“We believe that life is God-ordained and God is the author and finisher of every life. No matter if at the beginning or at the end."
Give and inch and they’ll take a mile or so the old proverb goes.
It ain’t a secret that the pretty surf town of San Clemente, home to the cream of American surfing, including Kolohe Andino and Griffin Colapinto as well as “cool mom that will let everyone drink at the house as long as no one’s driving” Matt Biolos, leans to the right politically.
It’s changing, howevs.
In 1980, over seventy percent of its residents voted Republican, plunging to fifty-three in the Trump-Biden showdown two years go.
Still, the joint is redder than most.
And, ever since Roe v Wade got iced, giving states the right to allow, or more pointedly, disallow, abortions, San Clemente’s pro-lifers have come out swinging.
Knoblock wants the City Counsel to “considers life to begin at conception” and to push back against Planned Parenthood health centres or anywhere the unborn are killed.
Per the LA Times, “There probably isn’t a family in America that hasn’t been impacted by abortion,” Knoblock said. “The [resolution] will get people thinking about what society has been doing for 50 years.”
San Clemente’s mayor Gene Walsh, also red, said he was “appalled” by the resolution, “It appears to me to be a document that could have been written by a Taliban tribunal, and I’ll say that as a conservative, pro-life Republican.”
Still, the mayor says “there is no issue that’s more important to me than protecting the unborn”.
The resolution, even if passed, is mostly symbolic.
“The fact is, California is a state where abortion is legal and there’s nothing the San Clemente City Council can do about that regardless of whether we are pro-life or pro-choice,” said Walsh.
Knoblock’s retort is that the rez is necessary ’cause it puts pressure on the state to change the law.
“The cities and counties in the state are part of that process,” Knoblock said. “I just wanted our voice to be heard from San Clemente.”
Listen to a Mother’s voice of Reason.
Ask a mother if she regrets giving birth to her children.
Ask a mother if she regrets chopping up her child?
Are you reasonable to accept he truth?
Since Scott Bass of the Board Room Show and Spit canceled the entire state of Utah with this beautifully penned letter to the Salt Lake Tribune, will he also publicly cancel San Clemente?
https://www.sltrib.com/opin…
Does Scott Bass travel to Fiji, Indo, El Salvador, Costa Rica, the Maldives etc and spend his surf dollars… All have strict abortion laws unless it’s to save the mother or child.Nice virtue signaling and situational ethics
San Clemente is already a gun sanctuary city.
Also, San Clemente doesn’t even have a hospital, so there’s that. Why have a hospital when you can pray to God for recovery for illness or injury?
https://www.sanclementetime…
I’d go one step further… Aristotle said “Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the foundations of the man” Get the hammer out at 7 to cull of the likes of @disqus_yQYgpld9AI:disqus
sterilization seems to me the logical compromise.
hehehe…. Knoblock.
So…. he belives that if that if a group of crazy lunatics broke into his house raped and beat his wife and daughters leaving them preganant, that would God ordained. Cool. Be a good test of his conviction being a father and grandfather to those god has blessed upo him.
Sounds like he needs a Knoblock
What’s this got to do with Zeke Lau?
Chas and DR should start a church or at least a Cult. Great tax breaks and the dribble would continue for another generation.
To think of all the world titles San Clemente would have brought home had abortion always been illegal.
These right wing, Christian conservatives man. Going on about how abortions are the reason families are fractured and why people go on to shoot up a school. Do they ever think about how the industrial military complex makes it far too ok to ship the youth off to go fight all over the planet? Generations of men getting killed or coming back extremely fucked up for life, most of them from Bible thumping red states. All in the name of fighting for our freedoms. So Christian! Yeah, and abortions are the reason for societies ills.
So many ways to hunt hypocrisy
Griffin Colapinto is not “right leaning”.
American Conservatives: The government can’t tell me what to do with my body. I’m not getting the Covid vaccine. My body, my choice.
Also American Conservatives: The government can tell you what to do with your body. You’re not getting an abortion. Your body, my choice.
Choice is Freedom, literally
https://youtu.be/975_NmMskLM
WHOA! When did the Bible Belt relocate from Oklahoma to San Clemente? Will that Jesus fella bless the waves when the WSL comes to town?
I wonder what Jesus actually said about abortion…
Oh yeah.
Nothing.
He was too busy protecting firearms.
and gerrymandering
He said something about “Blessed are the meek, blessed are the big nosed.” But yeah, nothing about abortions.
Doesn’t even matter what the Bible says about abortion, America has separation of church and state, but apparently that doesn’t matter to right wing “constitutionalists.”
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.”
Uhh, I think he said something about thou shall not kill, you can hear a baby’s heartbeat as early as 5 weeks after conception.
Life – including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.
Fairly sure the “thou shall not kill” thing is old testament, and the old testament penalty for striking a pregnant woman and causing a miscarriage was to pay a fine to the husband—not death, which was the penalty for killing.
It wasn’t until the 19th century that the idea that abortion was prohibited by either the old or new testament started to emerge.
https://uploads.disquscdn.c…
SUMMARY AND CONCLUSIONS
“A textual analysis of our passage suggests that it discusses a ‘live’ premature birth for which a fine is to be paid. If harm or death comes to either mother or fetus, the lex talionis is to be invoked. Because the fetus is regarded on a par with its mother, this passage protects the sanctity of life for the unborn and gives no support whatever for the practice of abortion”.
Ron du Preez, D.Min., is an associate professor of religion at Southern College, Collegedale, Tennessee.
” associate professor of religion”
So… not science. No data apart from a ‘Chinese Whispered’ and repeatedly heavily edited work of fiction from the Bronze Age about magical thinking.
Sure. OK.
Medical Fact, a heartbeat can be heard as early as 5 weeks after conception.
No one’s denying that Sam.
And you my dear friend, are prime example of why abortion is sometimes the kindest choice for everyone
And the fact that ‘you’ are here and ‘alive’, my dear friend, is a prime example that abortion is not a wise decision.
“Don’t worry, you can voluntarily “post birth” abort yourselves thru a shot.” ~ Anthony F.