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Says Chris Cote: "Instagram is going to play a huge part in progression because the clips are becoming instant. There’s no more 'saving shit for a video part'." | Photo: @ryzphoto

“We’re on threshold of a new era of super moves!”

Throw flowers at John John Florence's Crossbones Lien Air!

It hasn’t been John John Florence’s year at all. His ice cubes have been nervously rattling in his glass all season. Correct me if I’m wrong, but five heat wins in five events, a heat average of twelve.

And you would’ve presumed that the Hawaiian with the skin that looks like an ad for Johnson’s baby powder would’ve owned Keramas.

He didn’t.

Contest are like that. Some days you clap to the rhythm of the Bazouki, the crowd standing on the beach hollering and clamouring for more; other days you’re denounced by every critic in town.

A few days ago at Keramas, however, John John almost landed a Crossbones Lien Air that the snowboard announcer, former Olympian and skater/surfer Todd Richards describes as “more impressive than any spin done to date. I feel like we are on the threshold of a new era of super moves.”

Background.

One week ago, Richards appeared on The Grit with Chas Smith and “explained why surfers are culturally appropriating assholes. How surfers take the blood, sweat and tears of the skateboarders and snowboarders before them and laugh and mock and then call things that happen above the lip of the wave Gorkin Flip and Bologna Sandwiche” instead of their proper nomenclatures born in the Fires of Mordor.”

Chris Coté, the sometime WSL commentator, a Joe Turpel type but with the gravitas of the skilled skater-surfer, says, “It’s the year of the air!  I think this is the most we’ve been talking about airs since Christian Fletcher won the Body Glove Surf Bout and the ‘established’ pros revolted and tried to ground his air superiority, and I love it!

“Instagram is going to play a huge part in progression because the clips are becoming instant. There’s no more ‘saving shit for a video part’. I hate to keep bringing up skating but in skateboarding some kid can film a crazy trick in Iowa, send it to @metroskateboarding or @theberrics and a million kids will see it and instantly start trying to learn that trick. Surfing is harder cause you need lenses and stuff to see what the person is doing, but, filmers and pros and companies are getting faster at dropping clips so this hyper-fast learning curve is going to start happening more in surfing.

“In the case of John John’s latest air, if anybody names it, it has to be followed by *attempt until he makes it. I don’t think John posted it cause he never posts things he doesn’t land as far as I know. Cool looking air, for sure. Photo is probably mental, but you can’t (shouldn’t) print it if he didn’t land it. All that said, I watched that air 27 times and will watch it 25 more times cause I loved it, please land that thing JJF.”

What’s next?

“I want to see that landed,” says Richards. “I want to see a backside air pulled across snowboard method style. I feel like we are right there. All it takes is for John squared to land one and some eight-year-old sees it says, ‘Oh that’s possible!’ and does a full-scrotation with a boned out front leg. It’s coming for sure.”

 

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Noncompetitor
Noncompetitor
8 years ago
Noncompetitor
Noncompetitor
8 years ago

Can Todd explain why that’s not a method? Seems too simple, I know

Pierre Wikberg
Pierre Wikberg
8 years ago
Reply to  Noncompetitor

Because it’s frontside.

Low wide stinkbug stance
Low wide stinkbug stance
8 years ago

I prefer the Richard Cram cutback personally.

toofattosurf
toofattosurf
8 years ago

take it from brazzo bodyboarding, it’s a ‘três meia zero invertido aéreo’…

Jen See
Jen See
8 years ago

I guess I’d have to see a make? Because that was kind of ugly, actually!

paulo de tarso
paulo de tarso
8 years ago

This is the future!
Men and women, single … and crème de la crème: Synchro, the most difficult of all modalities, duos x duos… men, women, men and women heats…
Kelly’s pool: on the right one duo, on the left another duo … each pair synchronized doing their routines … and then … invert the sides!
Cote, 89 champion, Turp, Ronnie, Rosie, Kaipo, cheering on each routine!

https://www.youtube.com/wat…

paulo de tarso
paulo de tarso
8 years ago
Reply to  paulo de tarso

Australian duo: Julian and Wilko … Owen and Tyler! Better, Mickey and Tyler, the mullet fluttering!
Brazilian duo: Filipe and Ítalo … they will have to raise the gym’s roof! Medina, shaved chest, and Tatiana…
North American duo: Brother and … Colapinto! Kelly and Lakey… c’mon he deserves another title!
Hawaiian duo: Zeke and … Double J Single F (ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony …) !!! Asing and Carissa!… maybe Bruh C A Room and My Son Ho
Rest of The World duo: Jordy and Leo! Jordy and Frederico! Jordy and Duru! Jordy and Bourez! Jordy and Jeremy! Jordy and Dong Dong… because Jordy deserves all the chances

Poop Stance
Poop Stance
8 years ago

Todd Richards is a name dropping jock kook. Of course he loves wave pools, he only rode perfect halfpipes in flat ass fucking Breckinridge until he “reinvented” himself to ride perfect park jumps with an extra 90 degrees of spin (Hello DLS). And now because he surfs mushy North County waves like every other washed pro snobro he’s a surfing authority? He certainly doesn’t speak for surfing, nor all of snowboarding, and he for god damn sure doesn’t speak for skateboarding.

If we’re gonna get old surfing snowboarders to announce I’d much rather listen to IOC boycotting Terje mumble.

Poop Stance
Poop Stance
8 years ago
Reply to  Poop Stance

That caffeine fueled rant was in regards to the Surf Splendor podcast in case it didn’t make any sense.

longtom
longtom
8 years ago
Reply to  Poop Stance

upvote for Terje

slipped disc
slipped disc
8 years ago
Reply to  Poop Stance

…that was your takeaway from the podcast?! David Lee Scales and his “compass theory” was the ultimate dork argument, and it was so god-awful that it overpowered anything else that happened on the show.

Poop Stance
Poop Stance
8 years ago
Reply to  slipped disc

It’s my favorite meaningless argument ever! At first I was like, “Go Todd!” and I agree with him for the most part especially w/ trick names. But by the end he sounds like an arrogant prick. DLS was right in a sense that surf/snow spins don’t spin as much and seem to add an extra 90+ which, as a skater, I’ve always thought was weak. DLS just had a shit debate presentation or was totally missing it.

Certainly an entertaining episode.

slipped disc
slipped disc
8 years ago
Reply to  Poop Stance

You made it through the whole episode?! Bravo! I tapped out halfway through.

Pierre Wikberg
Pierre Wikberg
8 years ago
Reply to  Poop Stance

You’re almost as upset as me.
And why shouldn’t surfing honor trick names that have been around for decades?

Trogan Fan
Trogan Fan
8 years ago
Reply to  Pierre Wikberg

because they’re not the same sport.

Pierre Wikberg
Pierre Wikberg
8 years ago
Reply to  Trogan Fan

So JJ isn’t emulating skating/snowboarding here?
Surf aerials are “their own” original tricks?

Stu Azole
Stu Azole
8 years ago
Reply to  Pierre Wikberg

who cares?

do skaters and snowboarders have some sort of inferiority complex here?

BTW, is a cutback now called a 180?

Pierre Wikberg
Pierre Wikberg
8 years ago
Reply to  Stu Azole

Seems like you don’t care.
I do.
But more along the lines that it’s so obvious, not an inferiority complex.
Compare it to music if you please. Just because you play a guitar doesn’t mean you don’t read notes the same as someone who plays piano. A “C” is the the same across all instruments.
A Lien air, stale fish, Indy, alley-oop etc are the same in skate/snow/surf.
You can’t just stop applying facts cause you “surfing is different” (since it’s not).

Stu Azole
Stu Azole
8 years ago
Reply to  Pierre Wikberg

of course you can.

but you didn’t answer – is a cutback now properly called a 180? And the rebound of the whitewash back on to the face another 180? Or is the whole move a 360?

And surfers were probably doing a cutback before skaters existed. Is there a move in snowboarding called a cutback or an off the lip? Shouldn’t there be?

Stu Azole
Stu Azole
8 years ago
Reply to  Pierre Wikberg

and isn’t a 50/50 just a floater? Which came first and which sport needs to change the name?

And now that we’re on it, skating started as sidewalk surfing. Shouldn’t most early skate moves have surf names if we’re giving proper credit? Why do skaters and snowboarders ride fakie and not switch?

Poop Stance
Poop Stance
8 years ago
Reply to  Stu Azole

A cut back is now called a kickturn. You’d have to text Rodney Mullen for what a rebound off the foam is. That’s too technical for me. Yes, floaters are now called 50-50’s and if your nose is out of the water it’s a 5-0, just like snowboarding.

Stu Azole
Stu Azole
8 years ago
Reply to  Poop Stance

does skating have a bottom turn equivalent?

And I’m pretty sure a kick turn came after the cutback, so we should make sure skaters change the name ASAP.

Poop Stance
Poop Stance
8 years ago
Reply to  Stu Azole

I don’t know what those are called but John Lucero does them on a mini in his part after the credits in Black Labels “Label Kills”. https://youtu.be/L2cPD1O8pQw

Poop Stance
Poop Stance
8 years ago
Reply to  Poop Stance

So I suppose bottom turns are called Luceros now.

“I need to work on my backside Luceros”

Trogan Fan
Trogan Fan
8 years ago
Reply to  Pierre Wikberg

Pierre, where did you go? Stu asks questions that need to be answered!

Timmy touch
Timmy touch
8 years ago
Reply to  Poop Stance

Garyfeltersnatch

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago

You’re on fire. Keep it up. In igne!

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago

Mctwist:
scocie filium torquent

Preston
Preston
8 years ago

The future of surfing.
https://local.theonion.com/…

Antipodes
Antipodes
8 years ago

The real question is what does Albee think?

astro
astro
8 years ago

lmao

astro
astro
8 years ago

Har – I fear the cuntards will have their way, mate.
Gotta be able to explain shit to Joe sixer.

Meanwhile, the rest of surfing won’t give a fuck.

Seamus
Seamus
8 years ago

Method. He should try it backside.

Waterproof Polo
Waterproof Polo
8 years ago
Reply to  Seamus

Method airs are the shit.

Chazz Michael Michaels
Chazz Michael Michaels
8 years ago

None of this is going to happen until the boards lose a foot and look like Tomos or wakeboards. I’m not sure that’s something we want to see, aesthetically.

Willy
Willy
8 years ago

It wasn’t tweaked. The nose just got out of the way so he had to move it to see the landing. John’s a down to earth, salt of the earth, practical man.

Nick Carroll
Nick Carroll
8 years ago

Speaking of the Fires of Mordor…

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago

I vote for the latinization of the lexicon a la botany etc.

astro
astro
8 years ago
Reply to  channelbottom

*et al.
*Binomial nomenclature
Trying to keep it tight, CB.

channelbottom
channelbottom
8 years ago
Reply to  astro

Sorry sir.
Got lazy.

But I do mean “a la”.

astro
astro
8 years ago

We’re just pawns in a bigger more cynical media game, Twillsy.
Richards and Cote are gunning for the Olympic booth.
That’s why there’s all this fukkn noise about degrees of rotation, reverts etc;

Ol Todd doesn’t just want a 4 year gig every Winters he wants to hustle in on the Summers as well. Double up, bro.

Tom
Tom
8 years ago

In all honesty am surprised is not more snowboard style tweaks and method moves actually already in airs these guys do


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