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Surfers took note, along with most others, yesterday, when news began trickling out that a man with a gun had been arrested hiding in the bushes at Donald Trump’s Palm Beach golf course whilst the former president was on the links. Their interest turned to shock, this morning, when it was revealed that the potential assassin was living on Oahu’s windward side.
Ryan Routh, 58, who lived in Kaaawa with his son where they had a business building sheds, had moved to the island in 2018. The small town of 1,200 souls is a quick twenty-minute drive to the haloed North Shore though there are no reports that Routh was an avid big wave surfer or even a smaller wave one, maybe preferring the waves near Haleiwa or down on the south shore.
He was passionate about the struggle in Ukraine, spending time in the country after penning, “I am coming to Ukraine from Hawaii to fight for your kids and families and democracy.. I will come and die for you.”
He did not die, made his way to the Sunshine State and is now the center of a strange and unfolding story, confusing to his Kaaawa neighbors, surfers worldwide and his son, who texted CNN, “I don’t know what’s happened in Florida, and I hope things have just been blown out of proportion, because from the little I’ve heard it doesn’t sound like the man I know to do anything crazy, much less violent.”
The BBC is reporting, that Mr. Routh will appear in court later today. He has a fairly long history of arrests in North Carolina, where he lived before moving to the Aloha State, including one for owning a fully automatic machine gun. It must be noted that he gave a neighbor a Hawaiian shirt as a gift for helping him pack up his house.
While not the postcard paradise many imagine it to be (buy here), who would have ever predicted Oahu as ground zero of political extremism?
Certainly not surfers.
It’ll be an unpaid position. That should eliminate Washington DC bureaucrats
One less nut job in the Islands
(just another 500,000 or so to go
My mom blocked him on “Nextdoor” for being a cringey creep… more as the story peeks through the bushes…
which brings up good point.
Hypothetically, how many military or police do you think would gun down their fellow citizens (en masse) if ordered to do so by the U.S. government….especially if their fellow citizens were equally armed?
Automatic weapons on Florida golf courses is vintage ‘Murica
I’ll shoot him after this 70 y.o. glass of cognac and my p.a. blows me
(ends up drinking too much cognac, drowns after passing out face-down in a shallow bog)
Looks Hawaiian
The other I burst into tears over this story:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/22/when-globally-famous-gay-penguin-sphen-died-in-sydney-his-partner-began-to-sing
Not exagerating at all. I’ve become very prone to such teary moment these days. All my armour is shucked off to the side of the road. Feels honest.
The right to bear arms, and gorilla hand ashtrays.
you should read a bit about my ancestors.
you may want to get a little history lesson.
how many people have died since Nuland Inc. scuttled the Ukraine Russia cease fire and end to the war in 2022 because: “Western powers didn’t like conditions that would have limited Ukraine’s military arsenal”
you really need to watch this smug bitch talking about when Nuland In. Ukraine not to negotiate a deal so the U.S. and Nato countries could keep sending weapons to Ukraine.
Ain’t her children dying in the streets.
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/victoria-nuland-ukraine-peace-deal
Back when old mate had the first shot at Trumpy I recall Alex Jones saying 3 things were going to happen, and so far, eerily, the nutter has been correct.
1) there would be a mass hacking event – the July crowd strike Microsoft outage was a week after
2) “they” would continue to have shots at Honest Donnie. Check.
3)… a nation wide/world wide “brown out”. No, not a massive shitting event. A power outage most likely on Election Day, rendering any result up for debate by both sides and ongoing tensions ensue.
The merit of AJ is dubious, but he has been right about a bunch of shit between his wild takes and sales of very strange pills and potions. Be very interesting if the power goes kaput on the Election Day, who wins? Does anyone? Who is in charge? Is anyone? More questions than answers!!
Nah, he hasn’t been right about shit. If you actually listen to everything in context. He ‘predicts’ obvious things, along with a bunch of other things and then chooses edits that reflect whatever happens.
Examples: He predicted Russia would not invade Ukraine, when it happened he said that it would be over in a week, he initially said that Zelensky was a traitor to the Ukraine people and would hand over Ukraine to the Russians, he has subsequently said that Zelensky is part of the New World Order.
Anything he has said that turned out to be correct is purely based on luck and there is very little that has turned out correct.
If any context is required, look at the details of the Sandy Hook trials. He was found guilty by default. In essence, rather than fighting the defamation charges with the ‘truth defence’, he chose to continuously ignore court orders to provide evidence he claimed exonerated him. Even when confronted with phone records of conversations he said he didn’t have, (sent to the plaintiffs lawyers inadvertently), which clearly showed he had been withholding pertinent evidence, he still maintained his lies. Lies that caused significant harm to the plaintiffs as proven by their evidence.
Even his 9/11 predictions were more or less verbatim predictions of his hero, Bill Cooper, who wasn’t around to point that out because, unlike Jones, Cooper actually had the courage of his convictions and died in a police shootout.
Jones is no more than a grifting fraud, scamming the gullible into buying hugely marked up supplements.
Fuck him and pity those who he grifts from. While supporting those affected by his lies.
https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/
https://knowledgefight.com/
But the gay frogs are gay,.
Ironically, not the most wrong he has been. The frogs would change gender based on environmental conditions. Those conditions were being affected by the introduction of chemicals from agricultural runoff (I think). So not turning them gay, but trans, which Jones hates even more than gay frogs…
You are way more across old Alex than I am. I very much take many grains of salt with his musings. I believe you don’t get me wrong. But still, two from 3. I still ask, what happens if the power goes out on election day? chaos for sure right?
Chaos is pretty much guaranteed because Trump has programmed it in to the system. Jone and his ilk are better served with Trump losing rather than in power because it is easier to point out the faults of others rather than the failings of their god-king.
If you’re going to go the argument of ‘Jones was right’, you also have to account for the 993 times out of the thousand he was laughably wrong. And question when he claims to be right; he doesn’t provide any evidence beyond “we have it here on tape somewhere”. He predicted truck bombs, bombs on Trump’s plane, chemical attacks, etc. And when anything he says doesn’t happen, he either ignores it completely or says that by him putting it out there stopped it from happening. And then moves on to the next talking point.
This is a guy who on his show talks about getting “downloads from god” that allow him to see “the globalist’s plan”. About fighting the literal Devil and demons. Who can in one show complain about Putin being part of the globalist agenda and then being the victim of it. About killing people by “stomping their guts out”, but most likely it was a dog(s) he killed.
If predicting that more nutjobs would take a shot is the gold standard, than I’m pretty fucking psychic myself. If there is a ‘power outage’ on election day, that isn’t readily explainable, covers the whole country and leads to nationwide furore, then I am willing to stand corrected.
The wider media coverage of him treats him like a joke, without any more than a superficial glossing over, allowing the craziness to slide by without any critical analysis. Nothing he says would, or should, be taken seriously if this was understood…
Former CIA targeter sounded alarm on this guy in 2023 because of his activities in Ukraine
https://townhall.com/columnists/larryprovost/2024/09/16/exclusive-former-cia-targeter-sounded-alarm-about-would-be-trump-assassin-n2644852
I wonder how many other potential assassins the CIA has ?
a great question as all the “Freedom Fighters” that went to Ukraine are on the State Department, CIA and FBI radars….and would have all been interviewed by one of the spook groups.
so, the question is: would it be a far stretch for the spooks to take an unhinged nutbag, fill his brain full of hate for Trump and turn him into an assassin?
More questions:
After the first Trump assassination attempt, How did this guy get so close to Trump with a long-range rifle at a location he is not familiar with at an event that was not on the Secret Service schedule, referred to as an OTR (off the record) which very few agents know about in advance?
two assassination attempts in 2 months where the gunmen had unexplainable close access to Trump.
I know you hate the guy, but do you really want to see him killed?
I don’t hate ya mate , and its not too late, to fall for the bait….ah the things I say just come out that way!
From my perspective assassinations are part of the American Political system….there is a history of it and it still goers on today, Don has projected violent outcomes and talked a violent narrative,,,he who lives by the sword dies by the sword……..
conspiracy’s, always was always will!
I have bongo’s
Bongo’s what?
Did he drop it somewhere?
A large brown paper bag stapled shut.
He asked me to put it in my safe and don’t look inside.
Bongo should be paroled in about 5 years.
BONGO FURY! ~zappa
Were he to be killed could possibly lead to a negative political outcome for the Democrats.
The preferred option would be Americans making the choice for a reasonable and rational, although imperfect candidate over a convicted felon, serial philanderer, proven liar, friend of dictators, inciter of government overthrow, narcissistic, temperamental, self-obsessed, self-interested, fragile person with a proven record of chaotic administration. And the losing side accepting defeat gracefully.
If he wins, he has stated he wants an administration of reprisals. If he loses, the chances of a graceful defeat are minimal. The future for the USA is bleak either way…
so do you actually plug the AV cords into your ears or tap a vein and mainline the coaxial cable when The View’s on?
Was’ up Woopi?
Yeah, righto mate. Ad hominem attack. Tell me where anything I said is not a potential outcome…
Ha! How psychic do you reckon the shooter would have to be to note that Trump was at Mar-al-Psycho and would be hitting the golf course on Saturday some time?
this is so two weeks ago, but you’re fixated.
to your question: how Psychic do you have to be….to camp out for 12 hours at the exact place that all the photo journalists shoot from to get shots off Trump….knowing that on that specific day, no photographers would be there.
How psychic do you have to be to, even though you do not live anywhere near Florida, and are butt broke, you get a car, secure and an untraceable SKS and
are routed to justhappen to find the closest location Trump would be to the fence line, without any prior knowledge of the location?How psychic do you have to be to consider that a guy who went to Ukraine to act as a mercenary, was recruiting pakistan and afghan fighters, a convicted gun crime felon who’s on the CIA and FBI watchlist, and has “zero funds” in his bank account, offers a $150k bounty on Trump…..may have been a pawn in a greater conspiracy?
this was a hit job, planned by outside influences, one of many.
Fuck me mate. The art of being a conspiracy fantasist/enthusiast is being able to piece together meaningless bits of trivia to construct vague possibilities, but that is Picasso like skill bro.
How about ‘bloke with long history of mental illness fixates on killing a popular politician for historical relevance and revenge on perceived wrongs through life’?
Not as many as Iran
I think the Iranians have been getting a taste of their own lately…??
Of course. Israel has more than Iran.
not sure if it’s a numbers game…….Israel/USA have a superior force!
It’s always a numbers game. While Iran often deploys honeypots to recruit the downtrodden citizenry of their foes, Israel deploys their numbers in much more creative manners
I guess what I am saying is that the quality of the Israeli/US ‘s intelligence/expertise overshadows Iran’s
Like I said, the creativity of Israeli intelligence is off the charts.
They hacked cellphones and pagers of targets and somehow once having hacked the device, they got the device to. …wait for it… EXPLODE!!!!
(I know you dislike Red State, but you just gotta read this shit)
https://redstate.com/smoosi…
https://youtu.be/iIpfWORQWhU?feature=shared
Doesn’t make sense. This site has taught me that Hawaii is Trump heartland. More questions than answers.
I’ve know a few people that lived in Kaaawa. Meth is the string that ties them together.
I thought it might have been hits to the head from fist or coral
Brah! We no mo get meth hea. Only get ICE cuz.
Fast Eddie, is that you?
No I’m not from Jersey
That’s good news.
There is literally nothing worse than being from New Jersey.
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The last Martyr was in a BlackRock video and this guy was in a video about Ukraine.
MK Ultra clearly didn’t teach tradecraft.
Well, I’m looking foreword to more binary thinking and finger pointing after this. Hopefully we can all hyper focus on this event, two party national politics and other events we can barely effect. God bless America.
Please try to be sympathetic. If you resided in a shithole state like California, you might want the distraction that time-wasting politard posting provides, too!
Beautifully put, blanket statements about entire states are very nice addition to my screed.
But of course!
Although of insufficient size to cover the entire state, said blanket is large enough to cover all of its urban and suburban areas, with room to spare.
>I am coming to Ukraine from Hawaii to fight for your kids and families and democracy.. I will come and die for you
Every time I hear about one of the Ukrainian war volunteers there is this barely covered subtext of something in their past they’re so ashamed of and that their only hope of redemption is becoming a war hero or dying. Like this guy: https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/senior-military-officer-who-retired-went-to-ukraine-now-charged-with-sexual-assault-1.5948424
U.S. has been pushing this BS Russia bad, Trump’s a Putin Puppet, We love Ukraine crap for so long that nutbags get this shit in their heads and believe it’s their fight.
then you have Trump say he’s gonna end the war that this lunatic thinks is his end all be all of heroism, his purpose in life….and there you go.
I need to kill the guy that’s gonna end my war…..
or on larger scale, the grifter politicians and military industrial complex…Trumps gonna end our boondoggle.
My heart breaks for the people of Ukraine and Russia dying for no reason in a war that was so easily preventable had the U.S. chilled on the rhetoric and negotiated a resolution.
nah, Russia not bad, ol Pooty bad..,…ol dumpy loves pooties booty……
ol chumpy will just end aid to the Uke’s …because as Mc masters says in his new book…….World leaders think trump is a chump because you flatter his ego , and he’s all yours!
a great surfboard shaper…..and beat poet.
You are a man of many talents, Rootus Brutus
that’s me rapping, heading to hip hop as Australia is now the world number 1# Kangaroo with a hip and a hop!
Oh no. Oh dear…..Ray GUN?
thought guns are illegal in Rooland
see Raygun is the most famous Hip Hop act in the world……guns are just really hard to get here, strict on licenses……but on the black market, hand guns are still pretty easy to get , but if ya get caught , heavy!!
Russia has agency here.
Would we be justified if we invaded Cuba or Venezuela because they’re cozy with our adversaries?
would we be justified if Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Mexico and Canada all formed a “Defense Against America Alliance” and all lined up on our southern or northern border against us?
NATO started with 12 counties and now has 32.
one qusetion: is it better for the U.S to be friends with Russia or enemies?
This obviously never would have happened if there were more assault rifles in America and fewer laws restricting their ownership. Clearly that would have made it harder for a felon to obtain an AK-47 and attempt to assassinate Trump, because he would have been deterred from doing so in the first place.🤣😂🤪
The irony writes itself….
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221
It was an illegally obtained, illegal weapon with a filed serial number.
Criminals gonna criminal.
There hasn’t been an explanation as to how he got this, but I agree that it would be illegal whatever the reason.
But was it legally produced and manufactured?
Thats an interesting question.
the weapon itself would not be illegally manufactured nor is the weapon the criminal.
so the question is, was it illegally trafficked as are many weapons used in crimes
my point exactly—criminals gonna criminal, but the gun certainly helps.
The more assault rifles that are manufactured and sold to non-military and non-LEOs, the greater the chances that one of them falls into the hands of someone who should not have them.
I get your point.
the only people that should be allowed to have guns should be the Police and Military, so the citizens have to do what the fuck the politicians tell them to do….or die.
certainly this great idea never occurred to George Washington and America’s founding fathers.
Would have to say, in comparison there’s a lot less dead people under a gun owning society than not.
First move to totalitarianism is a propaganda media, next is gun confiscation.
Was’ up KIM?
How’s the surf in North Korea?
tell me where in the second amendment it says, “so that the government needs to be afraid of its people, the right to bear arms shall not be infringed”?
It doesn’t, because it expressly dealt with a need that is no longer applicable—we didn’t have a standing army and you weren’t going to be able to raise an army on short notice if we were attacked/invaded. But we don’t operate in the militia model any longer.
There were also limitations on the types of things you could carry and where you could carry them in the colonies, so the whole “historical precedent notwithstanding the language” argument doesn’t really work.
All other amendments are subject to reasonable limitations. First Amendment isn’t unlimited. Can’t shout fire in a crowded theater. Can’t defame someone. Might need a permit to hold a political rally. Can’t use a bulllhorn in your front yard in the middle of the night to exercise your freedom of speech and wake up your neighbors.
And where do you want to draw the line? Should private citizens have tanks? Tactical nukes? That’s where the “we should have all the things available to the military” argument breaks down.
you are so full of shit.
There is noting in the second amendment that limits what kind of weapons you are allowed too own and carry, nor is there a limitation to an “era” of when militia are “operational”. The writers made it clear that the second amendment was enshrined, specifically to put a check on government by the U.S. citizens if the government becomes oppressive and/or totalitarian.
….and there is no law that says you can’t yell fire in a theater, crowded or not crowded. that’s another lie you’ve been fed. the first amendment was written to protect ALL speech, not just the speech you agree with.
…and whether or not you can defame someone, hold a political rally, use a bulllhorn in your front yard in the middle of the night to exercise your freedom of speech, is jurisdictional and up to the legislators of the state, city or county which are supposed to represent the will of the people and enact laws that are voted on by their elected representatives.
You really have no idea what you’re talking about. you’re a walking cliche. You need to take a civics class.
and there you go with the ad hominem (means I know I’ve won
the argument). Since we’re going to stoop to that level though, how many civics, law, or history classes have you taken though?
Incidentally, this most recent shooter might have very well thought he was using a gun to justly protect himself from the government going after him (at least if Trump wins).
So, when it is that justified and when is it unjustified? Food for thought.
And there’s a law that says that you can’t take up arms against the U.S. government—it’s called treason.
Finally, I’d invite you to read the Supreme Court decision in Schenck v. United States that says, “The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic.”
Guess they didn’t teach that to you in civics class.
By the People…..how can you take up arms against yourself
food for thought
it’s called hari kari!
I look forward to Trump being elected and having Elon Musk sit on a Commission auditng the bloated Federal government.
It was never intended that the Federal government would be this big, after all we are a federation of sovereign States who can better govern the wants and needs of it’s citizenry than some unelected Washington DC bureaucrat
is elon and relation to Trumps mate Leon?
I get what you are saying , but in the global geo politics game you need an overlying Infrastructure/leadership that reflects the Federation of of Sovereign states?
Overlying? See, that’s the problem. We’re not set up like that. As the Constitution says, ALL powers not expressly reserved to the Federal government shall be that power which rests exclusively with each State. Over the years, what was once a confined space for the Federal government has mutated into this monstrous, grotesque, bloated ineffective web of regulatory agencies who have been incrementally empowered because Congressional members have decided their time is best spent worrying about being re-elected, instead of doing their jobs.
my point is the Fed represents the country to the world….and I agree bloated govt with bureaucrats who have become their own political force , which means they are riding the gravy train , and seem to have impunity when it comes to being transparent and accountable…Australia is often called a banana republic…who runs the Govt……..Lobbyists + bureaucrats….= ????
HAHAHA! love you brother. great one….and so true.
did you say supreme court , LOL?
sorry, didn’t mean to offend you.
Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s we were required to take civics classes. History was always my favorite subject throughout HS and College. I have a passion for History so read a ton of it. as far as law goes, it walks hand in hand with history so I often research underlying laws that have affected history.
you bring up a very about the gunman’s motivation and yes, if you listen to the rhetoric, you can understand his fear. However, historically speaking, the one thing we know is that over the four years that Trump was president he never attempted to do any of the sacred mob said he would do of elected, in fact through deregulation, permanent funding of HBC, standing up for freedom of speech and the constitution, he actually did the opposite of what the fear mongers said prior to his election.
in actuality, the Schneck v. U.S. case was about the U.S limiting Schnecks free speech due to his socialist party ties. the quote you reference was an analogy by Supreme Court Justice, Oliver Wendell Holmes as an example of limiting free speech. the ruling was overturned.
Its a good soundbite but that’s about it. However, it is not a law and has never been and yes, you can stand up and yell fire, although you may get your ass kicked for doing so.
re: treason: While the Constitution’s Framers shared the centuries-old view that all citizens owed a duty of loyalty to their home nation, they included the Treason Clause not so much to underscore the seriousness of such a betrayal, but to guard against the historic use of treason prosecutions by repressive governments to silence otherwise legitimate political opposition.
Not only are we allowed to take up arms against a repressive government, some scholars have said it’s a duty to defend the citizens of our country and our country against tyranny.
it comes down to the hitler question: if you knew then what you know now about Hitler would you and your fellow citizens been justified to stand up against the Reich?
Sadly unarmed citizens of Germany learned: “In 1933, the ultimate extremist group, led by Adolf Hitler, seized power and used the” (gun registry) “records to identify, disarm, and attack political opponents and Jews. Constitutional rights were suspended, and mass searches for and seizures of guns and dissident publications ensued. Police revoked gun licenses of Social Democrats and others who were not “politically reliable.” read the history here:
https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/how-nazis-used-gun-control-stephen-p-halbrook/
just read this about ol JD……..in relation to the Springfield /Haitian/pets etc…….he was quoted as saying,”If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do,” said the senator.”
shit so JD is prepared to just make shit up to get the media’s attention??? FFS really?
haven’t read that yet, but nothing new in exaggerations to put the spot light on an issue.
Trump Russia collusion was 100% invented by Hillary Clinton and the DNC…and how many years did the media spout that crap?
like I said previously the eating cats thing made the media report on Springfield and the issues with introducing 20,000 peoples of a different culture into a town of 60,000.
I don’t care if it’s Haitians (whom I actually like), Chinese or Californians. it’s gonna have a huge impact.
Increase a population overnight by 25%, with people from completely different cultural backgrounds, its gonna have an impact, not to mention the impact in limited housing, health care services, schools and infrastructure.
Imagine if 20,000 Byron Bay residents moved to Torquay. Yuck!