Should they stay or should they go?
The horrible tragedy on Maui, wildfires chewing through large swaths of the western side of the island, burning historic Lahaina to the ground and killing over 100, is still unfolding. Families suffering, lives forever altered, paradise strained. In the days after the fire, which sparked to life on August 8th, Maui residents and those on neighboring islands pleaded with tourists to change their travel plans and not visit.
Maui is not the place to have your vacation right now,” Hawaiian actor Jason Momoa declared, adding, DO NOT TRAVEL TO MAUI. Do not convince yourself that your presence is needed on an island that is suffering this deeply.”
The sentiment remains for many, days, on, but others are feeling the strain as tourist dollars account for the bulk of Maui’s economy.
“We’re really in pain, but I have no trouble with a customer coming in with a smile on their face,” Panna Cappelli told NBC News. She had art gallery on Front Street in Lahaina and the work of some 200 local artists were all destroyed but she also has three other galleries on the island that remain open and in need of customers.
“Come to Hawaii, but also respect what is happening,” said Maui resident Jon Baker, who owns and operates a rental car business near the normally bustling Kahului Airport. “If you don’t see the typical aloha, it’s only because people are hurting and grieving,” he added. “We rely on tourism. We need it.”
Air travel to Maui has dropped by 80% since the fire.
“It’s a fine line. It’s a fine balance,” said Ilihia Gionson, spokesman for the Hawaii Tourism Authority. “At the end of the day, for those people who want to be working, we want to make sure they can be working. What we don’t want to see is people losing their homes and then losing their jobs.”
“(Not coming to Maui) is the wrong message,” said Maui-based wedding photographer Tara Lee Murphy. “We want to keep working to keep Maui open. We don’t want Covid 2.0.”
And on it goes.
But do you have an opinion on the matter?
Team Momoa or Team Tourist?
More as the story develops.
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Before I hop on my private jet to Maui to spend time on my estate, please tourists, stay home. This is no time for vacationing on Maui.
They’ve made that obvious.
Philámayaye
Thought you said go but you said ho…shoots
Or…you can be the insurance companies who pay their claims and be the State/Feds by holding the insurance companies accountable and filling financial gaps to allow people to rebuild.
Rebuilding after Hurricane Sandy absolutely sucked but most of neighbors remained and financially we’re better off.
Just go and don’t be an asshole.
I think both “parties” die out within 10 years, and we choke the whole pile of shit and start over.
wha ‘d vs say?
i’m fully prepped: 4 D batteries for the reading lantern; frozen water jugs for the fridge; candles. humans have no rights to i-phones…
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Yes, but there is a ground level grass roots movement that the next generation will be rid of that “false dueling party”. But for right now, the left is f anti-human, and anti-Child.
PGE – Profits Get Earned. Risks get socialized.
Hard to fathom what has happened there. Most of it does not make sense. Several cars essentially melted and one left without a single mark, usually a blue car. Restaurants completely reduced to dust yet their blue umbrellas out the front without a mark on them. Homes reduced to complete rubble/dust yet one home in the middle perfectly fine not a mark on it. Insurance companies not paying out. Authorities literally shutting down donation drives, while authorities do not provide aid. Everyone got an alert for missile attach and tsunami but nobody got a warning for the fire. Maui hosted a convention about AI island and the local families have refused to sell their land. Now even people whos homes didnt burn down are being evicted. Land rezoned. Police chief resigns straight after due to ‘medical issues’ he was also the police chief in a few other controversial events you might like to look into…
What have I missed?
Oh kids were sent home from school that day because of the wind. You know Maui is windy often right? It wasnt THAT windy that day. They were home trapped without warnings to evacuate and parents were blocked by police and not allowed to rescue their kids. MANY more dead than being reported on the ‘news’ many children.
It was also a very significant date, worth looking into…
Oh and those who scoff at the idea of direct energy weapons being a potential. Boeing list this tech on their website…
For those who value their intelligence and wish to look into the things ive listed and put aside their ignorance (no offense) you may start to put pieces of the puzzle together. Canada is on fire again. Oh and lets see what happens in So-Cal…
Do you live in Hawaii? Ever been to Lahaina? If you looked at all the random/odd houses that were still standing, they were “mansions” or new development types. Those new homes consist of aluminum roofs and/or fire retardant materials. Again, if you’ve ever been to Lahaina Town, you would know that a majority of the town is extremely old, Single walled homes that are at least 50-75+yrs old – a more compacted, denser version of Haleiwa town. Most homes are not separated by more than a few feet. The shops on Front St were housed in buildings even older. They didn’t stand a chance. Thus the presence of asbestos everywhere. A residential portion of town that also contained older homes was leveled. While right across the street, a NEW complex of townhomes and single family homes (with many local families) was nearly untouched despite being surrounded by leveled homes on the north, east and south sides. You seeing a pattern here XY? Unless you are implying that lasers strategically destroyed only homes that were over a few decades old, the reason for certain types of homes left standing is pretty much common sense. “New Homes Strong. Old homes weak.” duh. It’s not “deep fake” imagery. Look at any recent satellite image and you will see with your own eyes, from most likely somewhere outside of Hawaii, what I am talking about.
Maui “wasn’t THAT windy that day.” The winds were gusting at 60-80+mph. Those reports are not a conspiracy/fake news. The wind was not human aided. There was a hurricane present below the state. If you bothered to look at local news and local social feeds you could see near toppled Power lines and poles all up and down the highway swaying in the wind the day before and the day of. Combine those winds with Maui’s topography and it was the “perfect storm” to funnel above normal winds into Category 1 level Hurricane winds. And THAT is why Maui Electric/Hawaiian Electric is being investigated and already sued. If you think Lasers created the fire then I hope you are brave enough to go public and admonish the Utility companies and save the residents billions in increased rates after HECO/MECO go bankrupt and some mainland company comes in and buys them out. Also, the POLICE CHIEF did not resign. The Director of Emergency Management did due to “health issues.” No one has been “evicted” yet and no land has been “rezoned”. The reason why people from surviving homes are being told to EVACUATE is that the entire area is toxic right now. You are entitled to your theories of Lasers, only “Blue items” surviving and Inside Jobs. But… get your “facts” correct before spreading misinformation. It’s not helping nor do the people who were directly affected even give a shit right now.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
You make some great points. Ill concede the newer homes could have been protected due to fire retardant materials sure. Their perfect lawns did too.
He might not have been the police chief sorry but how about we look into what other disastrous events he was a key figure in.
How do you explain the one car in the middle of several melted cars? Oh maybe the others were older?
How do you explain the schools being closed? Due to wind? Ha. Its Maui buddy and yes I have been there and even a calm day is windy. The hurricane was several hundred miles away and didnt even bring rain.
Have a look at Amazon, as you might appreciate this one. Its selling a book about the Maui wild fires of 2023 and you know when it was released? 2 days after the fires. Hmmmm.
I do look at social feeds and this is coming from people living this nightmare including Kai and the amazing thing about the time we live in is we have options other than mainstream propaganda. Citizen journalists if you like. Yes the donation drives were shut down by police and military. Locals who were trying to bring in food and water were turned away so had to use their own boats and jetskis to ferry in supplies on other beaches. This is fact.
I do understand ‘authorities’ wanting to control the situation but the American people know this doesnt happen in a timely fashion and its disgusting that people trying to help fellow man are being blocked by red tape and we should all agree with that.
One more thing. Biden said each household who was affected will receive a one off $700 payment. Meanwhile apparently if you cross the border into texas illegally youll be granted $2000 per month. lol. Im sorry what? You dont have to subscribe to the wilder of the theories out there and i respect that. Oh one more thing sorry. Donations ha ha what a joke. Same thing happened in Australia. MILLIONS donated. tied up in more red tape none (or very little) makes it to the people it was donated for.
Wake up friends please.
Again, proving you are NOT from Hawaii nor have any first hand knowledge of what is going on besides watching videos on IG.
How do you explain the one car in the middle of several melted cars? Oh maybe the others were older? I DUNNO? MAYBE IT HAD A TRUMP STICKER ON IT? SO THE LASER, PROGRAMMED BY AI TO NOT DESTROY ANYTHING OWNED BY TRUMP SUPPORTERS DID ITS JOB?
How do you explain the schools being closed? Due to wind? Ha. DID YOU BOTHER TO WATCH ANY FIRST HAND VIDEOS ON IG OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY IN THE FIRE AND SEE HOW WINDY IT WAS? POWER LINES TOPPLING OVER? PALMS FRAWNS WHIPPING IN 80MPH GUSTS? The hurricane was several hundred miles away and didnt even bring rain. DO YOU EVEN SURF? SINCE WHEN DO HURRICANES SPINNING OFF A LAND MASS REQUIRE RAIN TO BE VALIDATED? THAT’S A KOOKY ANSWER BRO. SOME OF THE BEST SURF EVER HAD IN HAWAII HAS BEEN DUE TO HURRICANES AND WIND DRIVEN SWELL – WITH NO RAIN WHATSOEVER. BRUH.
Have a look at Amazon, as you might appreciate this one. Its selling a book about the Maui wild fires of 2023 and you know when it was released? 2 days after the fires. Hmmmm. LOOK AT ANY POST FROM LOCAL HAWAIIAN IG INFLUENCERS. EVEN THE ONES WHO HATE DEMOCRATS AND ARE PRO TRUMP WERE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO NOTE THAT AN 80 PAGE “BOOK” COULD BE WRITTEN WITH AI IN A FEW MINUTES. AND THE AUTHOR OF SAID BOOK IF YOU BOTHERED TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH HAS ALSO “PUBLISHED” OTHER BOOKS ABOUT NATURAL DISASTERS AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES MULTIPLE TIMES ALL WITHIN DAYS OF DISASTERS. BOOKS ARE NO LONGER “PUBLISHED” IN TRADITIONAL MANNERS ANYMORE, WITH PROOFREADERS, MULTI-BOOK DEALS, UP FRONT MONEY, PAPER AND DISTRIBUTION CHANNELS. ANY YOYO WITH A COMPUTER CAN “PUBLISH” A BOOK TODAY. ANOTHER LESSON YOU LEARNED TODAY FOR FREE.
I do look at social feeds and this is coming from people living this nightmare including Kai and the amazing thing about the time we live in is we have options other than mainstream propaganda. Citizen journalists if you like. THESE “CITIZEN JOURNALISTS” ARE ALSO CALLED “INFLUENCERS” OR WANNABE INFLUENCERS. YOU ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE GUYS WHO SCOFFS AT “INFLUENCERS” WHO FILM THEMSELVES HANDING OUT MONEY TO HOMELESS PEOPLE OR LEAVING BIG TIPS TO SINGEL MOM WAITRESSES, HOPING TO HAVE PEOPLE SEND THEM TONS OF PRAISE IN THE PROCESS. WELL I ASK YOU, “WHY DO ALL THESE PEOPLE YOU ARE FOLLOWING FILM THEMSELVES?” IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING “JOURNALISM”??? MOST OF THE MAUI BOYS WHO ARE FILMING THEMSELVES ON JETSKIS AND UNLOADING BOATS ARE NOT FROM LAHAINA. THEY ARE THERE DELIVERING MUCH NEEDED SUPPLIES AS HAWAII’S PEOPLE ALWAYS DO IN TIME OF NEED. SOMETHING YOU ONLY READ ABOUT ON IG. MANY ARE ALSO CLAIMING THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES DOING ANYTHING WHICH IS A TOTAL INSULT TO THE TENS OF THOUSANDS WHO WERE DOING THE SAME THING AND WERE TOO BUSY TO FILM THEMSELVES AND UPLOAD VIDS TO SOCIAL MEDIA. WHILE THESE GUYS WERE DOING INTERVIEWS WITH NON-SITTING POLITICIANS, THERE WERE CARGO SHIPS EN ROUTE TO KAHULUHI HARBOR FILLED WITH 10,000 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF GOODS THESE GUYS WERE DELIVERING BY JETSKI SLEDS. AND AGAIN… THEIR WORK WAS AMAZING AND NEEDED AS WE BOTH AGREE THAT YOU CANNOT COUNT ON GOVT AND BIG ORGS TO GET GOING IMMEDIATELY. BUT TO SIT THERE AND SAY NOOOBODY ELSE WAS DOING ANYTHING WAS SELF SERVING AND IGNORANT… AND NON-LOCALS LIKE YOU DRANK THE KOOLAID. LOL. YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT KAI LENNY AND THE BOYS WERE THE ONLY ONES DOING ANYTHING? WAKE UP BRO. Yes the donation drives were shut down by police and military. AGAIN SHOWING YOU NON LOCALISM… THERE WAS NOOOOO MILITARY PRESENCE DUDE. THAT IS WHAT ALL THE LOCALS WERE BEGGING FOR. SAYING PEARL HARBOR WAS ONLY A HUNDRED MILES AWAY. SO DON’T TALK OUT OF POCKET ABOUT STUFF YOU WERE MISINFORMED ABOUT. Locals who were trying to bring in food and water were turned away so had to use their own boats and jetskis to ferry in supplies on other beaches. This is fact. AGAIN.. YOU ARE NOT FROM HERE. IN ANY NATURAL DISASTER FOOD AND CLOTHES ARE THE FIRST THINGS THAT COME IN DROVES. I WAS A PART OF TWO DRIVES ON MAUI AND ONE WITH BRANDS IN CALIFORNIA. BY THE END OF DAY 2, EVEN LOCAL DROP OFF SITES WERE TURING AWAY FOOD AND CLOTHES. THERE WAS AN EXCESS OF IT. DONATING BABY FORMULA, PERISHABLE FOODS AND SHIT WITH NO REFRIGERATION WAS TURING DROP OFF SPOTS INTO DUMPS. IF YOU TRIED TO DRIVE INTO LAHAINA WITH SUCH GOODS – YOU WERE GONNA GET TURNED AWAY. DID YOU ALSO HEAR THAT THE LOCAL GOVT OPENED UP THE ROAD TO LAHAINA RESIDENTS FOR A HALF DAY DUE TO SOCIAL AND PUBLIC PRESSURE, AND PEOPLE WENT IN AND IMMEDIATELY STARTED LOOTING? SO THEY POLICE SHUT THE ROADS DOWN AFTER A FEW HOURS. WHAT DID YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT BLM PEOPLE “LOOTING”? WHAT OTHER “OUTSIDER” FAAACCTTS FROM THE CHEAPS SEATS DO YOU HAVE BRO?
THE CALIFORNIA DONATIONS WERE TOLD THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE 2-3 WEEKS BEFORE THE CARGO VESSELS EVEN LEFT LONG BEACH. IF YOU LIVED IN HAWAII YOU WOULD KNOW THAT KAHULUI CAN ONLY HANDLE SO MUCH CARGO SHIPS. IT’S A TINY AS HARBOR IN COMPARISON TO IT’S MAINLAND AND EVEN OAHU COUNTERPARTS. THIS IS NOT LONG BEACH CA WHERE A HUNDRED CARGOS CAN SIT OFFSHORE FOR A HUNDRED DAYS WITH ROTTING CARGO CONTAINERS. GET A CLUE BRO.
I do understand ‘authorities’ wanting to control the situation but the American people know this doesnt happen in a timely fashion and its disgusting that people trying to help fellow man are being blocked by red tape and we should all agree with that. THERE WERE ISSUES WITH THE ALLOWING OF SMALL CARAVANS OF PEOPLE BRINGING IN STUFF VIA JETSKIS AND SMALL BOATS. BUT THE PLACE WAS AND STILL IS A TOXIC WASTELAND. BRINGING IN FOOD AND MEDICINE IN A HOTZONE LIKE THAT COULD DO WORSE THAN GOOD. THE CITY & COUNTY OPENED IT UP IN THE THIRD DAY TO BASICALLY FREE-FOR-ALLS AND PUBLIC PRESSURE… IN WHICH WAS SHORTLY FOLLOWED UP BY LOOOOCALS TAKING TO SOCIAL MEDIA AGAAIIINNN TO SAY – WE DO NOT NEED MOST OF THIS SHIT ANYMORE SO STOP DROPPING OFF OR SENDING STUFF VIA MAIL. YOU WOULD KNOW THAT AGAIN IF YOU WERE NOT ON A COMPUTER THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY AND USING IG FOR YOUR “JOURNALISM” SOURCES.
One more thing. Biden said each household who was affected will receive a one off $700 payment. THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT YOU NOTED – A ONE OFFFF! MEANING THEY WERE GONNA DOLE THAT OUT ASAP. BUT THERE WOULD BE CONTINUED SUPPORT ON THE WAY. FUNNY THING IS WHEN BIDEN ANNOUNCED A $900 INITIAL COVID PAYMENT – ALL THE TRUMPERS SAID THE SAME THING “WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE”. FUNNY THING IS ALL THESE HYPOCRITES SOMEHOW MANAGED TO CASH THOSE CHECKS. AND THE ONES AFTER THAT… AND AFTER THAT… AND AFTER THAT… AND AFTER THAT…. WAKE UP BRO. YOU MAKE LIKE TRUMP WOULD’VE JUST SENT EVERYONE $100,000 CHECKS EACH. SPEAKING OF WHICH… THAT ORANGE CLOWN MADE A VIDEO “STATEMENT” ABOUT THE TRAGEDY ON MAUI AND AS USUAL GAVE HIS “THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS” TOO. FUNNY. I THOUGHT HE WAS A BILLIONAIRE TOO? APPARENTLY ACCORDING TO HIM, WORTH MUCH MORE THAN FORBES SAID HE WAS. SO ALL THE RIGHTIES CRITCIZING BEZO’S $100M DONATION OR OPRAH, SOMEHOW GAVE TRUMPF A PASS FOR NOT EVEN MENTIONING HIS CONTRIBUTION TO MAUI. INSTEAD HE USED HIS “POWERFUL LEADERSHIP SPEECH” TO TALK SHIT ABOUT HIS POLITICAL OPPONENT. HOW COME YOU’RE NOT BAGGING ON HIM FOR NOT OFFERING TO DO JACK SHIT BUT ARE BAGGING ON A $700 CHECK? WAKE UP BRO.
Educate yourself or claim these videos are deep fakes.
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This guy was there. You are/were not. The entire place is toxic.
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Tell you one thing once the rebuild gets going housing rental value will go through the roof , a change of culture will follow and only the wealthy will be able to afford to live there , workers will be transitional dependent on the tourist season.
You’ll own nothing and be happy.
class warfare is real in America. and it ain’t the proletariat waging it.
I’m pretty sure we know which generations suffer when the electric is out. F’n A! My first visits to Indonesia, and Mexico back in the day were like living in the 19th Century. But that was when it was THE BEST!!
America – privatize profits, socialize risks.
Thanks for the knowledge
We had really bad bushfires in 2011, government burn off’s ( during hot weather with howling winds..) that got away , dozens of houses and hundreds of hectares of bush destroyed . No deaths fortunately.
It was the under/ non insured that got reamed the hardest .
One mate has only now been able to afford to start rebuilding his home
Lots of opportunity for being fucked over by “new ideas and new developments ” for cunty business types
Heaps of shitty trades arrived to do insurance work ,prices went up, quality went down
Now with all the new regulations building a house or bringing existing ones up to code, costs a fortune
Many more negative impacts
As for the lookie lou,s that arrived in the weeks after …get fucked ya fucken vultures
Changed our town forever
Is that the town that has not one single town councillor that’s surfs , but belives the town needs constant surf events for the revenue , all at the expense of the local tax paying surfers how are getting squeezed out of the local surf breaks.