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Jen See to Stab: “We are not here to be your mascots; We are not here to be your fucking video dolls!”

"This is a slap in the face to all of my female friends and colleagues in media. We have worked our asses off to carve out space for ourselves in publishing."

Dear Stab,

We’ve never met, but I’ve seen you around. You like surfing and so do I. That seems like the basis for a beautiful friendship.

There’s just one problem. You seem to be living in an entirely different decade than I am. There you are, a bunch of dudes, talking about surfing and ogling the girls. There’s nothing wrong necessarily with being a bunch of dudes, ogling girls. It’s just that, these days, it isn’t really recommended on company time. Time has moved on, and maybe you should, too.

I was pleasantly surprised when a commenter here on BeachGrit tipped me off that you were looking to hire a female editor. And a senior editor, at that. They told me to apply, suggesting that the rivalry between our two publications might offer me leverage in negotiating salary. I do like leverage, and getting paid for my work is generally very appealing.

I went to your site to see what you had in mind. I saw no job announcement, so I dismissed the whole thing from my mind and went back to dreaming of surf and writing a pitch email for a story idea. This, in a nutshell, is how I spend my days. I am not what you call cool.

Then, someone sent me your Instagram post. This stopped me dead. The pleasant daydream of low-tide Rincon I was enjoying dissolved, rudely.

With all due respect, what in the actual fuck were you thinking?

I understand your intention, I believe. You looked around your office and realized, well, fuck, we don’t have any women working for us. You realized that maybe people would think less of you for this failure. So you set out, as best as you could, to fix it.

But, you forgot to come out of your prehistoric mancaves and take a look around at what life actually looks like in 2019.

To begin with, it is illegal under U.S. employment law to discriminate on the basis of gender in a job call. You can not, no matter how good your intention, say that you wish to hire a woman. With that, you just made yourselves extremely easy to sue — and I’ll confess, I would laugh and laugh, if a man sued you for employment discrimination.

He would have ample grounds.

In your call for a senior editor, you asked for a cover letter and a one-minute, to-the-camera video spot. I have seen many, many position calls for senior editor positions in my time. (To be clear, I freelance by choice, though I always say, that I would change my mind if the right thing came along.) I have yet to see an editorial position that did not ask for clips or detail required experience. Instead of all that you said, well, just make us a video.

Surf Publication Seeks Hot Female Editor

That is how your call sounds. A conference room full of men is going to watch women on video and decide who to hire. Why not just ask us to send photos of our boobs? In fact, I considered, for a brief moment, submitting a one-minute montage of boobs.

If you want to hire a female editor, it is not, in fact, that hard. You could just write a job call, detailing the skills and experience-level you are seeking. You can even encourage women to apply without breaking the fucking law.

Here, let me help:

Stab is looking to hire a senior editor to direct its expanding coverage of women’s surfing in all its many aspects, from competition to culture. Applicants should have TK years experience in the media and a bachelor’s degree in journalism, english, or a related field. This editor will also contribute video content to Stab and should be adept at speaking on camera. A deep knowledge of surfing and excellent writing skills required. Women and other underrepresented minorities are encouraged to apply.

There. That’s it. It’s not actually that hard. And you know what? If you’d posted your job opening like professionals, you would attract talented, dedicated women who would make your publication look good due to their work.

But that doesn’t seem to be what you really want. You want credit for hiring a woman. And you want your brand rep’d at the North Shore parties by a hot girl. You want her to raise your credibility with your male peers. Hey, look who works for us, aren’t you jealous? And then you can pat yourselves on the back and return to the Jurassic, undisturbed.

We could have been friends, Stab. Surfing is awesome and I love it more than is good for me. You seem to like it, too. I have been to your events and enjoyed your beer and laughed at your dumb jokes. I’ll confess that I like dumb jokes as much as I like surfing.

But this is a slap in the face to all of my female friends and colleagues in media. We have worked our asses off to carve out space for ourselves in publishing. For too many of us, it has been a long, shitty battle.

We have sat with a pleasant smile on our faces as less qualified men were hired ahead of us, over and over. We have picked up magazines, counted bylines, and found not a single byline, not one, with a women’s name on it. No women in the photo credits. No women depicted in the editorial images. Over and over, we have done this.

Somehow we have survived all this bullshit — and managed in between it all, to make the stories that matter to us. Not every time, not every day. But enough.

So I take this one personally — not only on my own account, but on the account of all of my friends who do this job every day.

We are not here to be your mascots. We are not here to be your fucking video dolls. We are not here to dance when you say dance. We are here to do the work. You want to hire one of us? Take us seriously and make it worth our time. Otherwise, with all due respect, you can fuck straight off.

jen.

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samwaters
samwaters
6 years ago

Hires, fires, ‘lawsuits’, this is all getting pretty serious. (Enough to make a cat turn over in his grave), so who was the girl in the bikini at the top of your (past) story? Why a girl in a bikini at all? If this is gonna keep playing out here, (everyone’s gotta answer the hard questions too), I’m no big fan of Stab, but let’s keep the playing field even, I just think we need all the facts to keep everyone here accountable and equitable………

Freddie
Freddie
6 years ago

Muy bueno Jen See and I’m with you 100%
Just FYI though: In Scandinavia female quota is not just a term but a reality. Meaning that if you are “equally” qualified as your male counterpart(s) for a position, the employer is by law obliged to offer YOU the job as a means of increasing gender equality at said workplace.

Makes me wonder, which is worse?!? Not getting a job because you’re a woman, or getting a job ONLY because you’re a woman? I think we agree on the answer.

Having to endure caveman remarks such as “She only got this job cause of gender equality laws” is, in my book, a much heavier under-the belt-punch than any derogatory physical characteristics and the polar opposite of female empowerment to every woman who put down the hours, blood, sweat and tears to get to where she is

I do not know you Jen See, nor do I know what you look like (as if that mattered). All I know is that you’re a word-slinger of the uppermost echelon who’s work I admire and anticipate with excitement. And I’m willing to bet that gender was not a criteria considered by Chas/Beach Grit when giving you a blank canvas. Although, as you have repeatedly demonstrated to us BG aficionados, it s a bonus indeed.

Billy  Crystalmethodman
Billy Crystalmethodman
6 years ago

Shouldn’t he be fired for this?

M.
M.
6 years ago

Fuck yeah. That was beautiful.

Has Ashton reached out yet?

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago

Just use the block user button if you’d rather not have him in your feed.

f u
f u
6 years ago

insecure mutch? sorry if my stories make you feel like someone who hasnt lived. my haters are all washed up wannabes

Ollybeak
Ollybeak
6 years ago

I think you need to head back to 4chan.

toofattosurf
toofattosurf
6 years ago

no don’t do it, he’s just a stupid brazzo, he don’t know shit…

Mishad
Mishad
6 years ago

I get your point, but overall it seems like an emotional reaction opinion piece designed to un/consciously assuage a past hurt/s or traumatic experience/s you experienced at the hands of a male. You are free to do that but succumbing to an emotional reaction comes off as weak, and that’s exactly what women need to avoid to make an impact in a patriarchal world. I might add that my partner runs her own marketing/advertising business in an industry dominated by males and holds her own. She is an inspiration, she lets her work do the talking. Yes women are facing an uphill battle and get passed over many many times but something I’ve noticed for those who stay the course and are on purpose – the cream will eventually rise to top. You write well though, look forward to more pieces.

Karl Myers
Karl Myers
6 years ago

Holy shit this is amazing. Nice work, Jen.

Ollybeak
Ollybeak
6 years ago

For all those who deny the categorisation: ‘privileged white male’, this is surely a great rebuttal. This is what entitlement looks like – a bunch of cunty guys thinking a tokenistic hiring will give them cover to carry on being sexist.

Very well-written response Jen, the righteous frustration was palpable.

KRIS
KRIS
6 years ago

… best surf mag ever. period.
Gra Murdoch is a fuckn genius!

samwaters
samwaters
6 years ago

Hi Jen, just thought I’d go back and check out the pic. again–but it looks likes it’s been deleted–changed to another pic.–or I’m looking in the wrong place. Is it still there. Just trying to keep the facts straight, as a History major and journalist, I’m sure you undertand. Not trying to cause trouble, but if the guys are gonna discuss this, facts count.
Whether that was a picture of you or not in a bikini, I’m sure you look very beautiful. Aloha………..

SurferBlindedByChlorine
SurferBlindedByChlorine
6 years ago

My mistake, maybe it was one of your comments (which were always interesting) in that awful place, that I read as an article. Maybe it was because your comments were waaaay better than some articles…IDK

I agree that they reaaaally cross the line in this occasion, and I am sorry that you as a human being and a woman, was exposed to that shit.

Mino
Mino
6 years ago

Amen sista 👏👏👏

Smurfaholic
Smurfaholic
6 years ago

Bravo! (Or brava… which do you prefer?)

That was a breath of fucking fresh air.

f u
f u
6 years ago

I havent done anything. Though Scottsandiego has created two indetities using my name to troll the site. if thats the kinda place you want than so be it,

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

I’ve already had a word to him.

You’re just a misunderstood troll.

Audit In Progress
Audit In Progress
6 years ago

I was being (mostly) facetious, probz not ol’ Scarf McYellowhat.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago

Ha, but you’ve only got the one target in mind and he’s going to know that and he’s going to love the fact that he made you do this.

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

I dont love it. death threats and stalking is freaky

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

Ummm you reep what you sow in life and online mate.

toofattosurf
toofattosurf
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

*reap

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago
Reply to  toofattosurf

Someday I’ll get that Grammarly app to stop me from looking so retarded.

toofattosurf
toofattosurf
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

we here for that, you welcome…

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

he is not known for his intelligence. he is keyboard warrior/troll/”moderator” with a major insecurity problem.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

Love a post paying out someone on their intelligence filled with spelling errors. Gold.

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

negatron. maybe you should look in the mirror. I havent been trolling anyone. look back through my comments and you will see that you have been the one trolling me and promoting that i be shot in the head or wiped off the face of the earth by people stalking me with multiple accounts. That is psychotic dangerous behavior to be promoting in a country with so many gun nuts.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

Don’t play the victim you’ve been involved twice in the last two weeks with meeting up to fight talk. Your comment history shows multiple deleted comments from yourself over 10 from me in the last few months.
Most of this stems from your defensive commentary. Stories with no back up.
You seem to just want to talk with yourself.

If you have grave concerns for your safety I think the best course is to remove you. That way I can’t troll you, others can’t threaten to track you down and you won’t be in anymore situations where others want to fight you or engage in conversations that cause you distress.

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

I resolved with everyone but the psycho because he is obssesed. the stories with no back up thing is weird. are you supposed to provide pics and video with a story you tell. I held off from telling a atory on a article chas just posted about the rich guy because of you. I would think that a surf website would want people to contibute stories. Your boss likes my contibutions so its kinda weird that you are on this trip.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

Alot of you you you. But not suprised. And my Boss? Elo?

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

just get over and move on like an adult.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

Point is, I don’t want to and shouldn’t have to “get over” you behaving like an arsehole.
And you haven’t resolved fuck all from what I’ve seen and read.
Basically just check yourself Dude before I have to.

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

lol

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

“I am a forest, and a night of dark trees: but he who is not afraid of my darkness, will find banks full of roses under my cypresses.” -Nietzsche

ricmatic
ricmatic
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

Great quote Ck, I enjoy your take on things. But you should own your part in this.

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  ricmatic

i have about thirty times but someone ersased it all. appoligized, wished him peace with whatever is botherng him , went way overboard pleading with him to stop sending me messages and creating fake accounts to do so. and negs jumps on board backing up his wish that I get shot in the head and have multile accounts. My aunt died and I dont have it in me to fight. Its absurd that this is still going on.

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

Bullshit.
The deleted comments are not ”deleted” just elsewhere.
And they show a completely different version of events.
But you are right it is absurd that this is still going on.
So I’m going to stop the problem.

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

I dont know where “elsewhere” is but does Disques let you know when they have erased things? because I reported him and then the super crazy posts he sent vanished. aloha

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

There is a deleted comment folder here in the back end. Thats why I know youre full of shit when you play the victim card, I can clearly see your role in this.

He deleted his other account and the comments died with that action. I’ve also deleted afew comments myself recently.

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

im not interested in a fight. you are right from your side and iam right from mine. can we please focus on the present and not the past and move on.

ricmatic
ricmatic
6 years ago
Reply to  f u

sorry to hear about your Aunt

f u
f u
6 years ago
Reply to  ricmatic

thank you very much

NEGATRON
NEGATRON
6 years ago

I can see what you’re about to do here… And I don’t want the comments to turn into a personal battleground.

I like you dude, you add a lot of value to this site hence me not calling you out as I don’t want to embarrass you.
The easiest way to deal with this situation or a cunty troll of a person (I know he is and I have banned him a couple of times) is to just hit the block button and hey presto you never see his comments again.

Waterproof Polo
Waterproof Polo
6 years ago
Reply to  NEGATRON

Wow! What did I miss here? Did someone try to troll me?


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