"That’s like buying a house and then asking for payments to be paid for by government….."
A debate is not well and truly underway until surfing’s great polemicist Joel Tudor swings in. And let us examine the United States’ president Joe Biden and his continued forgiveness of student loans. Yesterday, the leader of the free world announced he was erasing another $7.7 billion of debt. This followed $7.4 billion wiped off the books in April.
“From day one of my Administration, I promised to fight to ensure higher education is a ticket to the middle class, not a barrier to opportunity,” Biden gamely declared. “I will never stop working to cancel student debt – no matter how many times Republican elected officials try to stop us.”
While maybe not a Republican elected official, surf funnyman Jonathan Wayne Freeman posted a to-camera video to his much-loved Instagram page wherein he described a boy, presumably himself, who went to a college he couldn’t afford yet still signed on the dotted line, accepting low interest loans. Now, while he seemed to be sarcastically happy about the relief, he also slammed Biden teaching youngsters that irresponsibility is chill or some vague boomer thing.
Joel Tudor, always ready, immediately responded, “That’s like buying a house and then asking for payments to be paid for by government…..aka hard working tax payers – kiss my ass Joe Biden.
Shockingly, not everyone was won over.
Movelikelove declared, “That is not the same thing at all That is a completely illogical equivalent. You can look up what logical fallacies you just used I’m not going to teach you for free given the content here. I’m a psychotherapist in my job benefits my community. Me buying a house isn’t benefiting the community. I can’t believe I had to explain that to you.”
Sargentscrapbook added, “How is that in any way similar? Seriously…you portray yourself as informed and knowledgeable. What regulations have been repealed and abused regarding compounded interest/inflated and predatory loan practices with in the higher education industry? How does the percentage of tax money spent of student debt interest forgiveness compare to the percentage of tax money spent on corporate and religious tax breaks? I know you’re not going to respond with any sort of rational, informed or practical thought. Don’t bother.”
Robmayers wondered, “Why get worked up about this? Instead of people paying the banks they now have some freed up money to buy things like your surfboards instead.”
And, lastly, going after both Tudor and J. Wayne Freeman himself, andrewlive stated, “I always love the Joe Rogan, 19-yr old bro, low-information political takes you have. But I love more the low-information libertarian surf mongoloid responses you get. Keep these brilliant, well-researched takes coming!”
Do you have any thoughts on student loan debt forgiveness? Please share.
Who’s load makes your grin the largest.?
No dribble or saliva out of this mouth at least in the hours I’m awake.. I’m all for making the the middle class stronger and the largest percentage of our population. Could give two fucks which color of the isle it takes! As far as dribble out of the other orifice that is gross and bet you’ll make sure it doesn’t hit the ground with your blue or red lips..
Most importantly, the forgiveness is generally for public employees and those serving public good for 10 or more years. You know, because teachers get paid absolutely shit in the USA.
Ive been paying off my masters loans since 07. Between years of forbearance and deferment I’ve started a business, played the financial game, used debt consolidation and transfers and made it work. I have a nice life. It’s a fucked predatory system.im almost free of it.
We still tell all the kids to go to college and avoid telling them the truth that being a tradesman is often quicker and more fulfilling.
I’m more pissed at the obvious tactic to get people excited to vote, and the hoodwink news highlights about the forgiveness. 90% of borrowers will see no relief. For those that do…good on em. Being pissed at hard working students but not corporate schools and banks is a pretty stupid and hypocritical way to live
I completely structured the last ten years of my life around paying off $100k in student loans I used to achieve my Masters in Nursing. In the meantime I’ve watched all my disposable income get sucked up by completely unnecessary inflation.
The thought that some privileged kid could spend $100k and four years drunk getting Cs for a degree in psychology or sociology and get it “forgiven” is disgusting and idiotic. It’s both a moral hazard and economic suicide.
It is a redistribution of burdens of the free choices of one group onto another group by coercion- both through taxes and through monetized government debt (inflation). The government does not have its own money. The central bank moving decimal points does not create wealth, goods or services.
Inflation is a violently regressive tax on lowest quintile wage earners that shifts the burden of monetized national debt away from those who profited off it financially and politically, on to those least able to bear it. The wealthy derive their cash flow from assets, not wage income, so inflation doesn’t hurt them, it helps them.
Zillow put out a report this year that home buyers need to earn 80% more income than they did in 2020 to be able to afford a home.
This is what end stage democracy looks like- the kleptocracy bribing the public with their future earnings.
disagree with you on a few points but overall you’re spot on carnal
Conservatives loved to be fucked by the government or any grifter.
But they really hate it when someone tries to ease the burden of predatory lending, which was only legal because some massive financial institution bought off politicians and laughed all the way to their million dollar penthouses and Hawaiian houses.
Is this fuckwad making videos about the billions of dollars in totally unnecessary PPP loans that were written off?
I fuckin hate all of these neoliberal politicians but when someone comes along and starts relieving predatory debt from those who deserve it, brings down the cost of life-saving drugs by a huge amount then decriminalises cannabis then that person, and his team, gets a tip of the cap from me. Why didn’t all the cunts before this cunt just legalise and regulate cannabis? Because they’re cunts.
Joel learned jujutsu so he could surf Pipe without getting his ass kicked cause he has a really big mouth that people like to punch….
average salaries = to years of experience
Average Professor: $120K annual
Average Police Officer: $78k annual
Average Soldier: $56K annual
Hey Lucy, something wrong here.
While education should be free in the first place I’m going out in a limb here to suggest that Joel’s level of education is limited to creative joint rolling techniques.
if education were free there’d be no educators.
Huh!!
when I went to college, I called my parents and told them I was enrolling.
I said it was a bit expensive and that I could use a bit of assistance with the fess.
they asked me: who’s going to college?
I responded: me
they asked: and who will benefit from your college education?
I responded: me
They said: then you should pay for it. You’ll appreciate it much more and work much harder if you’ve got skin in the game.
so fuck em’.
why should I pay for these twats whose college education will not benefit me in any way?
More people accessing a better education for less cost will benefit you, your community and your Country.
how? I recently had to hire tradies for a new project. 11 of 12 of them are over 50 yrs. old. half of them over 60.
we had a chat about why there are no young folk in the trades anymore. they said its actually a crisis situation. no young folk want to learn and work as builders, electricians, plumbers, etc.
currently there is a massive shortage of medical professionals, doctors and nurses where we live and a shortage of police and Ems.
most young folk these days want to be tiktok sensations or lawyers.
friend of ours kid just graduated ems/firefighers school. there were five in his graduating class. he paid for the education himself.
please tell me how these “poor” children that demand our money to support their liberal studies programs are benefitting our community, our country….or me.
….and what of those that decide not to go to college, and instead enter the workforce straight out of high school as farmers and fisherman who provide the food on your table? builders, etc. who make your life functional and convenient and contribute to their community immediately without partying for four years, whinging and milking the system?
why should they pay for these lazy twats, when they’ve already invested their sweat equity?
going to Uni is a choice. you want to go, ay for it yourself.
you don’t want to pay for your education, then get your ass to work like the rest of us.
It’s about not getting into debt and being paid a living wage to get qualified/ get by whether you’re a plumber, farm worker or a Doctor.
And you’ve got the wrong “they” paying for it in the first place, let alone “they” paying 850 Billion towards toy solider antics.
I went to auto racing school.
Should the American citizens pay me back for going to auto racing school?
So far Biden has given away over $160 billion in complete student loan forgiveness and a total of over $660 billion in interest waivers, etc. All against the order of the Supreme Court, which makes him a tyrannical dictator. King Biden actually said he doesn’t care what the Supreme Court says.
One thing you may be interested in knowing is that taxes in America were initiated to pay for The Civil War, then to support a military defense force. In other words, “soldier antics” is exactly what taxes were supposed to be for, although I completely disagree with paying for all these bullshit foreign wars.
Americans were never meant to pay income tax to support it’s non-working and uneducated masses.
Tyrannical dictator over cancelling student loan.
Thats hilarious.
in America, Congress (the peoples representatives) must vote on and authorize any and all funding for all outgoing tax revenues.
Biden did not get congressional approval and instead is eliminating student loan debt against the will of the people.
When the case was brought before the Supreme Court, the court said it was not legal or constitutional to pay off peoples student loans without approval by Congress.
Joe Biden completely disregarded the Supreme Court order to cease and desist and in fact even stuffed it in the Supreme Court judges faces at the SOTU speech, and told the court he’ll do what he wants, and brags about defying the court.
You can say, oh it’s just student debt, but when you completely defy the Supreme Court and skirt Congressional approval, and say fuck off I’ll do what I want because I’m President; that’s tyranny.
You honestly have no idea what you’re talking about, but it’s a bitch for a self righteous cunt to just admit he’s ignorant.
Gladly ignorant of US politics, but keep on mansplaining👍🏻
I accept your apology
Did Joel graduate High School?
supply and demand
They must have figured you not going pay that nut back working as “Badge Boy”.. Better for them to right it off balance sheet.
For once I agree with Jiu-Jitsu Joel. I should borrow from the government to buy a Ferrari or a yacht then fail to make payments and see what happens. Wait, I already know what would happen.
Getting an education shouldn’t be on par with buying luxury toys.
if you believe the myth(s), the education you pay fortunes for is supposed to provide you with the income to buy “luxury toys”.
If the gov didn’t back the loans college would be way cheaper.
yep. spot on.
using my money to pay someone else’s debt is thievery help police police help
I don’t see why not.
Almost as bad as paying someone good money to ride a longboard
You deserve a break.
Fucking stoners , who make their money off sponsors , never really worked in their lives……and people listen to them……bit like Trump being a grifter , and now ?
So how about the point he made? No comment?
Ok , yeah ….giving a fiscal break to students …..to try and give a better education to kids so it’s not based on how much money…seems fine to me!
Gee maybe the government shouldn’t have let the banks write high interest student loans in the first place
maybe the government should have stayed the fuck out of it completely.