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Open Thread: Comment Live, Day One of the Hurley Pro Sunset Beach presented by Shiseido!

Conflict!

I don’t, in fact, know if the Hurley Pro Sunset Beach presented by Shiseido is going to run today or not but I must leave on an early-ish morning sail and cannot, will not, leave you bereft in case that it does. There will be many conflicts in the water, professional surfer battling professional surfer, but also one major conflict on land.

Shiseido, the presenting sponsor, makes beauty products. So does Hurley.

How did the World Surf League let this happen? In any case, watch the fire works here or here. Chat with your braddahs and sistahs below.

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channelbottom

That ain’t happening here. I wish it was, but we recognise that the current state of the pandemic is still a swirling mess and people are still passing it round. Schools here are still masked. My daughter would likely cop it pretty bad if infected, due to a small hole in her heart. We can’t risk it. She won’t get her second jab for a few weeks yet.

I’m not bothered by these relatively minor, but also relatively effective precautions. It’s a pity that so many other people are. ‘We’, the world, could’ve knocked C19 on it’s head and be over it already if so many did not act like twats.

channelbottom

ARE THE BOYS OUT AT THE BOX?

Dogsnuts

Has anyone placed any interesting bets? Frederico at 101:1 to finish first 😘😏
Xox

Tomo Dutchy

No wonder Shiseido wants to enter the surf market. I live in Japan and the stick type sunscreens cost $25

samwaters

“Shiseido, the presenting sponsor, makes beauty products. So does Hurley. How did the World Surf League let this happen??

Well duh, ‘you’ Chas, yes ‘you’, and ‘others’, (who will not be named at this time–they know who they are), Neg too, let it happen, by tuning into the Wsl’s lame website, come hell or high-water, and being seduced by their propaganda. ‘You’ Chas are da guilty one– you let this happen.
As Nathan said to David–“thou art the man”!
Seems Elo and Dirk have won!

Working Class Hero

Fake news, although I can’t tell what the fuck is going on when I view the WSL website so…?

Twinnie

Looks like BL is back in the booth.
I can’t remember if we love or hate on him? Someone please remind me.
P.S. we still throwing shade on Turps?

Low wide stinkbug stance

Barton ate shit on his skateboard a few days ago (after posting instagrams on him skating in a park). Broken wrist/arm and dislocated shoulder by the look of it. Is in a hyperbaric chamber banging on about “freedom”. But i think he said he’d be back commenting at sunset.

Sellme fitzgobbins

JMD would have no such problem

G——

Up to there wrists in fishpie

Occ Topus

Reef Macintosh does NOT approve!

Tomas' silky smooth arms

Where is Jessie

astro

Foodland.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

“Reef, there’s a reef?!”
“That’s right. So when the wave breaks here, don’t be there, or you’re gonna get drilled.”

Huli Opu

There’s slaps, then cracks, then dirty lickens. In ascending order.

Sit down to pee

I want to know what makes a false crack false and how that is different to a genuine crack?

Abscessed Llama

Either! You didn’t deserve it and got it anyway. or Didn’t see it coming! I forget or really don’t know?

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

Negs specializes in genuine plumber cracks.

Craven Morehead

False crack is like a cheapshot, a punch without warning

Sellme fitzgobbins

They call them a “coward punch” in Aus

Craven Morehead

A “king hit”

Sit down to pee

Thank you mystery solved!

@surfads

False starts, got me all excited.

So… no surf to talk about… how is… everybody?

astro

Ex TC Dovy is a lot of junk swell, wind and rain. A bit shit, really.

@surfads

Yep, looking like wind should clean up a bit tomorrow though. I fumbled that good day last week so hoping to make amends.

astro

Im not hopeful here. I’m looking forward to the Superbowl. Surfings for retards.
Go LA.

Occ Topus

Surfed day before yesterday at my local in Kona. Inconsistent, but overhead sets and around ten guys out. Supposed to be pumping by Tuesday. That should be the day Sunset event begins.

Craven Morehead

Let me guess your “Local”, Pinetrees

Occ Topus

No.

Mapski

Old Airport?

Craven Morehead

Bullshit

Huli Opu

Heads up surfbums. It’s your ever-vigilant watchdog Unko Huli here reporting on our latest corporate environmental villains. The featured offender today is the Sunset Beach Pro sponsor, Shiseido, a 150 year old Japanese corporate cosmetic behemoth. A rather incongruous match for surfing but they’re making a big push into the hugely lucrative worldwide sunscreen market so let’s take a drill down into the minutiae behind the curtain.

Here’s what we know: Hawaii recently enacted legislation outlawing the chemical ingredients xybenzone and octinoxate that are known to harm coral. Shiseido’s Ultimate Sun Protection Lotion contained these but when the law took effect in January 2021 they reformulated and deleted both. Good on them.

However, they retained the chemical octocrylene (OC) which has also been determined to harm reefs and reef life. Here’s what the American Chemical Society researchers found:

ACS’ journal Analytical Chemistry report that one such chemical, octocrylene (OC), which is also in some cosmetics and hair products, accumulates in coral as fatty acid esters that could be toxic to the marine organism. According to several research studies, up to 14,000 tons (28,000,000 millions pounds annually) of sunscreen end up in the world’s oceans every year.

OC can be found in cosmetics such as hair sprays and conditioners, as well as sunscreens. Although OC is toxic to coral at high concentrations, Didier Stien, Philippe Lebaron and colleagues wondered how it would affect coral at levels more likely to be encountered in the environment.

To find out, the researchers exposed coral to OC at various concentrations for a week. They found that the coral was sensitive to the compound at concentrations of 50 micrograms per liter and greater, which is about 10 times higher than levels measured in the ocean. OC accumulated in the coral as fatty acid conjugates, which may interfere with the organism’s metabolism. The team also detected increased levels of acylcarnitines in the exposed corals, which are produced under conditions of abnormal fatty acid metabolism and mitochondrial dysfunction. The researchers say that levels of OC in the ocean might have been underestimated previously because these measurements did not take into account OC fatty acid esters.

Rep. Nicole Lowen of the Big Isle has introduced a new bill to amend and add with the intent to “avoid continually naming new chemicals and chasing after different chemicals that manufacturers can substitute, each requiring a new study, in this sort of unending cycle.”

Products that purport to be “reef friendly” cannot be reliably trusted as the term is not federally regulated so read the label and be akamai about what is good, or not, before you slather on the goop.

Check out savethereef.org

disqus_00d1gIXedO

Thanks Unc for keeping what’s real at the forefront. Mahalo

Occ Topus

My wife and I use Hawaiian Tropic. It does say “Reef Friendly” on the label, but has OC listed as an active ingredient. Imma look into other brands. Mahalo for the info.

Derek Hynd's Missing Fins

Reef Friendly here means you can approach Reef McIntosh and ask to rub on his middle age man gut and he’s cool with it.

Dogsnuts

More cushion for the pushin’ reoooowww!
Xox

Ke12y’s brown HGH dome

This one works, been using it for a minute and it stays on while in water and easily comes off with towel post surf: https://littlehandshawaii.com/

Mista Spakle

man try surf yogis…terrible name but all normal ass ingredients and that ish works. It’s like frickin paint and a tin lasts a year….it’s like zinc though so prob only for face

Otto

First Power Rankings, now Sour Rankings for companies previously held in good standing.

Jimmy the Saint

No stress, Sage and Lakey are rebuilding the coral reefs

AI (for ever) .

One Instagram post at a time?

Stanislav Franck

Let’s not forget the palm oil used in shampoos, which contributes greatly to deforestation, which can then trigger desertification and habitat destruction and loss of life and land for many poor animals, including monkeys and frogs and gnats.

On bended knee, Will Tyler go down for them in shared solidarity? Is she entering this contest to increase awareness? And WSL, how could you take the money and promote such an egregious corporation in one hand while running ads in the middle of heats promoting clean oceans in the other? Do you have no shame?

So many plotlines. So much intrigue.

notsurfingtoday

Did shitseido started putting money into surf before or after that ridiculous and ridiculously brief ‘save the reefs’ campaign by wsl? Seems it was about the same time. Wonder if they pressed for it to end.

Greg Shark

Piss orf

Pancho

Unko is japanese for shit.

ptsdsurfer

Next Call @ Feb 14, 2022 7:50am HST


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