Never pay more than three hundred shekels for a new wetsuit again!
You might’ve noticed BeachGrit was enveloped by ads for the Independent Surf Co, an online-only wetsuit and accessories manufacturer, last week.
Indy is the newest player in the cut-price wetsuit game, alongside Need Essentials and to a lesser degree, the sub-four hundred dollar zipperless suits of NCHE.
The common thread among the three companies is that all the founders came staggering out of the Stalingrad-esque ruins of Big Surf Industry: Need‘s Ryan Scanlon a former senior VP of Global Products for Quiksilver, NCHE‘s Simon Barrett and Jarrad Howse from Billabong and O’Neill, and Independent Surf Co‘s founders Vin Ryan and Royce Leu from Billabong.
A caveat: Royce is an old pal of mine. He worked at Surfing Life with me back when I was sorting mail etc. Love the guy. Surf to the core etc.
So when I heard he was involved in a wetsuit start-up, well, you help a guy. I try the two mil, short-sleeved steamer. It works. Two hundred and fifty Australian dollars or thereabouts (prices are listed as ex-tax).
Ain’t it a good time to be alive.
Just as the big surf co’s complete their transition from surfer-owned companies to assets in a VC’s portfolio there arrives a raft of companies operating in bedrooms, front rooms and little boats (Ryan, Need) .
I threw a line out to Vin from Independent yesterday ’cause I wanted to find out how a little guy, without much capital, can create an accessories company.
His story goes like this:
Vin started at Billabong, or more precisely its accessories arm Thin Air, when he was a kid. This was back when Billabong made their suits in Australia. He’d graduated to the cutting room and was making the suits when the company went public and, shortly after, the manufacture of suits moved to China.
Vin evolved. He liaised with suppliers in China. Gave ’em the specs. Negotiated prices.
Then after 24 years with Billabong/Thin Air, as Billabong moved designers and managers to the US, Vin got the tap of the shoulder. Redundant.
Vin was paid the minimum, legal redundancy. A quarter of a century of loyalty don’t count for much on balance sheets.
“That’s big business,” says Vin.
So he starts Independent Surf Co. Wetsuits. Tail pads. Legropes. Three hundred, Thirty and Thirty dollars apiece.
His angle is making suits with features that you’d find on the big co’s six hundred and seven hundred dollar suits: mesh panels, S-seals, a thermal lining, those little tech details you don’t notice but you feel.
Vin, who is paying the bills working as a waterproofer on a building site, says being on a construction site has sharpened his sense of offering value to surfers.
“You see how hard the average guys work for their dollars, to be able to go away and afford all these high-priced items, wetsuits up to seven hundred dollars,” says Vin. “Instead we offer ’em for 270 bucks.”
Regarding his old masters Vin says,
“The thing that disappointed me when I was working at Billabong was a lot of these people running the show are focussed on these products that make more money, which is fair enough. But when you’re making a core product for surfers, that a surfer really needs, they don’t put the effort they should, for the price they charge. That’s where guys like us, who’ve been in it for so long, are prepared to give surfers a quality suit at half the price.”
I’ll give an honest appraisal.
I’ve never had a suit better than the Rip Curl Flash Bomb my hams currently inflate. But I got a little discount. Not free. Enough to make it a choice between what works best. And y’gotta give it to Rip Curl. They make a fine wetsuit.
But if you had to make a choice between paying three hundred or seven hundred?
Is the difference big enough?
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The wetsuits chapter of the surf industry seems to be the only thing moving in a favorable direction at this point in time. However, I’m now starting to find that it is seemingly becoming a saturated market rather quickly. Hyperflex, X-Terra, NEED, Independent, NCHE, Narval, Zion, Cheer, TRUE, etc. While I am a huge fan of the small guy starting something new and different, and I can only imagine how insanely difficult it is to carve one’s way into this market. In reality though, most of these companies will produce mediocre product at best. Not to say that won’t change, because it certainly will. How long will they be able to hang on though? Will the bigger companies follow the Vissla model and introduce competitive, cost- friendly wetsuits in the next 2 years? Is the KSWetsuit Company the next big thing?
kswetsuits have chia seeds sown in!
oh, and check out the japanese market. thousands of little local brands.
Just got Erebus 3/2 wetsuit, have to say it’s as good as my old Rip Curl and cheaper! Just great to see these independents having a crack at the big boys.. worth giving them a go. https://www.erebuswetsuits….
Oh, those big name manufacturers can be brutal with bottom lines. A mate of mine, (non-surfer for what it’s worth), was asked to start as an accountant for one of them. After about 3 months, he was told that the bloke who had left to open his position was coming back, so he would be leaving. My mate was fine with that, just wanted a letter from said company to clarify why he only worked there for 3 months. They wouldn’t do it, because it would open them up to unfair dismissal claim. He said he wasn’t interested in that, would sign disclaimer/indemnity against, but they still wouldn’t.
As it turned out, his girlfriend was a lawyer type, whose firm got involved and it ended up costing the company way more dollars than a sweet little of letter could have easily avoided. Fuck the big names, support the little guys having a crack!
This is all well and good but don’t complain when there is no longer any money to sponsor surfers.
If you can surf comfortably in a short-arm wetsuit, then ANY short arm wetsuit will work just fine. That means the water is warm as hell.
Make a 4/3 that actually feels good and keeps you warm in 50F degree water and I’ll pay attention.
Buy low end 4/3 suits and high end 6/5/4 suits!
I am bad at cold water so I spend way too much money on wetsuits: A life story
Cold water? Aren’t you in SB?
ha yeah! like i said i’m bad at cold water 😉
Maybe, I like using my short arm wettie when the surf is bigger for easier paddling
They’re Warby Parkering the surf industry big wigs. Worked very well for WP. Why pay for inflated marketing budgets of companies needing to subsidize their BS products by over- inflating the prices of their core products?
Vissla is also a rather big name undercutting the other big brand suits. $200 US for a fine 3/2. I got one that is all black and not a logo to be found. Core. Word is that they are exactly the same as Essential, or Neat, or one of the black label players. While it’ll cost you an arm and possibly a leg; the best suits that I have ever had bare none, are Matuse.
None of these cunts sell Large Small!
Hi Heisenberg,
I started this busniess on a very tight budget which only allowed me to order and stock 4 sizes and in mens styles only. Believe me if I had the money I would have had 7 sizes and Mens, Ladies and Kids suits but unfortuneatly that is not the case.
We are looking to add sizes MS (Medium Short), MT (Medium Tall) and LS (Large Short) as we grow and get support along with other key accessories surfers use.
There have been smaller indys for agesssss. Anyone remember Aleeda. And, well, if you want a cold water westuit you buy from someone who frickin lives in cold water – not Australian cold water, sheesh, that ain’t cold. Gul gets the monies.Or if you want to spend money and care about supply chains and the enviro: Norrøna
Aleeda small Indy? Their wetsuits costed double than everybody else’s. Surely you understand this article is about price…Go sober up!
You’re tripping. I don’t need to be sober to know their wetsuits come in around 200 to 300 bucks (for top end) http://www.aleeda.com.au/in…
I have been going there for my face mask for a decade now.
xox
Cause they bust and reemerged, son. When they came out in 1981…
Gul used to have the market cornered over here, they were good suits at the time, haven’t had one in about 15 years, no idea about there quality these days!
very good. way better than all the hipster ones coming out with those adventure labels cough finsterre cough
Hi DrunkenAngel,
I know the guys at Aleeda ( nice guys ) They dont do many wetsuits that can handle cold water, most of their suits now are just flatock and not GBS.
All our wetsuits are tested in the cold waters of Australia ( Tassie , Victoria ) and NZ. We are only doing up to 4×3 at the moment but will add 543 and 654 with and without Hoods.
hi vincent … are they so nice as to send me free neoprene off cuts? i am making my own outfit.
If your making cold water suits try adding a little tab to the wrist so u can easily roll down your sleeve over your gloves.
Got NEED. Like.
they are very good have a few
I borrow a perished scuba diving wetsuit off the neighbour, and then i piss all though it to keep me warm.
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I borrow a perished scuba diving wetsuit off the neighbour, and then i piss all though it to keep me warm.
Piss through it – I will know who you are when I visit Munich in few weeks then
I’d be delighted to buy one.
Need a fricken job first! Shit’s tight round here.
I’ve been around wetsuits as the punter since the first days of modern suits, the independent wettie I bought online to help a couple of mates starting is freaking awesome ,I feel the second batches cant be this same awesome rubber ,its that good , got the rip curl flashas and swimming with the camera after while chills me right out ! so flipping the card Independent surf co way for the 4/3 , cant wait
Go Roycey Leu!
I own a small fin and leash company myself. It is the era of the Little Guy.
name it!
Same thing happening in the golf industry with golf balls. Cutting out the middle man. Yay, capitalism!
Is there a little man in the middle of golf balls?
Shit! My mind is blown…
direct to consumer is more like “yay UPS, fuck commercial real estate”. its the retail markup on most products that’s brutal. distributors (real middlemen) aren’t getting you that bad.