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Pip Toledo, hero to a nation of online warriors prepared to drip blood into their keyboards to salvage his honour. | Photo: @wsl

Brazilian surf journalist explains why Latin surf fans have turned to “gruesome” death threats and promises of swift retribution on sands of Saquarema following Filipe Toledo’s loss in El Salvador, “How many of those scary, hateful ultimatums were delivered? None!”

"Why the quickness of Brazilian surf fans to go nuclear? 'Cause they can! It feels so good!"

Got a message on Twitter last night.

“Julio, want to write a story for BeachGrit explaining why Brazilian surf fans are so, mmmmm, passionate I guess you could call it. (derisory pay rates.)”

Why do Brasileiros curse and threaten?

Born and raised in sunny Rio de Janeiro, I’ve been cursing since I could talk and being a Flamengo supporter, you learn to say many wonderful profanities to the referee’s mother at any given chance.

Like Italians, we used our hands a lot too when cursing, it makes our threats even more effective.

Not sure about it, but my guess is the first words you learn in any language are those bad words.

We believe you can’t really trust someone who don’t curse, nor the ones who don’t drink.

So, why do we go nuts on social?

Maybe because we like to mimic all the little things y’ all do in the message boards.

You have such a way with words, and they sound great when translated – both ways!

Yeah, of course, those scary, hateful threats are unacceptable. But how many of those ultimatums were delivered?

None.

Most likely, one of those keyboard warriors would buy you a beer not glass you.

And we do the same thing with our own, just ask Caio Ibelli. Kid gets swamped in hate.

If you ever get a chance to attend a football game in a stadium or to watch it a bar in one of our cities, you’ll see just how fired up we get.

And, shock, we’re a reflection of the polarisation not surfing.

BeachGrit versus Jonah Hill, ISA vs WSL, Brazil vs the Judges and so on.

Love is out, hate is what it’s about.

Not as much as in the US, Charlton Heston gun blazing in schools hate, but there’s a lot of repressed anger.

Don’t call us passionate, however, it’s an energy.

Why the quickness of Brazilian surf fans to go nuclear? ‘Cause they can!

Fire up! Death threats! Mutilate! Castration!

Just one click away, and, god, it’s so easy and feels so good…

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Chad Lebrone

I genuinely wonder what would happen if a bunch of 200 Aussies or Seppos congregated on the beach at this event, blaring “Land Down Under” or “Sweet Home Alabama” on repeat while waving flags and booing any surfer not from their homeland.

Because that is what Brazilians do at every other tour stop. And I don’t think they’d like their reflection if the mirror was placed in the sand at their own event. Would probably start a riot quicker than a properly scored wave.

Picard Madeoff

Will Sasha slide into her slot at Rio?

Dovakin

The US is safe.

Also the US: daily mass shootings, human trafficking and hate crimes.

Pauly Matt War-Shore

At least 8 cases of femicide per day too. Not exactly nirvana.

AI (for ever) .

Italo is my favourite surfer on tour and I’m backing him 167%

Everyone else can suck my sizeable cock.

Dovakin

Honestly, Brazzos and aussies are not that different.

Loud, fun, always drunk, always in packs when abroad.

AI (for ever) .

People who hate Brazilians have never, obviously, had the pleasure of there extended company.
It’s the mainland yanks who are full shit ( hi chas).

Dovakin

Nah, this ain’t it.

Keith Grace

The question remains… just how are Turps and Co. in the booth going to get through this tour stop with 24-7 wall of positive noise with all this going on around them?…

Picard Madeoff

I’d suggest replacing the 24-7 wall of positive noise with the Tower of Power, The Wrecking Crew or possibly The Swampers down in Muscle Shoals

Durban Poison

Haha, yes just empty threats to ignore like those against Dom Phillips and Bruno Pereira in the Amazon

Dovakin

LOL you are comparing organized crime to keyboard warriors.

MyGFsChinese

Do you like cars, airplanes, the Internet, phones, electricity, things like that? USA mother fucker! Wouldn’t trade them for a shaved asshole! Oh wait we invented laser hair removal too!

Edit:. And anal bleaching!

James Bickerton

A friend of mine was working on the filming of the original THOR film around 2010 and she informed that that was all everyone on set was talking about ?
I can possibly imagine if one worked in porn that anal bleaching might be an advantage ? …. but just can’t see what the advantages of a white bumhole could be . Later that year was partying with friends in the medical profession and one specialist informed me that it cost between 5 and 10 new surfboards to be a whiter than white bumhole

Dogsnuts

How many bumhole’s to whiten a surfboard though?

James Bickerton

Possibly a 3 Ring Circus ?

Dogsnuts

I’m happy with my unrinsed corn then.

James Bickerton

Children of the unrinsed Korn
Keep Uranus like Your Anus …
AUTHENTIC !

Picard Madeoff

I always contemplate this bizarre vanity when tossing salad or engaged in nose in the coals

Capt Sensible

Nothing like the look of a freshly done Brazilian.

"Helmets... Period."

I used to live in Lake Tahoe, where in the winters the big casinos would import a bunch of attractive 21-25 year old Brazilian women to work in the restaurants and nightclubs on temporary work visas.

Without fail, all of the ones I knew tried to get knocked up by and/or hitched to American guys in the few months that they were in the country, and a lot of them were successful – mostly to average or even kinda loser-ish guys. None of the women seemed to want to go back to Brazil for good, including the ones who had boyfriends or families there.

I always thought that was weird and that Brazil must have a pretty fucked up society in general if it’s women are that desperate to escape while their men are busy whining endlessly about nonsense like surf contest judging and soccer nonsense.

notsurfingtoday

One would think those women, that are ‘exported’ to foreign casinos and nightclubs, are not representative of an entire country.
And all they want is a ticket out of a fucked-up country, which is the legitimate aspiration of most of the world’s migrants – all the while carrying out essential tasks that locals believe are beneath them i.e. hanging around losers and eventually having sex with them.

"Helmets... Period."

>And all they want is a ticket out of a fucked-up country

Yeah thats what I was pointing out lol

Dovakin

I’m sure your very unbiased experience is an accurate representation of the situation of all women in Brazil… Lol

"Helmets... Period."

It’s one of many anecdotes supporting the inescapable fact that Brazil seems to largely be a shithole

disqus_00d1gIXedO

It’s an amazing country with wonderful people, and of course some societal ills left over from the days of colonialism. The Portuguese were already an empire in decline as far as Euro-colonial empires go. So I’d say that it’s true that some of Brazil’s post-colonial ills are ramped up to a higher degree than those of the former Spanish or English colonies of the New World. A shit hole it most assuredly is NOT. In terms of vibe and culture, I’d assuredly rather live there than in California if I could make the same living as I can in the States. I’d invite any and all Seppos and Aussies to go there and try to straight-faced-ly that you wouldn’t feel the same way. It is a rad place.

"Helmets... Period."

lol “muh colonialism” is massive cope used to excuse shitty, failed societies the world over where current inhabitants can’t make anything work and need a scapegoat to excuse their own failures. Simply put, if everything and everyone is so wonderful in Brazil, why are so many so desperate to leave?

I’ve heard enough from actual Brazilians to know the southern part of the country has it’s charms, the north is largely a crime-ridden dilapidated dump, and everyone who visits the U.S. doesn’t seem to want to leave. They do have some great surfers though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

disqus_00d1gIXedO

“a massive cope” is classic. why’d your people leave europe again? how do you feel about VALs and kooks occupying your lineups post-Covid????? how’d you feel about African and Latin American immigrants flooding your locality????? be truthful. imprinting fake-ass western euro values upon the lands your western euro people fled to in search of wealth and escape from western-euro actualities…well, that’d probably fry your fucking mind! shitty failed societies who’ve had all their resources cornered by an elite class beget similar vibes, add in some sort of euro supremacy…. = ? you’re an ignorant ill-informed cunt. i’d be happy to show you but like most thirsty ass deniers of actuality you wouldn’t drink from the trough.

disqus_00d1gIXedO

also, please produce one single example of an actual brazilian who would not rather make US/Euro money and financial opportunities who wouldn’t rather be in Brazil. how many Brazzos emigrate elsewhere so as only to claim Brazzo status for international competitions?

disqus_00d1gIXedO

also – have you ever been there? hahahahahahahahahahaha so do tell if so…

tim_nelsen

dirt-bike joe on tariffs & mining! bike trails?

ptsdsurfer

Most likely those are all drug/business related homicides, maybe some love related homicides too. Very little sport related. I’m with Julio on this one, very keyboard warrior activity by the brazzo fans.

Chief Hot stuff

Ease up on Hazza

Chief Hot stuff

I identify as one.
Tommorow ,who knows.

munnstrosity

Any takers on how many drop outs and no shows for this next event?
Name them all and win a t shirt?

Board Barnacle

Tyler’s ovaries.

James Bickerton

Slater’s foot , a disease which enables the former world champ to surf idyllic reef breaks in the South Pacific but hinders his ability to turn up and get his arse kicked by members of the WSL who were not born in the early 70s.

tim_nelsen

nice change-up, J…

ptsdsurfer

Go Texas!

tim_nelsen

longhorns or zz top (w/ jeffbeck)? circling the am fm radio listeners…buy tickets here…a quarter in the jukebox puts this in your earbuds…no quarter?

ptsdsurfer

Ha, that reminded me of a joke a brasileiro once told me about the people that do triathlon in Rio. They run to the beach, they swim and they go back home cycling.

janeausten

…hang on, hang on…’mericans don’t have exclusive rights to stupidity.

Capt Sensible

Thats Robbos job.

Chief Hot stuff

I knew youd back them

James Bickerton

Hot Stuff I finally worked out that you were Jordan Peterson , the American Satirist ( he funny ) and all your work has been to make us laugh .

Just Kidding because unlike you
HE AIN‘T MANLY !

Chief Hot stuff

Murdering infants is no joke buddy.

James Bickerton

Leaving them no access to housing , education or medical care after they are born , but access to guns …. is probably no laughing matter either .

Hope you have been getting some waves champ during the latest run of swells in our wonderful city ?

Chief Hot stuff

Oh boy, such bad luck to be concieved in the USA.
The horror.
Its a fate worse than death then is it?
Thats some shameful shit there jimmy.
Fuk surfing its too cold

James Bickerton

God , or perhaps Jack O‘Neill invented the wetsuit and too be honest the water in Sydney does not really get cold , in comparison to even Portugal in winter never mind France , Germany or Iceland .

I suppose it is the double standard ,which grates my soul, of forcing women in difficult situations to no choice but to give birth , ostracizing them directly after the birth as single mothers and then blaming their offspring for all the ills of the world , as if a minority of underprivileged children actually weighed more on the economy in western cultures than the stolen billions , tax free , fleeced by those on top of the pyramid , ensuring that the trickle only goes up …..

Remember to stop the meek inheriting the world is against the teachings of JESUS , which is relevant because those judgmental folk who are screaming from the pulpit , against abortion etc etc are not very Jesus like ?

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

All of this^^^ but you’re talking to a brainwashed zealot so they cant and wont get it.

Chief Hot stuff

Right on killa

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

How many times did you splooge in the shower or into a towel? Genocidal maniac.

Chief Hot stuff

Thers no forcing
Just responsiblity or lack of
Talk is cheap
Could you do it with your own hand.
or would you need someone else
Could you look at the mess and think
This is for the best
You have no idea about the truly disadvantaged and their ability to treasure all their children.
Its the priveleged fuks thatt kill their children.

James Bickerton

Ben Shapiro
Jordan Peterson
Rex Bex
Yawn …..

Chief Hot stuff

Thats what i thought

James Bickerton

I’m in favor or tradition. I’m respectful of and a lover of the tradition. There’s no deconstruction without the memory of the tradition. I couldn’t imagine what the university could be without reference to the tradition, but a tradition that is as rich as possible and that is open to other traditions, and so on… I think that people who try to represent what I’m doing or what so called “deconstruction” is doing, as, on the one hand, trying to destroy culture or, on the other hand, to reduce it to a kind of negativity, to a kind of death, are misrepresenting deconstruction. Deconstruction is essentially affirmative. It’s in favor of reaffirmation of memory, but this reaffirmation of memory asks the most adventurous and the most risky questions about our tradition, about our institutions, about our way of teaching, and so on.
Jacques Derrida

Chief Hot stuff

Its a big day for the defenceless!!!

BLACK IRISH

You believe your own Bullshitness. Killing a baby n the whom is what it is. Fuck all your other implications
Call it what it is and claim it happily and boldly. Why the anger?

James Bickerton

My friend , I believe that you are angry …..

BLACK IRISH

Obviously your “ belief system is flawed “

James Bickerton

My friend
John 8:7 let us pray

When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone(A) at her.”

BLACK IRISH

Mi amigo,
Appealing to scripture? Very nice. Is scripture the basis for your “ belief system “, or just an arrow in your quiver of moral historical references?
Colossians 3:23
“And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men“
Maybe abortionists can apply this scripture as they cut and chop babies to pieces.
Psalm 118:24
“This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.“
I’d rather save my arms for wave catching than throwing stones (Irish Confetti)

James Bickerton

Turning the other cheek and not judging others are supposed to be the pillars of Christianity …? the quantum leap which sets it apart from Old Testament Eye for an Eye and a tooth for a tooth ?
It is only relevant as those who are depriving women of the liberty to choose , Christian Conservatives , seem to have forgotten what Jesus Christ ( through the work of Mathew Mark Luke and John ) was trying to offer ?

BLACK IRISH

Judging and stating facts are very different. Definitely factual that most abortions consists of chopping a living baby to pieces.
Forgiveness should always be attainable. Maybe showing school age children a real abortion would help educate to the reality of the procedure and slow the flames of ignorant rhetoric and violence?
You requesting forgiveness implies you have a belief system with absolute moral rights and wrongs.
If an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure why not err on the side life and beauty where forgiveness would be seldom needed?
I would think Christians would hate the sin and Love the sinner and have no problem forgiving the act of abortion especially when obtained in the purposely shadowed scientific evidence propagated by the current culture.
If it’s a female baby being murdered doesn’t that count as woman’s right’s??Her right to life and choice to live is not honored.

James Bickerton

The only freedom which deserves the name is that of pursuing our own good in our own way, so long as we do not attempt to deprive others of theirs, or impede their efforts to obtain it. Each is the proper guardian of his own health, whether bodily, or mental or spiritual. Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the rest.
John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

BLACK IRISH

Simple, you don’t see the baby as a human with those rights.

James Bickerton

Look Blacky
We are never going to agree … that’s ok but please don’t take the right of women to use birth control … ok

BLACK IRISH

Never Bicky!!

James Bickerton

And Above all remember the essential

Nature Permits
Culture Forbids …..

There is no such thing as an unnatural act

BLACK IRISH

We could argue about the judging of a surf contest because style etc…is subjective . Chopping up children is always bad style on my scorecard.

Dovakin

Good thing embryos are not infants.

Chief Hot stuff

Keep tellin yself that

disqus_00d1gIXedO

unless they’re first peoples, right? then it’s fun and games and nation-building, right?

Chief Hot stuff

fuk would i know

disqus_00d1gIXedO

that’s right, claim ignorance and reap benefits. right on point!

Chief Hot stuff

Lets hold hands while we do it

disqus_00d1gIXedO

Can we touch tips?


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