Harvey Weinstein's suit fights a losing battle against gravity and excess to Kelly's bulging athleticism.
Can you believe it’s been a dozen years since WSL owner Dirk Ziff celebrated pro surfing’s just-opened New York office with summer cocktails at the James in Soho alongside Kelly Slater, Steph Gilmore, Gabriel Medina, super producer Harvey Weinstein – who knew!, Katie Holmes, Anna Wintour and Matt Lauer.
It was a fabulous event, by all accounts, and will long be remembered as the zenith of the WSL.
As the company’s then-CEO Paul Speaker said, “Planting a flag in the media and marketing capital of the world, New York City, is a natural extension of this growth and places professional surfing in line with all major sporting leagues in terms of proximity to major partnership opportunities.”
It didn’t work out that way, of course, and though it will go down as a curio of history, Weinstein is currently at Rikers Island waiting a retrial for sexual assault charges, the almost identical outfits of Kelly Slater and Harvey Weinstein do bear commenting.
Twinned in sartorial communion, a matching set of suits, one grey, one black, layered over plain black crew-neck tees.
No ties, no pocket squares, no fuss, just the barest suggestion of formality stripped down to its muscular, minimalist bones.
The look, if you’ll rememeber, is that late-aughts/early-teens casualisation, the great democratic unraveling of menswear where the suit began flirting with the street.
Think back: by the mid-2000s, the black t-shirt under a suit had already become the uniform of the moneyed creative class. Steve Jobs had canonised the black mock-turtleneck years earlier, but the broader brigade, the directors, tech barons, musicians, had popularised the plain black tee as the ultimate anti-shirt.
Grey suits (mid-weight wool or wool-blend, single-breasted, notch lapels) paired with it offered just enough polish to pass muster at a cocktail party while signalling you were too cool, too busy conquering worlds, to bother with a proper dress shirt and tie.
The combo peaked in that hazy 2010–2015 window: red carpets softened, Silicon Valley invaded fashion weeks, and suddenly every man who mattered wanted to look like he’d just stepped off a private jet and into a gallery opening.
Who wore it better? Kelly Slater or Harvey Weinstein?
The contrast is tragicomic. The same outfit, yes, but on a frame built for boardrooms and backlots rather than reef breaks. The suit strains slightly at the buttons, the fabric pulling where Kelly’s drapes; the black tee sits heavier, less like armour and more like a shroud over ambition’s bulk.
It reads as camouflage, power disguised as nonchalance, but the effect is oh so laboured, the tailoring fighting a losing battle against gravity and excess.
I was reminded, along with everyone else, of the event thanks to the excellent Sterling Spencer podcast where Joel Tudor said many inflammatory, and very untrue things, such as,
“The guy that owns the WSL was Harvey Weinstein’s main man…you want some shit dude, go get that shovel out… that should tell you why the WSL is as tacky and dorky as it is.”
What a time to be alive, yes?
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That Joel interview was great – not the interview itself as Spencer and Ryan just kind of bumble and fawn over their guests, but what Joel offered was almost a mix of cynicism and nihilism towards the surf industry, and he really exposed the threads for any journalist to tug on, alas, in such a circlejerk little world, everyone seems conditioned never to bite the hand that offers access.
For a crusty old dad-bod in his early 50s who is still trying to relive the 90s but with double the volume on his quiver, it makes more and more sense to me every day why guys like Rastovich and Machado, etc. gradually to a degree put some distance with themselves between other 90s stars like Kelly and company. That Momentum Generation revisited project a few years back must have been pretty awkward for the portion of guys who retained their souls and personal integrity up to that present day. Other than actually riding a wave on my dad-bod friendly boards, there is absolutely nothing pure about surfing these days… good times…
Is it deranged to think that there is something fishy about a 33 year old famous person grooming a 16 year old hight school girl? See my reply to Hippy below for a bit of the story,
Derek and his appreciation for pedophiles in his culture is something to behold…What is Weinstein doing on a surf website?
Appearing with the best in the surf biz!
blood brothers
when Slater comes out as MAGA, it will be fun and open season if it’s not already
Gross
Where the hell is Conan Hayes and what is he up to?
About to be named Secretary of War
Do you think he’s Otto?
Please contact your local Rx and ask the chemist if your lithium prescription arrived yet.
LOL
Pretty sure Crocket and Tubbs were crushing the tee/jacket thing back in the 80’s.
Oh yeah, it was an eighties thing rebirthed in the tens.
Kelly is really getting it from every direction. Fairly sure that he and sterling were tight. All these new stab video poddies making him look like a mook, even if John and Dane still giving him praise. Think that right-wing Ke11y is just around the corner. He may change his moniker to Sl88ter™️.
Love how Dooma and sam say they believe that K didn’t know the board was a Mann and John, who hasn’t been following, just outright says that he obviously would have been able to tell the board from his own shaper. He clearly didn’t get the script beforehand. I’m gonna be a Kelly stan (superfan) just to be contrarian. It’s now my new, online identity.
Talking about contrianism, and everybody will have their own opinion about what is stylish and what is not, but I’ve always liked the clean look of a suit with a long-sleeved T-shirt below. It’s just simple and easy. Certainly not gonna wear a tie. Never really have and hopefully never really will 🤞. At the same time I acknowledged that I’m a simpleton and have never had any real sense of style, so I’m likely wrong. Betcha if Brad Pitt turned up at an event, tomorrow, wearing a t under his tailored jacket everybody would be saying how well he pulls it off.
@DR. When was the last time you wore a t under your suit to an event ?
so Miami Vice, dated and lame
What’s wrong with a crisp tailored shirt and tie?
I’d forgotten that the style went back that far.
The crispness is what’s wrong. I dislike having to keep clothes wrinkle free. I do wear a dress shirt 20X more often than I wear a t with a jacket, but that’s just because I only wear jackets for formal occasions. Neck ties are constricting and I don’t wear them because I don’t have to. If I ever have to, again , then I’ll get someone to tie it for me and I’ll slip it on. I wouldn’t encourage anyone to follow my path ( of relative poverty) but it’s just the decisions I made and continue to make for now. Comfort first. No airs and very few graces.
I get your aesthetic. Business used to pressure me to dress well. I hated the dry cleaning. But man, that crisp shirt and tie make you look great. Maybe not in Barbados, given.
My casual nice now is pants with cashmere. Most important to women I’ve found, nice shoes. They really judge shoes. Even cooler is fine clothing and wearing slaps, but your feet better be in good condition because they will be scrutinized. I call it Montecito Sales wear
The Miami Vice look tries to tread both worlds. “I’m so cool I don’t have to look good”. I fucking hate Miami. Fucking construction hasn’t improved in the 20 years I’ve been working in Doral. Terrible architecture if you can call it that. Chain restaurants. It’s like bad Orange County, like Australia has become. Strip malls. Mc D’s and Starfucks
Joel’s not wrong on Dirk being Harvey’s main man. Sat on the Weinstein board for years, jumped ship right as everything went sideways, got dragged into class actions for looking the other way while Harvey did his thing. Cases got tossed, hmm.
Keep digging and Ziff is getting fined hundreds of millions for bribing officials across DRC, Libya, Chad… Russian stock schemes flagged as massive fraud… but none of it compares to keeping Teahupoo and Pipe on the CT schedule and sending Filipe Toledo out there. One of the worst crimes in history.
I think Pip and Teahupoo the crime of the century!
Not saying this as a “I do not believe you”, but can you provide some links to where we can start the digging?… how fitting would it be for a bunch of angry Beach Grit commenters who spend way too much time in these comments sections (I am guilty too) uncovering the world of the guy who funds the ‘CT tour and all it’s governance…ELO may just become a sympathetic figure after all (probably not)…
Starting to wonder if Ke11y could be in the Eppy files. He has to have been to the island to try surfing the little left and right. If I recall correctly, he did meet his baby momma when she was 16.
always wondered if Eppy island had swell exposure….. has Barrelled been on that plane too?
Strayan munk knows who Kelly snaked underaged chinese taco from, that mystery now buried deep in the labyrinth of ban
NYC offices? No wonder the connie at Rockaway, they even scored is the shocking part
The great Bob’s interview with the mediocre Todd, ATP has never recovered
Were Weinstein, Eppy, Ziff and Kelly also friends with Don, Dr Joe Rogan must look into this
It looks like there is a left and right on the east side but likely lacks swell exposure other than freak easterly swell. SC said who it was deep in a thread. Low level San Clemente pro.
The story goes R. Kelly (33 yrs old) stopped by Kalani (16 yrs old) dad’s house in Sam Clemente to inform him that he wanted him to hold his daughter for him and make sure she didn’t see any other guys until she was legal for Ke11y. When Robert left the dad walked into the living room where Kalani, her then boyfriend DW, and other soon to be pro surfers were hanging out and informed DW that he is no longer dating Kalani and that she is Mr. Slaters now. It really did a number on DW from what the boys present said. Seabass tells the story the best if there is a surf journalist out there willing to dig into the story.
I looked. No surfers really show up.
My personal theory is that your Kelly slater and laird Hamiltons and surfers generally had their minor teenage girl phase when they were minor teenagers themselves. A 15 year old girl wasn’t this opportunity denied that became a forbidden fruit as you hit 18 like if we were some dorky college professor or Bill Gates.
The most surf adjacent person I’ve found that is substantively in the Epstein files is Casey Wasserman, but his contacts were with Ghislane in the early 2000’s before Epstein was arrested. Still sorta weird and embarrassing for him but no evidence of anything related to children.
It’s not a theory. Baby Momma has said that she met him at at trade show, can’t recall the year but it was when she was 16 or 17 me thinks.
100% complete focus and adoration would not have been showered on him… so I doubt he was there…
Suit jacket and a tee shirt is the biggest fashion faux pa in my eyes. Weirdo comedians and douche bags trying too hard. If u don a suit jacket you’re shirt needs a tie
Doesn’t need a tie, just a dress shirt
Dress shirt and suit jacket speaks real estate vibes
The “tie” is the most inane accoutrement ever created.
The tie is the “finish”
If KS was a zionist DR would be so far up his backside you wouldnt see the laces on his shoes.
I think he is, big fan of Doc Paskowitz, been to Israel a few times.
Did you attend his gender reveal party last month?
Guilt by association. I am 50/50 on it.
Is Weinstein in the Epstein files?
what happens if a third stein gets pinned with being a fiddler? Is the antisemitism gonna go up on through the roof?
no he’s not……he’s in the ziff files though!
“I dont even really smoke weed anymore, only in the evenings.” Ha dude is a unit.
Xox
Hey DR, just wondering if there’s any chance you fucked the Jack McCoy died story as bad as the Reno one…?
I wish I did!
Yeah right, that’s just crazy talk
We all know who wore it better
This guy !
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More thanslightly (un)known.But a good bloke, according to some…
That looks like a negroni but I always took him for a vodka/cran kinda guy.
Not the most flattering angle of ol Charlie is it?
used or new?
Weinstein. Dried cum looks better on black.
Bill Clinton would disagree
Eagerly awaiting Bill Clinton’s thoughts in the comment section on Beach Grit!
He left a surplus
While we wait, we can always crowdfund for a Nigel Farage comment
https://www.cameo.com/nigel…
Or George santos
https://www.cameo.com/gads?…
Selling themselves cheap these bastards! Quite telling
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Thought it was Hebrew at first glance!
Xox
Well the ASP was the original touchy tour. Plenty of dodgy shit went on there. Guess the WCT was just a more professional more highly paid version of fiddling. The ultimate Pedos playground.
I hear your pain Occy.
We know that Sarge went too far that fateful night on the north shore.
Ahem…
https://beachgrit.com/2018/12/breaking-the-world-surf-league-implicated-in-ongoing-russia-intrigue/