Authors of new study forget the power of the surfer's lizard brain…
How much combined time have you put into dreaming about surfing? Into planning trips? Into sitting at airports and in airplanes and rental cars and chartered boats?
Into actually being in the water?
And, of course, into commenting on BG?
Months? Years?
Does that carry an impact?
The servers to power our phones and computers run on fossil fuels, let alone the freshwater pulled from riverine ecosystems needed to keep those servers cool.
The CO2 emissions of a cross-planet flight and diesel for ferries and boat rides or jetting off to a wave pool in the middle of Texas add their load to driving ice melt and ocean acidification, leading inexorably to those things we love eventually being destroyed.
We may not be able to have our cake, and eat it, too.
And, don’t even think about material footprints for boards, baggies, and wetsuits (unless you’re wealthy enough to afford all the “green” versions of those, which means you’re also probably taking two or five trips a year to catch waves, thus offsetting any positive impact of those consumer choices).
When younger, I was naïve to think all surfers cared about the above issues, that a wave rider’s connection to Ma Ocean and Church of Open Sky meant they intrinsically cared about the environment.
Then I found the BG community.
But hope, possibly, may still exist.
The authors point out that surfers have a long history of mobilizing to protect waves; that contests draw in tourists; and that tourist activities at key US surf spots generate in excess of $10 million, annually.
More importantly, they point out that, “As 90% of world-class wave locations occur within marine biodiversity hotspots and more than a quarter are located near key biodiversity areas, there is a direct link between biodiversity and wave conservation.”
Their research suggests more reserves will be proposed and become legally protected in the years to come, in large part because of their magic pudding of conservation, economic prosperity and human well-being.
It should be noted, however, that the authors do not discuss larger trajectories ie what happens to breaks, even protected ones, which get overcrowded within 10 to 20 years.
The authors forget that surfers are selfish and greedy and that a pristine discovery does not stay that way for long.
This also creates local haves and have-nots, leading to infighting in the local community.
So, what do you think?
But first, let’s be honest — any of us with a crystal ball would have bought up acres and acres of coastal property the world over, seeing how many people want to surf in the 2020s.
Outcome? We would’ve protected ’em for our selfish use or we would’ve sold it all and become fantastically rich.
So, are wave reserves gonna lead to the protection of marine ecosystems and economic mobility for local stewards?
Or is this study too rose-tinted, and wave reserves either cater to the rich and entitled (looking at you, mud boy Parko), further making surfing an even more entitled privilege?
So send DR a piece. See if he’ll run it.
Otto like this. Is very funny.
I think you nailed him, gay is fine, boorish behavior not so much
There is a LA financial advisor, Ross Gerber, on twitter yesterday talking about how about how gasoline prices have jumped but electricity hasn’t. total cunt
back to the Royal Scam for a classic!
This makes me want to take the Porsche motor out of my VW Kombi and replace it with an electric motor and batteries…
And mentioned you in 1 line, too. You understand it’s a summary of someone else’s research, right? On ocean reserves? Twas not a study they did on rare earth metals. You see the part about tourism and economic impact? That’s your old home. How mamy of the millions coming there, got there by old forms of carbon, vs electric batteries? When that ratio switches I reckon researchers will start to study REMs, and you can send DR that write up for him to throw to the sharks.
You should go to the airshow in Huntington Beach. Love the smell of jet fuel in the morning. Smells like victory.
We’d find you curled up in a corner under the pier crying uncontrollably. Man, that would be a site to see.
Anyone would cry being in Huntington Beach
Full of red hats and USA tank tops?
Waving giant flags off enormous trucks.
And the inside of those USA tank tops has an embroidered Russian flag.
Would you comfort my feelz, Jotto?
No. I’d kick sand on you.
Then hold my hand?
Sorry pal, but no. I’d be happy to slug you in the shoulder.
Lotion my back? (after I get the sand off it)
Can’t. I already threw you off the end of the pier.
Kanoa will save me.
He won’t. He’s too busy frosting his tips.
Something for you to organize for those cold Montana nights, Otto–great chance to perform some masculinity!
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Australia has more than enough raw supply for that market. China does most of the processing but that will change too through the recent QUAD agreement with Australia India America Japan. Hate to break it to you boys but it’s not even a political argument anymore. The numbers are in and market has already moved. Here in Australia you’ve got the major energy companies retiring their coal plants decades earlier than planned, giants like Woodside and Santos flexing their green credentials and former mining magnates like Twiggy Forrest leading the transition. It’s just a few tired old conservative governments like ours Feds dragging the chain. But they’re even isolated domestically with all the state govs (many also conservative) setting strong net zero targets.
We wil change the world!!
Except for India and China.
Who cares, we made a 1% difference
Oi Oi Oi.!!!
I’m guessing you missed the latest green energy dynamic that led to an event raging north of the equator. YES my friend the missteps by Germany’s(pop 87million) green push is a major factor in the events playing out in Ukraine. So if you find yourself wondering why we haven’t taken the next battery tech leap with EVs be sure to watch the quiet efforts related to hydrogen as EVs have yet to prove themselves to be the ultimate answer just yet.
Hike in …. But arrive to the ubiquitous Jet Ski drone.
What seems to be protected is access to the original article without coughing up a ludicrous $35.95! Thus protecting it from wider analysis and critisism.
Original formula.
Watch the kids break out all the sticky bars and BEG you for original formula on day 6 of a boat trip. Last charter, I brought bars to sell !!
When people like DHMF speak passionately about the evils of fossil fuels, what they really mean is that they are even more passionate about all that EV need to exist. Strip mining on a scale that will forever scar our lands, dotting the landscape like meteorite craters. While there are only 30 well evidentiated meteorite impact craters in the United States, imagine the good company they will have when environmental extremists like DHMF declare “hey the celestial heavens, here, hold my soy latte flavored near-beer, and watch my passions at play!” Nickel, cobalt, copper, and lithium. While smelting recovers these minerals, lithium ends up as a mixed byproduct and is more so costly to extract that it’s cost prohibitive. You know what that means. What DHMF really means is that he’s passionate about landfills stuffed with millions upon millions of used car batteries that shall decay and eventually poison ground water and the earth beneath your feet. Back to mining for a sec. All that mining equipment runs on fossil fuels because it’s impossible to run them EV. Just like airplanes, which will also never run on electricity. You want a green plane? Get a fucking glider. You know what else will never run on electricity? Cargo ships. When DHMF says fossil fuels are ruining everything, what he really means is that he’s passionate about burning coal in order to rectify the deficiencies of solar and wind, not to mention all the fossil fuel he’s willing to use to get the electrical grid up to snuff to accommodate a demand that we aren’t technologically equipped to deliver now, or at any time in the foreseeable future.
So, when I read about wave reserves, all I can be certain of is that what they must mean is how passionately rad will it be when DHMF finds out that car battery waste disposal companies have been dumping a shit ton of batteries in those wave reserves just the thousands upon thousands of barrels of toxic waste that litter the oceanic floor between LA and Catalina.
So give up on doing anything green? and subscribe to the “we’re all just going to die anyway when the Sun gobbles up Earth” reasoning?
yup, the caustic dystopia that gives them comfort.
And why does environmentalism make Otto so angry?
Always wondered that. Isn’t clean air and water a common goal to everyone?
Otto mistakes needing to be heard with needing to be right.
It’s not all on him, it’s that culture.
And the information that they seek, cherish and defend is affirmation.
Hey neg, i wasn’t on board with the emoji’s, but they are getting funnier. Maybe cause I wear rose colored glasses, but the Parko don’t hit me is genius.
They’re completely juvenile and silly. But I do chuckle, especially when Scorn gets so upset. Limited to 8 at a time, so changed the don’t hit me Koby to Parko for obvious reasons.
nice play amigo.
real question is why i didn’t got one yet…
Too fat to badge?
Pro tip: Disqus’ Block user feature
Someone please give me a heads-up if he ever rants about something he hasn’t ranted about a million times already
You’ll heal.
Something something eco-feminism
You luv it.
Everyone does
That’s why everyone used it today, even Al Gore.
genius badges.
bexy earns nothing but suspensions.
think how hard it is to get suspended from beachgrit?
that’s next level trolling.
good on you bexy.
let’s be honest. It’s his laziness, that gets him suspended. Back in my hayday it was death threats.
I wish you a long and happy life ol pal.
Cheer up Hipster
I can’t change your world
No, I’m saying do it all.
IEA found that using current mining standards the contribution of critical metal mining to GHG emissions does not negate the climate advantages of clean energy technologies. Total lifecycle GHG emissions of EVs in particular are around half those of internal combustion engines. These emissions will continue to fall as processing technologies improve and become more sustainable.
Also don’t start me on potential of hydrogen as a zero emissions fuel source for maritime and even aviation.
While it doesn’t negate the advantages of green energy, they have failed to quantify for the general public just how many new mining operations will be required to meet demand, and a plain acknowledgement and estimate of how many new land leases will be required to fulfill global demand. There will be mines fucking everywhere, scarring the shit out of the landscape. Can’t wait.
While I agree that hydrogen is a part of the solution, hydrogen is nearly entirely extracted from fossil fuels. Transoceanic cargo ships simply can’t carry enough to complete their journeys.
Here in the States, our bumbling President has declared all out war on fossil fuels and is willing to deny all reality that fossil fuels will remain the World’s primary source of energy production for decades to come. Biden doesn’t see it that way. The stupid old fuck says we can beat Russia if only we pivot our economy to green energy right here, right now. That’s unrealistic. Absurd.
We could have supported Green Energy for decades if not for the corporate influences within your party for decades.
That’s why it’s called, Inconvenient Truth.
And where was the technology decades back that isn’t even up to pace with such a total green energy dependence pivot that they’re presently pushing? Capitalism drives innovation. Always has. Had nothing to do with corporate influence. Had everything to do with profitability. I know you hate that.
Jesus, you’re more blinded than Ayn Rand.
They espouse the amorality of Ayn like a virtue. Then they signal. Then they blame people for being awake as if the alternative was better…. which they won’t explain because their cute meme paints them into a corner that reads willful ignorance. Or asleep. None can explain it.
Liquid hydrogen is three times as energy dense as diesel. Transoceanic cargo vessels would triple their range with similar sized fuel tanks.
I’m working on a vessel conversion right now. Not to save the planet as much as 18 hrs a day next to a 6 BT, day after day, is oppressive. I also believe the electric drive will be more fishy when trolling, especially when the fish are high in the water column. Greenwashing the catch will be a byproduct.
There are approximately 55,000 merchant vessels trading internationally. Approximately 5,600 general cargo ships. You’ll need hydrogen fueling terminals at every major port. Those will have to be in place before converted ships can come any where close to surpassing diesel fueled vessels. Hydrogen requires more built-in fuel storage capacity than fossil fuels. For now, it seems more suitable for use on ships on short journeys. For companies to invest in bulk, the relevant infrastructure for refueling and transportation, including electrolyzers, compressors, storage, tanks and pipelines, must also be available.
Like I said before, do it all. Produce fossil fuels. Produce clean energy. What you can’t do is actively crush fossil fuels in order to force a near total pivot to green energy.
More built in fuel storage? It’s 3 times more energy dense a than diesel.
Taken in context of the lack of fueling stations they would have to carry much more. But that’s ever changing.
Wasn’t saying crush oil. That’s insanity. I’m personally trying to pivot towards a better propulsion system because a waterside hydrogen fueling station has opened near me.
Hydrogen, even in liquid form, is less energy-dense than bunker fuel, meaning that hydrogen fuel cells will take up more volume on cargo ships, which engenders an efficiency and opportunity cost of lost cargo.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/…
Just use the wind.
I captured you in 1 line, vs. you being Matt George.
Your weak swipe only detracted from your argument. Shows a lack of confidence.
Hmmm…the periodic table of elements and physics, needs confidence?
And when I am traveling for work, it’s oddly refreshing to not have that urgency in my mind…. “what’s the wind doing, the tide”. Hard to quantify how much those simple questions suffocate nearly everything else.
Told a friend that when I retire, it may be healthier for me to leave the coastal plain.
Few years ago, we had a huge job, so many moving parts and the clients were thrilled. My staff was thrilled. We walked out to the loading dock and my installation guy whispered “Hip, there is no wind”. He goes onto his phone and the tide was pushing high high. He had our boards in his truck hidden.
I gave the woman who managed our crew my credit card and told her to take everyone to dinner.
Willie and I went surfing and had Jack in the Box on the way home.
some of history’s best surfs have been financed by a credit card, fueled by jack-in-the-crack, and justified by a mild white lie
Another commenter was angry at me and brought up how many trips I used to go on…. that I couldn’t be an environmentalist if my carbon footprint was tainted by surf travel.
He had me for a second, but then it came to me (rationalization). If I wasn’t flying to Nerita, would Singapore Air ground the flight? And in effect, my boarding that Air New Zealand flight makes that flight more efficient. I had to do my part for Alaska Air.
Delta helped me help them flying to the east coast for work.
And then the sacrifice not to fly since Covid! I’m balancing my personal Karma driving 40 miles each day checking every nook and cranny in my fuel efficient sedan!
Individualizing it while fossil fuel corps get millions in subsidies and the US military to protect their investments was one of the biggest tricks ever. Then brainwashing folx like Otto and LGR the 2nd biggest.
Isnt it funny that our conservatives were so easy to manipulate?
Snowflakes.
Melting like the wicked witch when wet.
I actually took a fair size chunk of time out recently from surfing due to health reasons and some personal reasons–it was amazing how much extra time I had to get other things done.
Imagine how much extra time we would all have if you did that more often
https://youtu.be/nemy4TD4I3A
I usually blame it on the dog.
Pal?
Yes Chum?
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I think we should just turn whole ocean into a reserve and build heaps more coal fired wave pools
NB – good article my brain hurting from thinking – now back to mud slinging as requires less thought and can say cunt more
I come here after a daily dose( haven’t dosed anything fun lately) of WSJ, Financial Times and Bloomberg for the reasons you posted
This shit is worse than Matt George, B___ M____, and JFK combined.
Yeah jeezo. Who is this DHMF cunt?
Nah. Good shit manny. The more voices the better. Esp with thoughtful fodder rather than more ‘sleb bashing.
Nothing is worse than Ben. Nothing.
What about a dinner party/ping pong tournament with the Surfer mag editorial team from 1995?
Tough one, but Ben is still worse
Wouldn’t Ben be part of that party or was he banished by then?
1996 was the year a Video section was added to the Surfer Poll awards.
Pinnacle of Western Civilization according to Ben, so guessing he was there in 95
That entire generation of editors was flawed. They didn’t like me either. I didn’t get their industry. That’s what made Nick Carroll here so funny. He hated blog comment sections, we had a war over it on an Aussie magazine. LOL.
That gen liked to talk at us.
I can see how MC has gotten too big for his britches and left our “Hall of Chatter Boxes.” Carroll and LT absence should make one question our validity. Have we become the WallStreet Bets of surfing or have they moved away from the coastal plane?
Well, he did bring a fresh outlook on some issues, difinetly livened things up a bit, I think he could maybe even be that freerider dude people rag on.
No
Do you think Derek Hynd’s Missing Eye could do better?