video of a barrel dodge does nothing to help your point and only supports Bexy’s point.
It’s just the WSL chicks who suck.
There are plenty of women out there who could take on pipeline.
money? who needs it?
Let me live my life free and easy
Put a toothbrush in my hand
And let me be a travelling man
Cause I’m a road runner baby
I’m a road runner baby
Can’t stay in one place too long
I’m a road runner baby
One look at me and I’ll be gone
Well you can love me if you wanna
But I do declare
When I get restless
I’ve got to move somewhere
Because I’m a road runner baby
Anywhere is my home
And I love the life I live
And I’m going to live the life I love
A road runner baby
Don’t want no woman
To tie me down
Got to be free baby
To roam around
All my life I’ve been like this
And if you love me it’s your own risk
Cause when the dust hits my shoes
I’ve got the urge to move
Yes I’m a road runner baby
Got to keep moving on
Fleetwood Mac
I feel like we’ve seen a big jump in women putting time out at waves like pipe. Carissa Moore for instance had a great winter out there going both left and right (all of the other women really only ever go on their forehand at that wave…..even moana very rarely goes backdoor) and she’s also paddled out at teahupoo on big days. you see the women making more and more strike missions to teahupoo. back in the day there were a lot of “hard chargers” on the tour….back when they had waves like chopes on the schedule. they took that wave off the ladies had no incentive to surf it. you put them back on the schedule and already we have seen a really big difference in how they surf those waves. look at last years pipe appearance for the women. Carissa was the only one on that final day who got properly barreled. while the event this year may not have had the best completion rate compared to the men i still saw a huge difference between this year and last. with those waves being a permanent fixture on the schedule i honestly expect them to only continue to improve
And yet still radically inferior. Female pro surfing in relation to male pro surfing is even worse than the WNBA in relation to the NBA. That’s bad. That’s catastrophically bad.
And it’s not a matter of time and experience. It’s a matter of superior, vastly superior, talent and strength in the men.
Just think: the worst male pro surfer is better than the best female pro surfer.
The worst male pro surfer should therefore declare himself a woman, join the female tour, and then proceed to win every event.
Wow. Female surfing is truly abysmal.
20000 people on the beach in Brasil. No chance!
Does he mean real women, trans women or Toledos?