Listen: Surfer “comedian” Luke Cederman on COVID-19 lockdown in New Zealand, “We have people over here with pitchforks and torches. If someone’s doing something wrong, ‘Get ‘em , throw ‘em in jail, fine ‘em!’ It’s turned everyone against each other!”

Neighbour against neighbour on Dirty Water, episode four.

Today on Dirty Water, Chas and I talk about many exciting things with the pro-ish surfer, comedian, creator of the YouTube series One And a Half Men and the star of our Once Upon a Time in New Zealand wetsuit film last year, Luke Cederman.

Luke is anti-camper, pro-lockdown, the screw-footed king of NZ’s most famous lefthand point and proprietor of the Instagram account @raglandsurfreport.

We talk,

Why the he took the anti-surfing side during New Zealand’s level four lockdown, how the lockdown “has turned everyone against each other”, his remarkable COVID-19 proof t-shirts, whether or not surfing makes him happy or if he surfs out of habit and maybe indignity, if kooks have equal rights, like, no, if he had to surf one wave for the rest of his life what would it be and what does it take to qualify as a surfer.

Chas, meanwhile, waxes with typical eloquence on the joys of being a lower intermediate surfer and pumping down the line, missing section after section.