Which side will win?
Hawaii, well known for its rainbows, shaved ice and very find surf, is currently being ripped apart at the very seams as animal rights advocates, typically thin-armed and shrill, are ripping each other apart in a vicious civil war pitting cat lovers against bird lovers.
The troubles started with an explosion of the island’s feral cat population, which has boomed into the millions.
There they sit, under swaying palms, licking their own filth, killing birds.
According to scientists, cats kill an estimated 2.4 billion birds in the U.S. alone. The problem is exacerbated in Hawaii where native birds are not used to feline business and, therefore, easier to munch.
To help reduce the feral cat population, cat advocates have encouraged a program called TNR or “trap neuter release.” Bird advocates declare it is not enough as, once released, the sexless cats continue to kill, kill, kill. They argue that the program should be rolled into TNSD or “trap neuter suffocate dissect.”
The two sides are now engaged in a well-funded propagandhi war, violently handing out glossy pamphlets etc. pleading their position.
Which side will win?
Are you Team Cat or Team Bird?
I once dissected a suffocated cat in school. It looked a little like Tunsis.
It’d be the worse at those places. Well, that’s what I thought up until this story was posted. Now I’m thinking explosive diarrhea on the production set of NBC’s “Ultimate Slip N’ Slide” sounds far worse. God-might smite. It’s Mighty. It’s Mighty funny too.
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We have cats but they aren’t good enough hunters to get the birds around here. They mainly come back with grasshoppers.
A Butcher Bird was hanging out with me today as I mowed the grass under the gumtrees that our lot is covered with. He/ she was getting a good harvest of skinks and insects uncovered by the mower. The cats wouldn’t be able to touch this guy. Way too fast.
Fuck cats
Bet there is less of them in Wailua , cat adobo da philipino kine grinds
Cat-astrophic!
We have an indoor cat, she’s fucken awesome.
Every cat owner I ever met has an indoor cat , they still go outside a kill stuff but hey whatever you say mate
Have your mum explain what indoors is. Let us know how you go champ.
Keep your head in the sand mate , cats are killers and men with cats generally ask their mum’s for advice , sad really
I’ll keep it simple for you Forest. Indoors is the bit with the walls, roof, doors and windows – that’s where our cat lives. Would you like me to draw it for you?
Cunt birds tease my cat from dawn to dusk knowing he can’t reach them. https://uploads.disquscdn.c…
Birds are evolving dinosaurs, I have many. 30 small and 20 conures etc….slow mo sound replay of parrots is like Jurassic Park on overdrive. Smart critters, but kinda loud. Also have/care for 6 cats. One giant one is mine, hes the best, of course. Rescue from Central Coast up at Pismo Beach. Bird hunting is discouraged, rats and gopher hunting encouraged. They seem to get it. I dole it out heavy when they slip. Native bird feeders on our green house roof ensure good cat/bird separation. Didnt really intend to keep birds, just sorta happened.
The hawaii issue? Trap the cats, neuter and send them to Cal wineries, or ag areas for varmint control. Central coast is doing it already with feral colonies. They call them barn cats, cause they arent all that good with people and you just keep them outside. Cats are good night hunters, kinda lazy otherwise.
team bird here. I hate cats. look up Toxoplasmosis. on the way to red bluff I once ran over a feral cat’s head. took pictures for my cat loving friends.
Actually there was a transgender person on the Canadian Soccer team and they won the gold medal. I’m conflicted on that whole issue. I think everybody has the right to be happy in life and pursue their dreams but I’m not convinced yet that they don’t have an advantage.
I feel for that saffa chick semenya who was basically born a hermaphrodite, but if you’re trans by all means have the op, but competing against women when biologically you’re a man, that’s cheating.
Not one “this is for the birds” reference. I am ashamed of all of you who commented earlier.
the best thing I ever saw and lived about cats is that back in the 60’s and early 70’s , was the local fisherman from “The Bay” would use live cat in their crayfish/Lobster traps , as they would then get the biggest fish and the cat carcasses hold together for longer !
They eventually got caught stealing cats in Geelong , where they would shoot them , wound them , then take them back the cages…..got caught with over 30 domestic cats……
I was working at a skate company and all the other people that worked there kept going to a Chinese food all can eat buffet for lunch. I never went, and a few months later they got arrested for adopting cats from the local humane society and turning them into “broccoli beef” etc
When I was studying archaeology, our professor, who was a specialist on anatomy used to tell a story about going to “chew and spew” (chinese) restaurant in Melbourne and was poking through his food and went “aah! Cat!”. Found a cat bone. Kept eating 😀
One of the pitfalls of being an expert in anatomy, haha
But was it delicious?
I never ate there thank god, It was in Novato. The health department inspected the restaurant and the freezer as full of frozen cats. One of the guys I worked with who ate there and owned a pet cat said “I’m going to eat one of their babies”
how about some of the stories in the early days out of Bali…I was already a vego…..but didn’t eat the the beef Satay sticks……then they found all the dogs carcasses in the river near the resto….remember the crew I was with vomiting for days……ever see the Denpasar dogs?
Nah heard about it though.
We use possums (and turkeys, after breasting them out) for cray bait for that same reason, land animals and birds are a delicious luxury food to cray’s, compared with their normal diet. Dead ones though.
Putting a live cat in a cray pot sounds stupid (as well as cruel), and they’d drown by the time it got to the bottom. Probably bullshit anyway.
P.S.
Freshwater eels love them too…
Team Cat. Birds are prehistoric creepy cunts.
But if I was team bird, I’d post this meme. https://uploads.disquscdn.c…
As opposed to Aussie commenters, who are fountains of political erudition? Lol.
I am firmly in team gumboot.
Well Chas at least you used “exacerbate” correctly this time but Hawaiians call shave ice, shave ice, not shaved ice, ya touristy goober.
Your cute kitty musings are really an absolute gay delight but cats should not be allowed to roam free. I love cats but why do we have leash laws for dogs but allow fertile cats to roam free 24/7 and overpopulate the planet with strays?
We’re at the point here where massive feral cat colonies populate every corner of our islands. The devastation to native birds by cats is already well chronicled but another insidious and documented threat is that their kūkae carries the deadly single-celled parasite Toxoplasma gondii.
When a cat ingests infected prey or raw meat, the parasite is released from cysts into the cat’s digestive tract, where it reproduces and produces oocysts. Infected cats then excrete these oocysts in their feces by the billions where they end up in the watershed and the surrounding ocean water. Toxoplasmosis rarely causes clinical disease in cats but they are the definitive host for the parasite.
Over the past decades, toxoplasma infection has appeared in sea mammals including beluga whales, dolphins, sea lions and seals. It has also become a major cause of death in sea otters living off the coast of California.
In the last 2 decades at least 12 Hawaiian monk seals were killed by toxoplasmosis. In 2018, three Hawaiian monk seals on Oʻahu were found dead from toxoplasmosis within a single week. In 2020, a cluster of three additional cases occurred. It’s becoming increasingly clear to marine scientists conducting post-mortem examinations that Hawaiian monk seals are suffering from localized lethal outbreaks of this cat-borne disease.
Hawaiian monk seals are an endangered endemic mammal and are the official state mammal of Hawaii. There are less than 1200 remaining in the Hawaiian island archipelago. They are making a small comeback but toxo is one major reason for their early deaths. We don’t know what untold numbers of other Hawaiian marine mammals have succumbed too.
i hear you, TRUST. but c’mon, the very geologic and biologic natural history of your islands is of constant adaptation. how long the monks seals been there? and what population of fish they wiped out, bra? and shark they bring to grind ’em up, cuz? monk seals – the OGs – wasn’t born there they was flown there, bra. actual analysis of hsitory – both natural and human – reveals that it occured a second ago…not a month, year, decade, eon, or millenium. it occured and evolved before i finished typing this. hawai’i is the world’s most special place to observe because it’s the NEWEST place. it’s a hard sell to try to make one species’ briefly temporal reign more important than another’s, in the world’s most freshly “new” and isolated terrain
So if you lived in Hawaii you would have no problem introducing snakes that would decimate the entire bird population like what happened in Cozumel?
With all due respect, that’s a strawman argument. The cats are already here; the snakes aren’t. Living on these islands is a lot different than what one reads about or sees when vacationing here.
It’s just incorrect from a biological standpoint. Doesn’t matter where I live.
It does matter where you live. “Incorrect from a biological standpoint” is the notion that feral cats are decimating the native bird population. If you DID live here, you’d see -firsthand- that it simply isn’t true. Where i live, there are tons of native birds, and plenty of feral cats. The prey of choice for cats here is rodents. Our outdoor cat usually gets rats, mice, frogs, geckos, mongoose, and on very rare occasions, a bird (in this order).
Where did I say that feral cats are decimating the bird population?
If you read MC’s paragraph to any biology teacher they would think you have brain damage.
Dude that’s science by thought bubble that you are pedalling
You don’t understand simple ecology. The cats are introduced, monk seals are not, get it? And go fuck yourself with your attempt at cultural appropriation. It’s not bra, it’s brah and you shouldn’t say it anyway. I’d guess if you ever went there you’d start with an open hand to the ear and end out cold, escorted to the airport by the police. Fucking douchebag! Shut your fucking mouth when you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
cats also spread toxic plasmosis .. dolphins get it when cat shit washes into the ocean.fact
Fuck cunts who let their cats roam. Selfish.
Kill the cats and the mongoose.
What about the mongoose? Isn’t this a love triangle??
The Hawaii haole sugar barons in 1883 introduced mongooses from India to control rats in sugarcane fields on Maui, Molokai and O’ahu. While mongoose will eat rats, those idiots didn’t bother to research that rats are nocturnal and mongooses are diurnal. The result is that rats continued partying on sugar cane all night while the mongooses ate native birds instead. It’s a problem that still exists to this day.
Oh, I know. I used to see them scurry around under my feet at Cliffs or Lighthouse. All Hawai’i needs is the brown tree snake to make it a complete invasion.
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That’s it! Go a little further east and that area between Kaiko’s and Cliffs was my jam.
Needs more cane toads.
My cat wears a silly little bell to dampen his efforts in BIRD MASSACRE
I love him he is very cute
All the cats in Aus have Aids
Well not all, but a lot.
Why do all the animals in Australia have SDT’s?
I dunno
I’m not a local
They drink beer and go out partying at night. One thing leads to the next.. Chlamydia bears and AIDS cats.
And the Tasmanian Devils have herpes. I seem to remember Kim Kardashian visiting there recently.
Haha forgot about those little aggro lusty fuckers.
I’m sorry I missed her.. I know her step mummy is here now doing some celebrity bush show. She could go home infected with delta, herpes, black fungus, or worse!
ol Hotty has a fetish for anything that’s furry , fuzzy…it’s a pommy thing!
I mean good on them for having fun
Top cat!!
a feral cat adopted me a few years back, showing up each morning at my doorstep as i left for work. he was no bigger than my hand, literally his whole body was from finger tip to butt of palm. he kept showing up, so i started leaving him milk and tuna then eventually took him into the vet to get shots and become officially un-feral. he’s the coolest pet i’ve ever owned, zero-low maintenance, and a fucking savage hunter. TEAM CAT all the way