Disqus boats sailing from Stab.
Disqus boats sailing from Stab.

Comments: Give us your tired, your poor!

Stab is closing its comments but there is a place for those yearning to talk shit!

Late yesterday evening you maybe read right here that Stab magazine principals purchased Stab back from failing online retailer Surfstitch and are once again captains of their own ship. The news thrilled me. Oh I know I know I poke at Stab regularly. I laugh and cajole and needle and elbow but I have never stopped loving. Derek Rielly, Stab’s co-founder, gave me my real start and I will always and forever remember standing outside my  mailbox in Los Angeles, waiting for the issues to come.

It was the greatest publication ever in my wide eyes.

Anyhow, Stab’s co-founder Sam McIntosh took a rare and much welcomed spin behind the keyboard explaining the decisions to both sell and repurchase and also to announce Ashton Goggans taking over as Editor-in-Chief.

A better man could not be found!

You most certainly remember Ashton’s turn here on BeachGrit and I am excited to see his imprint on Stab. He is smart, informed, fun and is my very favorite of our exes. Best of all, maybe, Ashton has a spine. A strong, straight spine. He is the sort you’d want in you corner during a bar fight.

Sam also wrote that Stab is putting their comments to death. Let’s read!

Among many things, Ashton is driven to lose our Disqus comments platform. And I think we’re now old enough to move on. A story’s true meritocracy isn’t reflected in anonymous comments. Ashton’s rationale is simple: It should be a pleasure when Stab calls. We all win when our subjects are candid and transparent. They don’t deserve to be anonymously torn to shreds by faceless commenters every time they post a new web edit, or open their mouths. And, it’s hard to argue with. The subjects of our voices are far less interesting than those of our subjects so we’ll be switching to Facebook comments by the end of the year (where we will encourage the same criticism, laconic wit and unique insight).

What do you think about this?

I think hmmmmmmmm. Of course Sam meant “A story’s true merit isn’t reflected in anonymous comments” instead of “A story’s true meritocracy…” but I have to disagree. The comments underneath are the purest and best reflection of worth. I’ve had so many stories torn apart down under and each deserved. Surfers and surf personalities should welcome the tune-up too. Iron sharpens iron etc.

“The subjects of our voices are far less interesting than those of our subjects…” I don’t know exactly what this means but if Sam is saying that the surfers are more interesting than the commenters then he is wildly wrong. The surfers, surf personalities, surf spots, surfboards, surf surf surf are, for the most part, blank slates. It is the endless discussion that gives form and life.

I know BeachGrit’s comment section is a different garden than Stab’s and all thanks to our dear Negatron. We don’t allow dumb or needlessly cruel and we never will. But I am as proud of our community as I am anything here.

The core of the core of the core… men and women who are unhealthily obsessed with surfing… have been ignored by the surf industry, competitive surfing and the surf media for as long as I’ve been around. Ignored or taken for granted. Well, the core of the core of the core is all I care about. So to the comment refugees I write:

Not like the brazen giant of Venice-adjacent fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A surf website whose flame is the imprisoned lightning,
and her name BeachGrit. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her addled eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that Bondi and Cardiff frame.
“Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to talk shit,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the Disqus door!”

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mike o
mike o
9 years ago

I love Ashton Goggans, as one man to another only can!! We sometimes are found logging Malibu together. But ‘meritocracy’ is a noun-defined as a society or social system based on advancement through ability and excellence and exceptionalism- Ayn Rand kind of place- it’s not an adjective:- thus”a story”- cannot have- “a meritocracy” as its predicate; it’s just not English:- as I learned it!!!

ashtongoggans
ashtongoggans
9 years ago
Reply to  mike o

Yo, Mike! Sam’s Australian, but I should have caught that after it went live.

david fffff
david fffff
9 years ago

On the positive side, I’m looking forward to getting my comments deleted by Negz.

(Just kidding, even on Stab I have no real edge)

blumpkin mung
blumpkin mung
9 years ago

We all know that this is just an excuse to save Dane from being called out for his worst transgression yet; the invitees to his Former movie err web edit LA premiere.

http://stabmag.com/style/da…

‘premium violence’… really?

Bleach'd Git
Bleach'd Git
9 years ago
Reply to  blumpkin mung

Aiming for a US defense contract. Smart move.

Noa's last dart
Noa's last dart
9 years ago

I’m glad Peter Dutton isn’t running the refugee ship over here because none of us would be passing the required English test.

channelbottom
channelbottom
9 years ago

It’s easy to get frustrated about surf content when you are stuck in a position where you can’t actually go surfing. At least a chap can go have a wank in desperation. What’s the surfing equivalent?

Dooma
Dooma
9 years ago

Can finally leave this shithole and go back to Stab.

turts
turts
9 years ago

Putting your comments section on Facebook is like advertising SUPs in your magazine/ website. Really shows your target audience.

longtom
longtom
9 years ago

also truth

Daddy Pig
Daddy Pig
9 years ago

Hahahahaha ‘don’t allow dumb and needlessly cruel’…

Tom
Tom
9 years ago

Trestles is on in epic 1ft conditions!! Forecast must be great!!

bitter guy
bitter guy
9 years ago

Negs and Mariano are consummate professionals; don’t fret.

Dogsnuts
Dogsnuts
9 years ago

COTW.

Wiggolly's Paddling Style
Wiggolly's Paddling Style
9 years ago

Ashton replaced his spine with a long erect cock years ago.

ashtongoggans
ashtongoggans
9 years ago

See, this is gold.

Shampoo Poo
Shampoo Poo
9 years ago

Rule #6…never trust an Ashton.

longtom
longtom
9 years ago

Could we get Ashton in here to actually confirm that he finds the vapid, vacuous thoughts (mostly) of pro surfers and surf more interesting than comments (and lets be honest, the comments on surf sites are the single best thing about surf, the thing we do better than any other “sub” culture)………..

…or whether he is just sick to the eyeballs of STAB comments and wants a clean slate.
I mean, fucking Facebook? The site for baby boomer sad sacks/mommy bloggers to all stand around blowing smoke up each others arses.

ashtongoggans
ashtongoggans
9 years ago
Reply to  longtom

God, the thought of my fucking mother commenting on my stories on Facebook is, perhaps more than the maelstrom of bullshit I was on the receiving end of today, is enough to make me want to throw in the towel.

To your point, I’m of the belief neither are interesting without the other. A crowd’s wit and wisdom, a subject’s honestly and candor, that’s when things get fun. But if no one wants to talk, because the Comments section is just one big race to the bottom, then what’s the fucking point?

Honestly, when I stepped in, it felt like people had thrown up their hands and given up on Comments long ago. Instead of tossing them, we’ll be doubling down, and all of our writers will be in the mix.

BTW, Shearer, big fan.

longtom
longtom
9 years ago
Reply to  ashtongoggans

yeah, I saw your ……um..backflip…..it was pretty ballsy. Anyhow, good luck with the gig.

Paulo De Tarso Duarte
Paulo De Tarso Duarte
9 years ago

Wow time to my retirement…
The KKK is coming!
Kaveira… and his Klassics Komrades…

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

ricmatic
ricmatic
9 years ago

I remember Sam being a better writer than that. I suspect a bot

channelbottom
channelbottom
9 years ago
Reply to  ricmatic

I suspect a committee.

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
9 years ago

Its been fun, ladies and gents! RIP Negatron, RIP Mariano!

Jimmy the Saint
Jimmy the Saint
9 years ago

I spent a lot of time over at stab in the past, writing shit etc, but the lunatics took over the asylum long ago! It was ugly and stupid but yet I always enjoyed reading the comments when Al Knost or Ford Archibald dropped an edit! I’m wiping tears from my eyes that we won’t get to see our favourite professional surfers being publicly impaled!

Wowen Ilson
Wowen Ilson
9 years ago

So Chas is like the Angela Merkel of surf media?


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